President BIDEN Promises to Stop Donald Trump from Being President Again in 2025.

originally posted by: skeptical808
a reply to: carewemust

I'm old enough to remember when people judged politicians by their stance on issues. Now it seems to be all about personal attacks. Quite frankly, if you are influenced at all by personal attacks against any politician, R, D, or otherwise, you have serious problems with lack of intellect and common decency.

Your post reminds me of what "late night" entertainer JOHNNY CARSON said about comedians who used politics for their joke materials. He said they didn't need brains or creativity, because the jokes are so easy.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: skeptical808
a reply to: carewemust

I'm old enough to remember when people judged politicians by their stance on issues. Now it seems to be all about personal attacks. Quite frankly, if you are influenced at all by personal attacks against any politician, R, D, or otherwise, you have serious problems with lack of intellect and common decency.

Your post reminds me of what "late night" entertainer JOHNNY CARSON said about comedians who used politics for their joke materials. He said they didn't need brains or creativity, because the jokes are so easy.

I'm old enough to remember Johnny Carson too.

a reply to: skeptical808

So you're saying

Umm, no. "Remain in Mexico" applies only to those seeking legal entry through the asylum process. People who cross illegally don't follow the law by definition.

People attempting to cross the border illegally never claim asylum?

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: skeptical808

So you're saying

Umm, no. "Remain in Mexico" applies only to those seeking legal entry through the asylum process. People who cross illegally don't follow the law by definition.

People attempting to cross the border illegally never claim asylum?

Well, no, I'm not saying that. But my understanding is that most know that if they come in illegally they can't request asylum. The only way to request asylum in most cases is to do so at a port of entry. I'm sure there are some who don't know that, come in illegally, then ask for asylum. But they will be denied and deported in most cases.

I'm not saying "Remain in Mexico" is bad. My point was only that it does not apply to the vast majority of illegal entrants. So claiming it had a big impact on illegal immigration does not make sense.

a reply to: carewemust

So very sick of him.

I think Trump is an unsavory antichrist that has this country duped to levels beyond Keyser Soze. I'm so sick of his perpetual victim cards landing, and elevating him to the level of a quasi-religious savior.

And it has nothing to do with his politics, but his total lack of the honorable character to hold that title and position. I dislike victims. And all he does is promote his perpetual victim persona. Always a conspiracy. Always conspiring against him. Always a platform to use his victimhood to get as many as possible to share his delusion. Just admit you we're wrong, FFS.

I oppose him for intuitive reasons that cannot be bought over by any holy war narrative. This isn't politics anymore. This is the deliberate use of religious fear to prop up a person whose version of character means he'll stab a friend with a broken pool cue after he doesn't do something needed.

He subsequently turns any GOP member that grows wise to him (or doesnt do what they're told), like Pence, McConnell, Romney, and Bush into traitors of their own country, simply for not cosigning his delusion. Party affiliation doesn't matter. He will just fracture the GOP into Zealots and Traitors.

In my mind, it's not really a conspiracy beyond him being so shady and self-righteous it makes every three letter agency *cough FBI* want to get him. Just for being the vampire type person he is. And then turn into a slightly more deranged Captain Ahab every time he gets away.

It's an absolute, mind you. There is no room to question that he is the chosen white knight sent to fight for good against the evil that plagues this land. Like electing a total sociopath Jesus.

Ron may be considered a retaliatory, power leveraging jackass as well, but he doesn't smell like a dirty rat. He doesn't have that shady dishonorable snitch-a-bitch air surrounding him. DeSantis will get the kids to be left alone just fine, and allocate money back where Republicans want it. Also not under any noteworthy federal probes.

Trump feels like an opportunist taking advantage of the fruity nature of American culture to suddenly not be a New York democrat anymore. Pretending to care to become an unquestioned king. If I was a true believer of Christian eschatology, I'd consider him "The False Prophet".

