Redacted Coverage of Recent Shocking Dr. Greer UFO Disclosure

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Indeed. Regardless of Greer's secondary motivations, he clearly does care about getting the truth out, and his view of the whole situation has clearly evolved in the 20 years since his last DC Press Club disclosure event. He is now talking about this mainly being all about human-led research & development of craft which mirror the electrogravitics propulsion technologies which, presumably, the extra-dimensional (parallel society) 'aliens' (fallen angels?) had first. He is on point with his information about the suppression of free energy machines too, that's a very real phenomenon, and light must be shed on the subject if the human race is to recover from eternal warafare/disaster capitalism, crappy energy 'solutions', and despicable poverty which the secrecy agenda has directly caused over the past eighty years.

I like much of what Dr. Greer says here myself. My OP remarks were based on my thoughts of him previously before watching the full conference video. Although I still have some doubts, he does seem to care. I find the witnesses credible.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

He is fighting against the Deep State for sure and seems to surround himself with credible witnesses.

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: Klassified

Fair enough. But if you cared to listen in, you'd learn that it's primarily about exposing the Deep State, including their human trafficking operations and world domination plans. In hindsight, I wish I explained that in the title and OP.

Planning to do that, just haven't had the time yet. Watched his last one too.

Many years ago I read the playbook for what's happening today. Here's just one example:

My name is Carol Rosin. I am an educator who became the first woman corporate manager of an Aerospace Company, Fairchild Industries.

When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr Wernher Von Braun. We first met in early 1974. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself.
What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics That was how we identify an enemy. The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy.

Check.

Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.
The next enemy was asteroids. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.

Yup.

And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card. "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."

Nearly 50 years ago things we're seeing today were 'predicted'? Planned? Coincidence? I guess it's all in what one wants to believe, but none of these 'disclosures' seem to be anything new.

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originally posted by: ARM1986
Truly advanced aliens would be dangerous to us only in the sense that we would be pretty much pointless to them. Like ants or other bugs. Maybe a passing curiosity but little more. I’m not even certain that such aliens would even bother with visiting. Maybe only as a cataloguing exercise. By the point of such advancement they would pretty much be able to synthesise their own raw materials.

The aliens we are likely an attraction for are either not true aliens at all or are from far nearer than we think. They may also not be THAT far in advance of us. A 1000 years, a few thousand. They might not necessarily be benevolent. All depends. Either way a race 100 years more advances than ours could likely wipe us out in short order. So I imagine, if they wanted to, they would have.

Greer might be right. They might all be benevolent or at least neutral.

parasite doesn't kill its host.

a reply to: Klassified

Cool.

a reply to: nugget1

I remember her warnings too. She was more or less correct.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

The problem with Greer is related to the very last question of the conference. The question was cut from the D2.0 recording from the proceeding.

Greer make a proposition of benevolence. He maintains a subset of the military industrial complex is conducting abductions and implantation of the population. He dismisses hostile intentions of the EBEs. He states he has no evidence to the contrary.

This is dangerous. I am sure he does not want to muddy the waters with a mixed message about intentions, but the reality is much more complicated.

Note the 1954 Greada Treaty and the consequences.

This is fact from my work on the topic:

1. Anthropomorphism is dangerous. I have seen anatomy, physiology, and assays of three differing species. I but do not know intentions. I can not tell what a species , whether engineered or naturally evolved intent is from physicality. We think like humans and think we know how ETs thinks.

My opinion:

Greer is dangerous because he espouses this singular believe in benevolence of the EBEs

Greer is either fallible to anthropomorphism or he has some other intention..

This is my opinion:

2. There has been documented history of abduction. Turner, Mack, Dr David Jacobs, etc. I have talked to abductees (the PC term is experiencers now). How many on ATS have actually talked to or are abductees? Do the skeptics think this is all psychosis?

We all know the theories and have beliefs on the thousands of cases. What are the intentions of the abductions? Is genetic engineering of a free will being benevolent? How about placing implants in a free will being benevolent? Is it kidnapping? What if the proposition of the Orionlines is correct?

Greer is either ignorant of the fact or he is deceptive.

My opinion:

We live in a free will Universe. There are differing intentions among species and within species. Take cloned lifeforms and AI into account and the intentions are going to range from benevolent to hostile/hegemonic. Greer makes a proposition that is they were hostile, we would already be dead.

There is strong reason to believe we are protected by some but threatened by others. Why wouldn't we believe otherwise? If the MilLabs are conducting experiments and abductions, the question is why such evil in the land of the free and the home of the brave? What is controlling the soul of the leadership?

