Canada Wildfires due to bad forest management, not climate change

a reply to: network dude



I really wish Greta along with her "handlers" would get up the curve. Burning forests hurts everyone along with animals and birds. IMO the current Governor of California is a train wreck as that state had its share of burns while he allows all those illegal immigrants into the state. He should have sent those able bodied males into the woods to fight the forest fires. Pay them, house them and feed them for their time.

But NO................... as it doesn't follow the NWO agenda

Old Growth Forests as Carbon Sinks

originally posted by: wdkirk
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I look at the science and the methodology and if many experts agree with the results, then you and I as laypersons don't have the authority to challenge them. If you feel you can challenge these scientists and their findings please do so then get back to us with written proof that you are right and they are wrong.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wdkirk

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wdkirk

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wdkirk
Whoever said it was climate change is supporting a false agenda with crap “facts”…..or just parroting what they hear.

Or believing in evidence-based science, ever think of that?

By all means, enlighten us. Al Gore 2024.

Enlighten yourself, the internet is your gateway.

Thought so. Your debunked at every turn. You have no facts. YOU parrot agendas.
I’ll bet you are fully boosted for Covid too.

I provide evidence-based science, where is yours?

What a pompous attitude. It's the same exact attitude of all our current corrupt leaders. Only THEY know what to do, and only THEY follow the science, while doing everything the complete opposite of actual science, AND with a thousand new failures under their belts.. And they get paid on top of their government pay to act that way, and they pay (bribe) government funded "scientists" to propagate their BS.

No one is ever going to trust you to be honest with the baloney you speak.

It's an evidence-based attitude and I will always look to those with expertise in the topic we are discussing, unlike most of you who just opine with nothing to back up your assertions.

so you have studied forest management, listened to experts on the topic, and decided they aren't really "experts" but rather listen to John Kerry accepting awards for his climate work while buzzing around in his private jet. Yep, you are miles ahead of us. Forest fires are due to climate change, just as all other weather that turns bad is. DERP.

a reply to: network dude

Absolute Horse#. I've worked if Forestry for almost 30 years in Western Canada. Your ignorance is astounding. This winter saw little snow pack and occasional thaws which both contributed to far less groundwater than usual. The trees are bone dry - we just finished doing sample cores. Fire in the boreal forest goes treetop to treetop (it's the quickest method of spread) ground fires move much, much slower as the combustible tend to smolder more. So coupled with the high winds and super dry, hot spring, it was a recipe for disaster. I.e where I am there is a lot of Aspen mixed in with the Spruce - normally they are very high in Moisture content, this year they are essentially standing matchsticks they are so dry. I don't wtf you are talking about Parks Canada for as they are not involved with 99 percent of forest land. Much of the productive forest land, the size of which you can't even comprehend in Texas, is administered provinciallly and federally but leased via FMA's (Forest management agreements) held by private forest products companies who bear the responsibility of maintaining thee woodlands. [snipped]

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Ja reply to: network dude

I'm no expert, but I think it's clear that screef wasn't talking about fires starting at treetop level, he was talking about them spreading?

a reply to: network dude
I'm an RPF, any forest professional who makes pronouncements based on their specific area and forest ecotype and translates them to areas that are beyond their purview, i would question their qualifications.

Yes, fire transmission in the boreal is predominantly treetop to treetop - any first year forestry student knows that.

a reply to: network dude

According to map linked below, there was a very significant heat anomaly over Canada in May 2023.

twitter.com...

In Scotland, right now:

BBC News - Daviot wildfire burns next to back garden amid power cuts
www.bbc.co.uk...

"Scientist Dr Gail Millin-Chalabi told BBC One's The Sunday Show wildfires have become more common in recent years.

"One of the things to bear in mind is we are seeing hotter, drier, longer summers in the UK and this was predicted back in 2013 when wildfire was first identified as a risk in the UK," she said.

"We are seeing larger, more severe wildfires here. We had the largest number of burnt areas of 30 hectares or larger in 2022, with 151 in total for the wildfire season."

a reply to: network dude

The latest Canadian wildfire, which started yesterday in BC (6/9/23), looks to me like it might be a prescribed burn, because of how neat the burn line looks in this aerial footage.

news.sky.com...

originally posted by: network dude

you are very correct, in that nobody is going to be able to do everything that needs to be done, in such a large area. But over a several year period, the right efforts could mitigate the bad, by targeting the areas that need controlled. Doing something beats doing nothing all day every day.

Thanks for your reply.

The comment was a reference to what smells like Technocratic™ hubris, of man thinking we can " Manage™ " some 300 million hectares of wild Boreal forest, where humans may have never even walked.

