Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Originally posted by eyeballkid
If you are saying that an artist can not come up with a unique idea of their own without E.T. intervention, (let alone the idea of Post-Modern art itself, which kind of states that everything has already been done...)

That’s what I’m saying------and if you chose not to believe what I write why do you keep reading my stuff?

why not kill my self right now? What the Hell is the point to being human anyway?

Life is not a reward for everyone, for some it is self-imposed punishment

Should I join the army and die for my country for some unseen demoratic change, or should I continue working my crappy drug store clerk job just because I have a mindset like Van Gohg had?

It’s your choice, and what you do with those choices will determine if you return to the hellhole you created for yourself or move on to something more to your liking the next time around----assuming you don’t figure it out while you’re here now

He was not a happy guy, and he died in poverty. Clearly the E.T. didn't care about him,

ET is not going to fix your problems for you or the Van Gohgs of the world----they gave him a talent----and they gave the world the painting he produced

No one grabs you and shoves genius into your head----you have to go out and work for it---and you might get lucky and they will give you something----but happiness is elusive----that is one thing you have to get on your own

but the rich people that now own his art don't want anything to do with E.T.

Did these rich people tell you that?----and it doesn’t matter who owns the art----everyone gets to enjoy it----or not

ET provides opportunities what we do with those fleeting opportunities determines who we are

Hey kid,

Thanks for rendering your verdict on my speculative theories regarding UFO/ET in general. I'll tell you something about the human brain you may not be able to comprehend yet. The human brain does not fully mature until around the age of 30. Since you yourself label yourself a kid, demonstrate limited curiosity, and spout off with mucho false bravado, I contend that you are not old enough to make a mature decision about anything! Grow up and let's talk baby-cakes.

Listen, sleeper, I have read a lot of the posts on here and first off, I'd like to say thank you. Even if your story isn't true, it's still a good one, and I don't mind hearing it. I was a little skeptical of it at first because of the way you told it, leaving out critical bits of information such as "they were contacting you since childhood" in the beginning. But that aside, I still think your story is remarkable and may have some validity to it.

You should read about the "Holographic Paradigm". Again, I don't necessarily believe it's true, but it is interesting nontheless. The theory of Holographic Universe explains the telepathy of the aliens you encountered, and some of the possiblities for the larger interior of the craft(s) you entered. It also goes into a little bit about how humans might be able to adopt this ability/how they may appear to us different than if we looked at them in normal visual light wavelengths.

I do have one question, and this is the ONLY question I can ask that will provide me a little insight to your story.
Could you please do your absolute best to describe the feeling you get when you are around them?

You see, ever since I was a child (by child I mean from my earliest memories) I have felt that there is something beyond the thin veil of the world we see. I have been able to in my lifetime understand some of these things on a different level of thinking. I cannot describe what things I have come to know, but it's almost like having the Teacher's Edition to All That Ever Was and Will Be in the back of your mind, but you can't make out any of the text on the pages. If anyone is wondering, yes I have experimented with psychedellia, and that is interesting as well. Some of my psychedellic experiences have bordered on the unaffected sober ones, which is why I think people get the sense of "perfect unity" or "universal understanding" while they are high.

I don't mean to disredit myself with my experiences, but I believe that some of the things involved for humans to make the next evolutionary step have to do with some of things you described the aliens being capable of which is why I ask what it feels like to be around them. I have felt a strange sensation around certain people, and I would like to know if it is anyway related to what you were talking about. Thanks again for your story, I appreciate it.

Originally posted by nimo
I have felt a strange sensation around certain people, and I would like to know if it is anyway related to what you were talking about. Thanks again for your story, I appreciate it.

The feelings change over time, I don’t know if they fine tune themselves to us or how it works

In my early years they seemed normal to me and I don’t remember feeling any different around them verses around my family and friends

Once I became a teenager they dealt with me differently and fear came on me when they showed up---even when they were invisible

As an adult their powerful energy effected me and I knew it was coming from them, also if I was asleep when they came my brain lit up like a lightning storm and my eardrums buzzed----and then they made their appearance as if they came through a vortex and permeated into my room

Now I get a mild buzz whenever they show up----sometimes nothing-----and they emanate euphoria----and as I stated in an earlier post that feeling rubs of on me and lasts several days

If only they could bottle up that stuff!


PS

I’m not knocking or judging anyone about drug use but they continue to tell me its not the way to go

Their message isn’t for me, I have no desire for narcotics or any kind of stimulants, and I only take the occasional Advil and one glass of wine with my dinner

Thanks for your comments and I hope this helps

thanks sleeper, you made me feel a little better. but, still, the dream i had, they did things to me that caused me alot of pain. &, yes, i am very interested in ETs, my mother thinks im crazy for my ideas & thoughts, & i tell her that shes crazy not to believe.
thanks. you know, youre pretty kool. i hope you know that.

Originally posted by beefstoogh
thanks sleeper, you made me feel a little better. but, still, the dream i had, they did things to me that caused me alot of pain.