And it really just is a dislike of him personally, and utter disbelief how the hell the half of Zaphod Beeblebrox cut out of the personality is Galactic President. Was it a "Best Internet Meme" contest people thought they were voting for?

And, No, I don't want Joe another 4 years either. Please no.

I want someone different on each ticket.

Rant complete.

originally posted by: skeptical808

originally posted by: RazorV66
Were you been the last 8 years of the Liberals personal attacks on Trump?

Trump’s policies help this country, you would have to be a fool not to see it.
Biden’s policies haven’t done anything for this country.
In fact, he has done nothing his entire 50 years in office to help this country.

I post that personal attacks are meaningless and only reveal lack of character and intelligence of the attacker. You call me a fool. Thanks for helping make my point.

Actually you called yourself one by taking that response as directed at you.
Trumps tax policy and drilling helped the country until the plandemic hit.

a reply to: skeptical808

I'm not saying "Remain in Mexico" is bad. My point was only that it does not apply to the vast majority of illegal entrants. So claiming it had a big impact on illegal immigration does not make sense.

Fair enough

a reply to: carewemust


Just one question to all of you: if this were true, particularly if this were said at a press conference, why wasn't a big deal made of this back on 11/9/22 or within the week? Why not on Fox? Why not Tucker Carlson? Why not Newsmax, and why no where else in the alt-right or right-wing media back then? I'll tell you why: nobody at the time thought it was a particularly outlandish thing to say. So why is it being brought up now? Because of the 37 indictments in the document case. The MAGA crowd is desperate, so its members are throwing at the wall every bit of crap they can come up with, hoping something will stick.

I did a google search on the quoted statement for the time period 11/9/22 to 1/10/23 and nothing showed up besides one tweet that was actually from June 14 of this year.

Then I looked at the Twitter source of the OP, and clicked on the link to the White House page link given there, which goes to whitehouse.gov and a transcript of the press conference. Here is what it actually reads as (and I give the context of the question asked as well):

Q So the entire genesis of that G7 conversation was tied to your predecessor, who is about to launch another campaign. So how do you reassure them, if that is the reason for their questioning, that the former President will not return or that his political movement, which is still very strong, will not —

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yeah? (Laughs.)

Q — once again take power in the United States?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

Link

So, first of all, the quote from the tweet is:

“I’m making sure [Trump], under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.”

The quote itself is made up, taking some of what Biden said, and putting Trump's name into it, when it was never spoken. One could call this a paraphrasing, albeit an out of context one, of how Biden answered the question, but it is not an honest quote. But then the OP in this thread makes it even more of an outright lie by taking out the brackets surrounding "Trump" in the quote. No surprise there, as the poster still has an outright false quote by James Clapper in the member's signature.

But what are legitimate efforts under the Constitution that would preclude Trump from becoming president again? Well, even being a felon or in prison doesn't preclude a person from being elected president, so the only constitutional matter barring a person who meets the qualifications of running for president from becoming president is: losing the election.

Did Biden say, he would do whatever was in his power from letting Trump become president again? No. Rather he said, "I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again." That's a very circumscribed set of possible ways to prevent him from becoming president again, i.e. making sure he is defeated if he runs for president again.

But carry on, frothing at the mouth about this big ol' nothing burger. This just shows that you MAGA nuts with TDSS will accept anything as proof that your political boogeyman has said some terrible thing that reinforces your view of him, when if you did any investigation to find the actual quote, and gave it 30 seconds of critical thinking, there would be nothing to the claim.

I'm not saying "Remain in Mexico" is bad. My point was only that it does not apply to the vast majority of illegal entrants. So claiming it had a big impact on illegal immigration does not make sense.

a reply to: skeptical808

Remain in Mexico coupled with assistance and cooperation from the Mexican military was a huge success. Trump took securing our southern border seriously and had to fight like hell to get the wall built, almost completed until they stole the election. Trump was creating a merit based system circumventing the scam of catch and release. To not recognize the impact that the "stay in Mexico" policy had is disingenous at best.

originally posted by: carewemust
Food for thought. And a sign of what's coming our way for 2024?

