The Arctic Sea ice may completely melt by the 2030s, scientists warn NYT

a reply to: Freeborn

I'm used to watch people compartmentalize their favorite climate-change issues in order to keep up with this rhetoric, but you just did gloss over a related climate change issue in order to do so. Right?

In other words, are we supposed to pretend the global temperature is rising at the poles, and only at the poles?

Not my drawing but it pretty much sums things up

a reply to: Insurrectile

I really think you are reading far too much into what I posted.

I responded to a specific query:

What could be an issue is the huge volume of fresh water screwing up massive planet wide ocean river things...

I gave one possible scenario; that was it.
No agenda, no pre-conceived narrative I'm trying to push.

I've only very rarely voiced any of my personal opinions about climate change here on ATS and the last time was a long, long time ago.

You seem to be assuming an awful lot and appear to be argumentative for no other reason than just to argue.

a reply to: Freeborn

No agenda, no pre-conceived narrative I'm trying to push.

We certainly disagree on that part, old friend.

You seem to be assuming an awful lot and appear to be argumentative for no other reason than just to argue.

You already see my agenda shining through the few post you see, the rest would be up to the readers. Is this really going to be one of "those" conversations now?

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: vNex92

Meanwhile its been almost 20° F cooler than average in las vegas...one of the US's hottest places to live...even worse so because of how built up it is. Concrete and asphalt hold/radiate a lot of heat...tis why we only cool off 5-10° F typically at night anywhere deep in the city. But yea...globo wobo all day. Climate is a cycle...our planet goes through cycles of many kinds...in fact we are actually kind of rare on that we rotate on a slant as opposed to a flat 90° angle of rotation compared to the sun and the rest of the planets...kinda how we get 4 seasons instead of night and day seasons like most rocks ourlt there. But yea...these geniuses got it pegged...globo wobo all day!

Rare to see the significance of that addressed by globalists or climate scientists. Humans believe they know so much. ha ha

It's a well known and recognised problem for over 200 years commonly known as the 'urban heat island effect' in science - there's also the Albedo effect measuring a materials ablity to reflect sunlight that comes into play as sea ice reflects the vast majority of heat/light and sea water absorbs it causing runaway melting.

a reply to: vNex92

I like this thread, good on you my friend. This is a much more open discussion than I've seen on your other threads. Haven't read the whole article yet.

lmfao

that idi0t gretta tunderberg said world is over in a few years.
she deeleted that tweeet, now claims she never p0sted it.

there was a sign in yosetime, i think, that said it would be flooded by 2o20 or something like that.
they removed the sign.

the r0thschilds figured out, that klimate change was another way to steal m0ney, instead of waar.
there are videos of the r0thschilds stating it in the 70s, their pr0t0cols to do this, you can go watch it yourself.

the villlains who own the world, are doing everything they can to destr0y our way of lives, our libberty, our freeedoms, etc.

So is this the kids or grandkids of the the ones that said it would be gone by 2000???

a reply to: Insurrectile

FFS, the ONLY point I was trying to make is that its believed that if too much of the Arctic ice-cap melts the fresh water could stop The Gulf Stream which would then most likely affect the climate both sides of The North Atlantic.

That's it.
No comment on the cause of the ice-cap's melting or global climate change.

I'll leave that for other's to discuss.

To be perfectly honest, quite ironically, I'm too hot to be bothered to discuss anything at present.....unusually warm here in North East England.

a reply to: Freeborn

28C here in darkest Wiltshire but that's normal.

Soon be time for the traditional hosepipe ban.

The Guardian, meanwhile, reports that 90% of the melting in the Arctic is caused by human-made climate change and that preparations are necessary for increasing temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere in the following decades.

from the link in the OP.

There is so much wrong with this sentence.

90%? Show the math. And explain how we "know" that humans are the cause of this.
And what is the appropriate path to control the temperatures in the northern hemisphere?

This is alarmist propaganda. The damn fact checkers and truth patrols should deal with statements such as this, but they won't.

But only by reducing the lifestyle of the American middle class while letting big polluters like china and India continue business as usual can we save Gaia.

a reply to: network dude

Actually we are coming out of a mini Ice age heading for a warming period. They know this but are trying to blame it on global warming by man.

a reply to: Freeborn

Too hot for me mate.
Can't even be arsed to go and sit in a beer garden.

Just had a smoke outside in the garden and an iced water.

WTF has happened to me?

a reply to: Freeborn

My advice?

Go to fridge. Get cold beer. Sit in garden, drink smoke and repeat.

Often.

a reply to: vNex92

Oh this again... Well let it melt, we'll see just how much is melted by the time the 2030's get here. Bet there's more then than there is now.

a reply to: Insurrectile

Remember that video on Ted Talks with Bill Gates debating about "Carbon emissions" in which i suppose rich elitists like Gates are trying to say that we waste to much of Earth's resources.

Its interesting in the article by NYT they blame northern hemisphere for pollution and global warming.



While ignoring the trash in the ocean in the other countries that arent in the "northern hemisphere"

a reply to: Chuckles55

You wont be seeing these of headlines on NYT when it comes to climate debate.
Somehow NYT decides to blame northern hemisphere "North America/South America"

While ignoring other countries that have many issues including high population.

Five African countries among top 20 highest contributors to plastic marine debris in the world

a reply to: network dude

I dont want just the math show us the whole data and but satellite data from years dating back to the 80s.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Insurrectile

FFS, the ONLY point I was trying to make is that its believed that if too much of the Arctic ice-cap melts the fresh water could stop The Gulf Stream which would then most likely affect the climate both sides of The North Atlantic.

That's it.
No comment on the cause of the ice-cap's melting or global climate change.

I'll leave that for other's to discuss.

To be perfectly honest, quite ironically, I'm too hot to be bothered to discuss anything at present.....unusually warm here in North East England.

Come on FB just admit you are actually the climatologist that Dennis Quaid played in the movie The Day After Tomorrow. Either that or Al Gore.

We just need to be appreciative that we have so many posters now that can read a few sentences and automatically know the precise details of our thoughts and our motivations.

It really is quite extraordinary most of these new and enlightened posters/mystics can perceive these visions telepathically across thousands of kilometers or miles all while thier craniums have been stuck firmly up thier bums since birth.