Map.

We can see on the map, that the lower parts of the provinces are not classified as Boreal forest.
Perhaps a higher percentage of those southern areas are populated, and has roads and trails to negotiate the woods.

But the 300 or so million hectares of northern wilderness ?

Don't think there are enough pencilnecks in Ottawa™ to even pretend to try and manage that.

Please don't get me wrong : it's good that we call-out the Climate-Change™ BS™, but we gotta watch what we believe from the BS™ Technocratic-Agenda™ as well.

Those are the Idiots™ that are designing them fancy new NACs™ ( Natural-Asset-Class™ ) Corporations, with CEOs™ and the full Regalia™, to pretend to mange the wilds.
When really, all it is is another massive Wealth-Transfer™ from the public, to private Corporations™.

Will also say that we did have an early melt this year in Québec, due-to some above average temps for a few days in late March and early April.
Also we had very little rain in May, as was shown in a chart on a link that was posted earlier in the thread, and yes, we did have a good lightning storm before the series of fires ' broke-out '.

We have hundreds of fires every spring, and can smell it even here in Montréal every year, but it usually isn't as intense as this year.

The situation is stable now, but we have had about 3 days of no rain for most of the province, and none in the Forecast™ until Tuesday, supposedly.

Would fires be purposely set to push the climate change agenda? Big stakes...

originally posted by: Dionysaur
Would fires be purposely set to push the climate change agenda? Big stakes...

No one would normally expect them to be, and yet the world has witnessed the most absurd lies and deceits on all fronts, with the biggest hypocrites and liars running the show now for years. All of them are partnered up with the largest polluters and fossil fuel burners preaching how bad it all is while ignoring their fine examples of that, and making backroom deals for billions of dollars using taxpayer funds to do it.

They paid colleges and professors to create papers in the past with false statistics to try and sell "global warming" and then came carbon credits, and regardless whether or not any of it was based on some or any truth, felt the need to lie about it all to embellish the agenda.

Yes, they would indeed have implemented covert plans to purposely set fires to assist their agendas. These people have no qualms about committing any sort of debauchery as they have already shown. The John Kerry types, Inner circles CFR, Bilderberg, the UN, the WHO. A very large network of thieves and domestic traitors and eco terrorists the world has ever seen.

a dozen or more large forest fires all starting at exactly the same time in Canada is no coincidence either.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wdkirk

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wdkirk

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: wdkirk
Whoever said it was climate change is supporting a false agenda with crap “facts”…..or just parroting what they hear.

Or believing in evidence-based science, ever think of that?

By all means, enlighten us. Al Gore 2024.

Enlighten yourself, the internet is your gateway.

Thought so. Your debunked at every turn. You have no facts. YOU parrot agendas.
I’ll bet you are fully boosted for Covid too.

I provide evidence-based science, where is yours?

What a pompous attitude. It's the same exact attitude of all our current corrupt leaders. Only THEY know what to do, and only THEY follow the science, while doing everything the complete opposite of actual science, AND with a thousand new failures under their belts.. And they get paid on top of their government pay to act that way, and they pay (bribe) government funded "scientists" to propagate their BS.

No one is ever going to trust you to be honest with the baloney you speak.

It's an evidence-based attitude and I will always look to those with expertise in the topic we are discussing, unlike most of you who just opine with nothing to back up your assertions.

so you have studied forest management, listened to experts on the topic, and decided they aren't really "experts" but rather listen to John Kerry accepting awards for his climate work while buzzing around in his private jet. Yep, you are miles ahead of us. Forest fires are due to climate change, just as all other weather that turns bad is. DERP.

The sources I posted previously tell a different tale.

As humans, it's NOT OUR JOB to control Climate Change! We can't. It's impossible. People that think we can are indoctrinated into the religion.

As humans, we aren't responsible for climate change whatsoever. There is ZERO data that supports our being here causes climate change (I have looked for YEARS... every study that proves it does is countered by an even better study that proves it doesn't). We do not change the climate, it's impossible for us to change it in the long-run. The climate will do what it naturally does... change at it's own accord.

I believe in climate change... ffs if it wasn't for Climate Change, I'd be living in an area still being crushed by 1000 meters of ice (N-E Canada).

Climate Change is real... but it's not up to us to control it... it's up to us to ADAPT to it.




PS: There IS something we can do though... stop POISONING the planet with dangerous chemicals spilling into waterways. We humans POISON the planet with highly toxic stuff that kills wildlife, reefs, fragile ecosystems, etc... WE CAN FIX that part, and we should ALL - conservatives, liberals, libertarians, you name it - be on board for THAT.