Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Sleeper, was the show X-files on target with their depiction on the ET-coverup?

are there MIB (men in black) covering all this stuff up?


[edit on 15-2-2006 by sanctum]

Originally posted by moderndayHanSolo

hey ironman, i bet those greys would kick your ass, but your brain is no more or no less than an ape brain i bet

Sleeper, was the show X-files on target with their depiction on the ET-coverup?

I may have watched two or three episodes of it when it first came out---not really familiar with it

are there MIB (men in black) covering all this stuff up?

So called UFO researchers are doing most of the covering up-----never met a men in black, however I did have military people-----in uniform keep tabs on me a few years back but they have since stopped

i understand the MIB being military

the UFO researchers doing the cover-ups has me more troubled, but it makes sense. a simple opposite-analogy would be how some firefighters actually are the fire-starters.

Sleeper, i dont wanna bother you, but, ...

it seems like most of these ET's are kinda wimpy guys with fancy space ships, controlled by superior beings still on a planet and not subject to the horrors of space travel.

Is it possible to communicate with people on the planets directly?

Are there planets totally inhabited by LION-people (beings with a human body and a humanlike-cat face)?

[edit on 15-2-2006 by moderndayHanSolo]

[edit on 15-2-2006 by moderndayHanSolo]

Sleeper,

Here on Earth you can take a knife and hurt someone very badly with it, maybe even killing them. Do ET's feel the same pain....physical pain? Or are they a different life form and aren't affected in the way we look at physical pain?

If one of us were put up against an ET would we have the upperhand in strength or would they? Or is strength a thing of the past for them?

Originally posted by Shadowshocker163
Sleeper,

Here on Earth you can take a knife and hurt someone very badly with it, maybe even killing them. Do ET's feel the same pain....physical pain? Or are they a different life form and aren't affected in the way we look at physical pain?

If one of us were put up against an ET would we have the upperhand in strength or would they? Or is strength a thing of the past for them?

one of the reasons we as humans dont encounter ET's is because they are so wimpy. they never leave the safety of the ship. when ya think about it, one of our champion boxers or pit-fighters, or etc. must seem like a mythical beast to them.

Originally posted by moderndayHanSolo
Sleeper, i dont wanna bother you, but, ...

it seems like most of these ET's are kinda wimpy guys with fancy space ships, controlled by superior beings still on a planet and not subject to the horrors of space travel.

It’s a job and somebody has to do it----they don’t travel in physical bodies so space travel is not horrible

Is it possible to communicate with people on the planets directly?

Not for humans but ET can communicate with anyone

Are there planets totally inhabited by LION-people (beings with a human body and a humanlike-cat face)?

And some with tiger’s and bear’s faces—oh my!

I suppose anything is possible

Originally posted by Shadowshocker163
Sleeper,

Here on Earth you can take a knife and hurt someone very badly with it, maybe even killing them. Do ET's feel the same pain....physical pain? Or are they a different life form and aren't affected in the way we look at physical pain?

Their bodies can be killed or damaged but not by humans, their physiology is not like ours----they don’t feel pain

If one of us were put up against an ET would we have the upperhand in strength or would they? Or is strength a thing of the past for them?

Like a lion tamer in a cage with lions----the lions could tear him apart but the tamer has the mental advantage----ET always has the advantage----has anyone ever beat the crap out of an ET and showed it to anyone?----out of the thousands of abductees it never happened even once

Originally posted by sleeperBill Clinton use one of those Arkansas crystals that he found on his ranch back when he was Governer----that crystal got him the oval office for eight years----now that’s power

This statement clearly violates the T&C. #9 knowingly posting false information.
I searched the internet, the Clinton Library, the Government Presidential Archives, and the National Archives(77 million documents. 75,000 artifacts, 1.8 million photographs, and 40 million e-mail messages) and the best I got was a Gemologist in the small town of Ida(one of only 2 places in the US with this superior type of quartz) Arkansas which is in the area of Arkansas where 95% of the quartz is found(and nowhere near Clintons ranch) who claims Clinton was in his store once.