Conclusion:

I think Greer one of the most important men in the Country. I respect him highly. But I am disturbed he is an absolutist on this matter of intentions. He does not know all the answers to these questions and needs to be less resolute and more circumspect. If he knows there is conflict to his proposition and is being deceptive, then he is truly a danger to a real threat to humanity.

The various hypothesis' needs to be explored further.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Exactly. Furthermore, we are primitive in thinking. The ultimate way to conquer is to never let the conquered know they are subjugated.

This being said, I think Haim Eshed was telling the truth and that the Crabwood Disc was both a message of hope and a warning.

I adhere to the "Allies of Humanity" philosophy constituting the reality of the situation. There are some species we don't want to f with and some within the State understand this.

Nevertheless, Greer is essentially correct about the injustices committed against the population on behalf of the energy concerns and MI complex. I also believe a period of awaking has started.

Greer looks and acts a bit too much like a member of the military plus his family ties to Learjet aerospace is too much to overlook. The “if it looks like a duck” saying comes to mind. a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

originally posted by: play4keeps
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

The problem with Greer is related to the very last question of the conference. The question was cut from the D2.0 recording from the proceeding.

Greer make a proposition of benevolence. He maintains a subset of the military industrial complex is conducting abductions and implantation of the population. He dismisses hostile intentions of the EBEs. He states he has no evidence to the contrary.

This is dangerous. I am sure he does not want to muddy the waters with a mixed message about intentions, but the reality is much more complicated.

Note the 1954 Greada Treaty and the consequences.

This is fact from my work on the topic:

1. Anthropomorphism is dangerous. I have seen anatomy, physiology, and assays of three differing species. I but do not know intentions. I can not tell what a species , whether engineered or naturally evolved intent is from physicality. We think like humans and think we know how ETs thinks.

My opinion:

Greer is dangerous because he espouses this singular believe in benevolence of the EBEs

Greer is either fallible to anthropomorphism or he has some other intention..

This is my opinion:

2. There has been documented history of abduction. Turner, Mack, Dr David Jacobs, etc. I have talked to abductees (the PC term is experiencers now). How many on ATS have actually talked to or are abductees? Do the skeptics think this is all psychosis?

We all know the theories and have beliefs on the thousands of cases. What are the intentions of the abductions? Is genetic engineering of a free will being benevolent? How about placing implants in a free will being benevolent? Is it kidnapping? What if the proposition of the Orionlines is correct?

Greer is either ignorant of the fact or he is deceptive.

My opinion:

We live in a free will Universe. There are differing intentions among species and within species. Take cloned lifeforms and AI into account and the intentions are going to range from benevolent to hostile/hegemonic. Greer makes a proposition that is they were hostile, we would already be dead.

There is strong reason to believe we are protected by some but threatened by others. Why wouldn't we believe otherwise? If the MilLabs are conducting experiments and abductions, the question is why such evil in the land of the free and the home of the brave? What is controlling the soul of the leadership?

Conclusion:

I think Greer one of the most important men in the Country. I respect him highly. But I am disturbed he is an absolutist on this matter of intentions. He does not know all the answers to these questions and needs to be less resolute and more circumspect. If he knows there is conflict to his proposition and is being deceptive, then he is truly a danger to a real threat to humanity.

The various hypothesis' needs to be explored further.

Agreed

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

This Clergy is Greer for all intents and purposes…. and his attitude of Benevolence …..

(He even looks like Greer a little, just imagine him wearing glasses)

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As soon as I saw their alien skeleton, I suspected it was just a collage of human parts chosen specifically due to a genetic disease. You could literally cut and adhere the parts using exclusively biological materials.
I have a formal education in electrical/electronics engineering which is a lame way of saying particle physics and quantum mechanics.
Whenever any of these people trophy Bob Lazar, I know they are frauds or naive and inherently stupid.
Lazar cannot even sketch basic circuit schematics that we all learn in the first 6 months. He chased a Mexican reporter away that challenged him.

There's a few other people that once I see they're attached, I know it's likely everyone in that media is corrupt. They regularly reference a man ignorant people trust and believe, but his website is hysterical from this scientist's POV. Argon generators, rocket go-karts that they sold plans and kits for since A Boy's Life produced by the Boy Scouts; nearly twice as long as I have been alive.
Then, he added photos of him with a soldering iron assembling nonsensical junk after I hammered him for a few years online in every piece of media connected to him. One day, a Hollywood actor messaged and challenged me. His evidence?
Bob built a rocket go-kart as a kid, lmfao
Yeah and countless others have too that went off to get degrees in science whereas he factually did not. He was a photo technician during the time he claims to be at MIT, and has no accredited diplomas from any college on earth!