Perhaps it was a dream/nightmare

I have read reports of abductees that say they remember painful episodes while stretched out on a surgical type table, and I may have witnessed similar situations while on a ship but ET usually doesn’t let people remember the pain----those that have reported pain are people that have undergone regression and uncovered painful memories----some of those memories are fake memories

ET can do many things without inflicting pain, and they can create memories that are painful yet they are not real

my mother thinks im crazy for my ideas & thoughts, & i tell her that shes crazy not to believe.

Not everyone can comprehend the idea of extraterrestrial life and sometimes its best not to try and convince them----your mom is not crazy and I know you don’t meant it literally----she is normal----and the vast majority of normal people are not ready for the big picture----and that’s OK

Thank you for the complement!

Aliens don't have to destroy us, we can do a fine job of that ourselves. They can sit back and wait for it to happen without wasting their time, energy and resources. And if there is anything left of our planet to take when we are done with it, they can have it.

Hmm... Sleeper, I dunno how well you'll be able to answer this, as I'm not sure if it has a connection to ETs. Or if it does, how much.

I've noticed something about my dreams. I can "visit" a person if I feel concerned enough about them. And I'm not just saying that I'll dream as a mere reflection of my worries -- I'll see the person as they really are at that very moment. I'll see for myself that they're really camping and that they're quite healthy, or that they're at a party, or that something traumatic just happened to them and they're upset. And when I dream of these "visitations", it never registers that they might actually be happening; it's usually a week or two before I learn that the occurences were real. These dreams usually occur for me when I haven't heard from the particular person for a while, so there's no way for me to know what they're going to be up to.

You said way early in the thread that ETs are responsible for all Astral Projection. I dunno if Astro Projection would explain these visits, but it's the closest I've gotten, even though I know very little about the subject. Think they may have anything to do with this?

Originally posted by Siblin
You said way early in the thread that ETs are responsible for all Astral Projection. I dunno if Astro Projection would explain these visits, but it's the closest I've gotten, even though I know very little about the subject. Think they may have anything to do with this?

What you describe is Astral Projection as we humans understand it----and ET is behind it. Astral Projection is often disguised as dreams. You also have a well developed ESP ability that you may or may not be aware of

ESP is a great gift but it has its drawbacks too----those attuned with other souls can experience the depression and fear that others have----and confuse those feeling as their own

So if you’re feeling down for no good reason perhaps you are overly empathizing with someone

Yeah...yeah, that's happened. I don't know how much emotional stress I get from them (as you said, I could be confusing it with my own), but I do know that if they're upset enough, I feel physical pain. A friend of mine's father died, I didn't know about it, but beginning at that same time it happened and lasting all through the night, I had the worst headache of my life. Pain so bad I was actually crying, I thought I was having an aneurysm or something. When I later learned of the incident, I understood the pain and the father's death to be connected. See, with this particular person, I had always had similar episodes -- they'd be sick, I'd be upset for no reason, they'd get upset, and I would get sick. It's weird though...I have to actually concentrate on setting up this sort of connection with the person, and it works better with some people than with others. Like with my best friend, I don't have it; when she got in her car accident, I had no idea -- but I probably could if I concentrated on it. I'm just a little frightened about the pain thing; which person will have that sort of bond, and which won't?

Thank you for responding, Sleeper.

sleeper,
do you believe in god?
are you religious at all?
or have you stopped believing in god (if you ever have) after learning that ETs exist?
did your life change after learning the truth? & if so, how?

Hey Seeper, if I follow your idea, the coupon for a local pizza joint advertising that they sell a large 1-topping pizza w/cheese and one extra topping for only $4.99(take out only!) that I recieved in my mail today was the direct result of an alien agenda? Surely a human could not come up with such a rediculous idea as this? Forget the library of alexandria...

Bob Ross was controlled by E.T. to paint happy trees? That's pretty cool. Andy Wharhols' 'factory' was just aliens? Pretty neat! I'm sure Pollack wasn't just a drunk, but an abductee! Awesome! Rembrant OBVIOUSLY had no talent...except for the aliens...Was Briteny Spears also lead by E.T.? Maybe Stevie Wonder? Hasselbal cameras were engineered by German-alien hybrids? Hot Pockets originated from planet-x? The Flaming Lips are actually aliens? Kennedy was shot by aliens? Aliens changed the voted for Bush in Ohio? I'm smoking alien Parliments? We are in Iraq...because of aliens? Cuban missle crisis...nah...aliens. Strip club down the block...aliens!:coolthat was an alien I SWEAR!) Bum on the street...HELLO!!!...alien. Fire?... invented by aliens. (DUH!) My parents got divorced...aliens. I have scolious...hurts like all hell, but I forgive the aliens, they know what they are doing! When you stomp on a Goomba in super mario...guess what...it's an alien. My dad never talks to me because of the aliens...I'm pretty sure this thread was created by an alien, Hell I don't even remember typing this, ...must be an alien...