Bill Clinton was elected governor of Arkansas in 1978, but lost a bid for reelection in 1980. He regained the governorship two years later and served until 1993.

Apparently the alledged crystal took a 2 year break. Not so powerful.
That's the thing about public officials everything they do is recorded. And I mean everything. I also found the exact date and time of the blue dress incident.
Which leads to my next point- military records. During a time of war which is when sleeper and I served everything is documented. When I was at Ft. Hood I had to sign out of the barracks to go get a coke. Things change a bit when your in theater but there is still documentation of patrols and guard posts and such.
Boing! it just hit me. Sleeper's anger at my wearing my service on my sleeve. Jealousy. I got to shoot at people and he didn't. Oh man I so missed it. Look I don't brag about that. Only that I served my country honorabley as did he.
Oh..............yeah uh.......now I get the Napolean thing.

edit: fix quote tag

[edit on 2/15/06 by longhaircowboy]

[quoteET always has the advantage----has anyone ever beat the crap out of an ET and showed it to anyone?----out of the thousands of abductees it never happened even once


i agree totally, i'd also like to think Travis Walton was one of those. Are you familar with his story that was made into a movie called Fire in the Sky??

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I had a job for about 10 years that required me to work at night in the country. So there were no lights to hide the night sky. I guarantee that if you can get 2 weeks clear night viewing (no clouds) then you will see something that will fall into the UFO category. It may not be up close but it will behave in a manner that satellites, planes and helicopters can not.
I would be surprised if it took 2 weeks!

Originally posted by dreadnaughtss
I had a job for about 10 years that required me to work at night in the country. So there were no lights to hide the night sky. I guarantee that if you can get 2 weeks clear night viewing (no clouds) then you will see something that will fall into the UFO category. It may not be up close but it will behave in a manner that satellites, planes and helicopters can not.
I would be surprised if it took 2 weeks!

you are right my friend,

when Im out in the country at camp lookin at the sky, im amazed at what I see.

the truth is out there

Might I remind those who feel they've had a sighting to report it to the relevant organizations so it is documented. I posted my most recent UFO sighting here and I had sent reports to MUFON, FUFOR, and a few others that track that sort of data.
I called the local press as well as the airports(radar returns) and the local military base(SOCOM). I spent a couple of hours canvassing the neighborhood looking for other witnesses.
I keep hard copies of all the reporting documents so if need be I can provide diagrams.
My recent sighting I actually stood in place for about ten minutes and made mental note of everything from wind speed and direction to noises and external stimuli.
If you think you've had an extraordinary experience document as much as possible. Write it down. Make a diagram of the movement of any visible phenomena.
I get people calling me asking what to do and the first thing I say is "write it down in your own words" then if possible I visit the site and write my own impression of the events and I fill out a report and send it to the relevant Org.
No messianic clap trap just the cold hard facts.

and how will reporting those sightings do anything

UFO sightings have been recorded/reported for thousands of years.

they will be seen when they want to be seen.

I saw a bigfoot-like creature at camp years ago. I wont go into any more detail, but I would never ever come forward with information that the weak minded will use against me. I only know it as the "white thing".



[edit on 16-2-2006 by moderndayHanSolo]

It makes it an event that is-
verifiable
substantive
evidentiary
documented

And something that will stand up to scrutiny.
It provides a record.......something that anyone can relate to.

Using my most recent sighting as an example.
If I just went about telling people what saw they would probably laugh me right out of the room. But since I documented the entire event it lends it more credibilty.

I agree. Why report it? Any government agency interested would already have more evidence than they know how to hide.

I'll cite one example: gun cameras on fighter aircraft. There are many reports of engagement and confiscated materials. I'm fairly certain that many others have not broken sworn oaths to keep these things confidential.

How is an eyewitness account going to compare to that kind of detailed footage?