He literally printed fake degrees we have been able to download online for decades.

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Arbitrageur

I did a Google search on your three pictures and the Hong Kong video. [snipped]

Something got snipped out of your reply, but images 2 and 3 were actually screen captures from Greer's own video since I posted them in an ATS thread discussing that video, so I doubt you'd find much searching screen captures from a video. These images were posted in the ATS HOAX thread on Greer (one of them, anyway):


From this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


From this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am not about to write Greer off. He also works with Dr. Garry Nolan of Stanford University. I will write you off. Bye

Garry Nolan

You asked for credibility information about Greer. I didn't say anything about Garry Nolan. But you seem tho think this is about my opinion versus your opinion when you say you will write me off, I think you are missing the point. It's not just me, it's widely understood that Greer has huge credibility issues based on the example photos above and many other points, and I didn't even get into his free energy hoax claims yet.

But what you may be overlooking when you say you'll write me off, is it's not about me. The threads about Greer's fake aliens were moved to the HOAX forum on ATS meaning Greer is defintely a hoaxer as determined by the owners of ATS. So, instead of writing me off, maybe take it up with the owners of ATS and get Greer's threads moved out of the HOAX forum if he's not a hoaxer:

Steve Greer (CSETI) Photograph ET Being (HOAX!)

By the way, this doesn't say anything about the witnesses in Greer's "Disclosure Project" 1.0, some of them were completely credible witnesses describing interesting experiences, and I have nothing bad to say about the credible witnesses, except it's unfortunate they were tainted a bit by being lumped in by Greer with other witnesses who were not credible at all. It's only the not credible witnesses that caused UFO journalist Leslie Kean to distance herself from Greer's disclosure project.

There is a lot of reaction to Steven Greer himself. Please, can we drop that and discuss the quality of the guest's reports? I'd truly like to know if the Indonesia story has any legs. I think the Antarctic story is BS based on a misunderstanding by someone not educated into those sciences. But could these people be telling the truth? Are they disinformation agents? Let's refocus on that.

I have been through the press conference a couple of times now, made me physically sick.

With Steven Greer, I was very impressed with the first disclosure press conference he gave 20 years ago. Since then he has had a few strike outs with various things. He hit another home run on this one in being able to gather as many people as he has and trying to approach these challenges in a realistic way.

One point of concern is in giving the US President the authority to oversee this matter. I see Biden screwing it up like the Afghanistan withdraw, that is if Biden is not already captured by some dark faction.

I do agree with using the rule of law to sort this mess out. I know the legal system is a slow, expensive and cumbersome mess that still has a few problems at times. Without it we are all going back to the law of the jungle. No matter how bad things might seam, they can always get worst.

If congress can find the courage to open this can of worms, it is going to be tough and take time to sort out.

I'm from Indonesia, and Herrera story is the most #ed one i watched that night. Can't sleep after that.. damn it.. and literally after 23 years never doing or touching any UFO story since disclosure 2001 back in the days, for 2 days I scraped again the internet to find old internet relics of the old internet stories and testimonies of the past and compile the whole thing in google site here, check it if you want it. I think that is my relieve. Still got a headache every time listening to the Herrera testimony again. a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2



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im from Indonesia and the earthquake do happened. en.wikipedia.org... a reply to: inert its the most fcked up story of the conference. still got stomache till now if remembering it. if you 2 + 2 the whole # and make it like a conspiracy theory would be:

1. They need Human
2. For The alien & human coalition biological experiment in their deep underground base
How?

A. they create the earth quake with the weapon they created in the artic (ie NZ chrstchurch and indonesia padang and aceh and thailand erathquake)
B. they deploy the craft & units, grab as many as human you can think of in the midst of the chaos
C. fly back

am I crazy?

a reply to: Arbitrageur

How about providing a screen shot of those pictures from Dr. Greer's web page, book or anything else that ties him in. I need the evidence and since your championing this you need to support it. Then I will believe you.

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Arbitrageur

How about providing a screen shot of those pictures from Dr. Greer's web page, book or anything else that ties him in. I need the evidence and since your championing this you need to support it. Then I will believe you.

As I said, the screenshots I posted of the bush he called an alien are from Greer's own video! They are the second and third images in this post. There I also linked the thread about the video, so you can watch the video, and see it's Greer's own video, so you can't link him in any more than that! The time indexes in the video are on the bottom of the screenshots. And it's the same bush pictured in the ATS thread that got moved to the hoax forum because it's such an obvious hoax.

You were so anxious to write me off, you didn't even research the material I already provided to you, but it's exactly what you're asking for, evidence that ties the hoax to Greer.