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Step right up! Step right up! It stegnthens it, it legnthens, it mows your lawn! You can live in it, it entertains visiting relatives, walks your dog, steals your car, finds you a job, brushes your teeth (never needs winding) no coupons needed! Batteries not included! Step right up! It wakes you up, no need for breakfast, you've already had it! It fills your tank, even votes for you! Even makes posts for you... What is this miracle product...It's ALIENS!!!! You ain't gotta do nuthin! Bad vocabulary? Know worry! the aliens will fix it for you!!!!

Most of this is from Tom Waits.
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But I might venture to guess that your father might not talk to you for a slightly different reason than 'aliens'...

You're not a windup toy... Obviously, you are still your own man eyeballkid.

Originally posted by eyeballkid
Step right up! Step right up! It stegnthens it, it legnthens, it mows your lawn! You can live in it, it entertains visiting relatives, walks your dog, steals your car, finds you a job, brushes your teeth (never needs winding) no coupons needed! Batteries not included! Step right up! It wakes you up, no need for breakfast, you've already had it! It fills your tank, even votes for you! Even makes posts for you... What is this miracle product...It's ALIENS!!!! You ain't gotta do nuthin! Bad vocabulary? Know worry! the aliens will fix it for you!!!!

Now you know----and what you do with that knowledge will determine what your next board game will be----but lay off the sugar dude----

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oh...so you do believe in god...
i dunno why, but i always thought you wouldnt.

im not very sure what it is that i actually believe in. i believe that ets are real, but sometimes when im worried or scared, i find myself, like, kind'a praying, but ive been telling ppl & myself that i dont believe in god...why do i do that?

& also, my mom reads tarot cards. i believe them. she actually read them to me last night, cause i asked her. i dunno why, but what ever she says is in the cards, like im gonna meet ppl, she says how many, you know...she says how im feeling, usually tells me deep feelings i only think about at night or when im alone, things i never tell anyone cause its no ones business, but she knows. she tells me. & shes always right.

oh...&, i asked for other ppls opinions on that ball of light i saw one day...this one person says that what i saw was a ball lightning, a phenomenon. could be that...makes more sense. but that doesnt stop me from believing they exist. cause they DO.

also, i believe that there are some lost souls around, especially in my room. in my old apartment, alot of ppl that would come into my house would get scared, because they would see ppl in the living room. i never have, nor in my room...but this one time, when i was trying to go to sleep, i felt hot air, then cold air, then hot...on the back of my neck, like someone was breathing on me or something. scary as hell, i was so afraid to look, i ended up falling asleep. freaky, huh? well, maybe not for you, sleeper. i think it is. also, ive never seen any spirits to confirm MY belief, but when im in my room, i dont feel safe at all. id feel the same going to central park at night, singing to myself, in a short skirt & tight shirt (which i totally dont wear, EVER...maybe in the summer?)...id feel exactly as safe in cp at night the same as id feel in my own house...in my own ROOM...is that crazy? i mean, home is supposed to be the one safest place...but...i mean, c'mon!

Overall I think this post is awesome, but I do disagree HEAVILY with Sleeper's mindset. First and foremost, this is not to bash Sleeper, because it is not in his control. I have seen so many references to "our own good" when dealing with ET's. This is the result of an implant on your soul before you were born, and is not in your control as a homosapien. Aliens are not our friends. They are just one more piece of the puzzle of the GF that I will personally destroy in the next 2,000 years.

It infuriates me, even though I try not to let it, that we as a whole look up to ET's to such a degree. They live longer than us, they have cooler gadgets, they know more of the picture than most, and experience more depth out of their life. However, they are our enemy. We are the slave race. We are the people living on an imprisoned planet. Hell... there are signs all over the system in eben saying "don't land on Earth" that furthers our seperation from truth. When you realize how big the conspiracy is of the galaxy it is jaw-dropping. The ET's are treating us like sheep, when in reality not too long ago some of us were all in a better position in their GF-structured nonsense than they, although a lot of us were galaxy scum (criminals, perv's, thieves, murderers, etc... some of us were even in high positions that rebelled or were suppressed for whatever reason). If the first point didn't sink in... think of a veterinarian office. Caged animals... all receiving treatment and pumped full of drugs and operated on by humans. We are being treated like animals. It should be US treating THEM. I hate ufo's, and their days are numbered because they made one crucial mistake... sending me to earth. Fukc the GF, and down eith their program.

Put simply, aliens are our enemy. We are imprisoned spiritually and implanted with horrible things that make us suffer. The worst part of this, is that 1% of the world knows what I am telling you. Stuff most spend their whole life to reach, and I am giving it to you for nothing- because I want help changing the galaxy- I need YOU.

Scientologists know the truth, the MJ-12 knows the truth, and the Illuminati and their branches know the truth. You need to as well.


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hey...do you think that that ball of light i saw was more than a ball lightning? cause this other person told me to read a list of things that happen to abductees, & sometimes abductees see the ball of light that i saw. but then, this guy or something, he says it was just a ball lightning.
...i need the TRUTH.
even if it means me getting a government job.