Assuming that any of us is willing to consider a ufo sighting to be an intelligently controlled extraterrestrial craft, why assume that these craft only just arrived? Again I agree, it's more probable that this has been happening for a long time. Further, there are historical and cultural records to support that idea as cited here and elsewhere.

I never did trust Carl Sagan. I suppose he did what he felt he had to do. It just seems borderline criminal to discredit people and ideas you know have merit.

I'm also not sure that any of us, including sleeper, are ever going to bear witness to the big picture. I don't think we were meant to. I think even sleeper has admitted as much when he says (paraphrasing) that ET decide how much we know/learn/advance etc.

Still, some things said in this thread do resonate - enough to draw me out. I had never felt compelled to before. This despite a personal history with the subject.

I do feel better for having shared a little without being ridiculed. Ultimately, this is the only real benefit I see to reporting sightings to any official agency. They are never going to pressure any government official to say more than they want to say. The public has been conditioned to accept no less as proof.

[edit on 16-2-2006 by blue grass]

I didn't say report it to government agencies. I said report it to the appropriate Ufo Orgs.
The more documentation the better.

has anyone ever beat the crap out of an ET and showed it to anyone?----out of the thousands of abductees it never happened even once

And you know this because you've talked to all the abductees? Read all the accounts available to the public?
Oh wait you have secret knowledge that ET has never encountered hostile Earthlings.
And yet in 1947 a radar unit in New Mexico brought down a craft that had traveled light years without any problems.

4.3 light years away

according to you.
But wait......when someone else caught that

no galaxy is 4.3 light years away, our own galaxy is about 100,000 light years across.

there was a simple explanation

Well here on planet earth that's called a typo

. That's either a rather blaise attitude on the part of the ETs or a HUGE miss on your part. Quite a typo.
Reminder(again): the title of this thread does not include the words I think or I believe. It's quite straightforward.
Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face
That's a very specific claim.
And so far lacking any specific proof.
And no, the messianic ramblings of someone with a Napolean Complex are not proof.

Originally posted by sleeperI read the New Testament inside and out, and all most became a preacher---my problem I didn't know when to stop researching. Not only the whole bible but anything I could get my hands on about Christianity, Judaism and the Roman Empire. I even wrote two books about Christianity and the history of the Jews after the Romans.

I have drank at the well of emptiness and left thirsty.

[edit on 2/16/06 by longhaircowboy]

I am truly amazed at how long this thread has lasted without any solid and unquestionable proof although I have thoroughly enjoyed the child like arguing among certain members. As soon as I read the initial thread I knew that any proof would never be revealed and if anything it was only meant to ignite the quantities of responses that it has. Regardless, I still enjoy reading all the non-sensical babble that it has created. I look forward to the next comment that will no doubt cause many more responses for me and others to enjoy reading.

[edit on 16-2-2006 by necromancer9]

Originally posted by longhaircowboy
It makes it an event that is-
verifiable
substantive
evidentiary
documented

And something that will stand up to scrutiny.
It provides a record.......something that anyone can relate to.

Using my most recent sighting as an example.
If I just went about telling people what saw they would probably laugh me right out of the room. But since I documented the entire event it lends it more credibilty.

It lends no more credibility than having someone state what they have witnessed. It still originates from the same source. And infact if you take what is written on a thread such as this it would be just as factual as writing it down on paper. There is no difference in the level of credibility whatsoever.

Did you start a thread on your sighting as I would like to read it but cannot find it anywhere. Could you perhaps post a link to it? I assume you started it some time ago.

WOW! I cant believe this has lasted 46 pages. I enjoyed the read for the first 15 pages, but being at work, I couldnt really continue. I actually believe Sleeper, as crazy as it sounds, it just makes sense. You have to think, in 1900 there was NO technology what so ever, but in 2000, only 100 years later we are where were at today. No-one questions that? From 1900 back to the beginning of time there was absolutely no technology, but all of a sudden within 100 years we became what we are now. And everyone must know, that if Aliens came face to face with mankind one day, the world would destory itself, what would be the cause? Religion, and Fear of the unknown.