DEMOCRATS do not hesitate to arrest their chief political opponent Donald Trump...multiple times.

REPUBLICANS are afraid to even slap a Traitor to America named Adam Schiff, on the wrist.

How many times have I told you republicans aren’t your friends, care?

a reply to: carewemust

The phrasing doesn’t seem like he’s planning to simply win the election to keep him out of office.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
... until they stole the election.

The election was not stolen. Anyone who believes that is, well, I won't get offensive but anything they have to say should be disregarded as ill-informed. You undermine your credibility with that kind of unsuppported statement.

originally posted by: yuppa
Actually you called yourself one by taking that response as directed at you.

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Bill the bard.

a reply to: skeptical808

"You know when you answer a question that the other person didn't expect you to answer, and you do it surprisingly honestly? That just happened."Richard Ashendale.

^_^

a reply to: carewemust
In honesty, trump should not be allow to run. He would sell out our country. He cares for no one but himself. Only people not blinded by the light can see that. Just a opinion.

originally posted by: skeptical808

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
... until they stole the election.

The election was not stolen. Anyone who believes that is, well, I won't get offensive but anything they have to say should be disregarded as ill-informed. You undermine your credibility with that kind of unsuppported statement.

The supression of the Hunter laptop alone was enough to have stolen the election. When you account for the week, where the swing states stopped counting votes, spiked Biden vote tallies, then had Biden barely win 4 of 5. There has been over 5 thousand avadavits of election fraud, and not a single court would hear any evidence citing jurisdiction. The news reports are lies and if you are trusting your morning or nightly news, then sadly you are livivg in a land of make belief. Thrre is zero chance that plagerist would ever win a fair election, not in 2020 and not in 2024. By the way Joe Biden, who is practically unrecognizable following his plastic surgert oddly nobody mentions that, Joe Biden recieved 1% of democrat primary votes in 2008. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are frauds and anybody who believes they were fairly elected is an imbocile.

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
The supression of the Hunter laptop alone was enough to have stolen the election. When you account for the week, where the swing states stopped counting votes, spiked Biden vote tallies, then had Biden barely win 4 of 5. There has been over 5 thousand avadavits of election fraud, and not a single court would hear any evidence citing jurisdiction. The news reports are lies and if you are trusting your morning or nightly news, then sadly you are livivg in a land of make belief. Thrre is zero chance that plagerist would ever win a fair election, not in 2020 and not in 2024.

Wait. Was Hunter Biden running? Or was he just a private citizen whose personal information was stolen? How is that relevant to any election?

And you need to check your facts. The courts have rejected every frivolous claim about election fraud not because of jurisdiction. Generally it was for lack of evidence.

And what is a plagerist?

I'm curious what your news sources are.

Wait. Was Hunter Biden running?
a reply to: skeptical808

Hunter Bidens laptop contains evidence of treason by Joe Biden. Stop watching CBS morning news. You are so misinformed it is sad.

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.

laptop and personal information of Hunter Biden was not stolen

[url=https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-s-biggest-problem-think-one-word-plagiarism/ar-AA16rcIk]ignorance is bliss

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Wait. Was Hunter Biden running?
a reply to: skeptical808

Hunter Bidens laptop contains evidence of treason by Joe Biden. Stop watching CBS morning news. You are so inimformed it is sad.

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.

laptop and personal information of Hunter Biden was not stolen

Wow, how's the koolaid?

originally posted by: skeptical808

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Wait. Was Hunter Biden running?
a reply to: skeptical808

Hunter Bidens laptop contains evidence of treason by Joe Biden. Stop watching CBS morning news. You are so inimformed it is sad.

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.

laptop and personal information of Hunter Biden was not stolen

Wow, how's the koolaid?

They just had a senate hearing confirming this. Wake up dude.Biden the treasonous


plagerist Biden