Canada Wildfires due to bad forest management, not climate change

a reply to: 1947boomer

That's a long-winded acknowledgement that yes, wildfires have gotten significantly less destructive with human intervention.

That's a far cry from the "HUMANS ARE DESTROYING THE WORLD!!!!" nonsense that we are fed on a routine basis.

The graph does not show "exponential growth until the 30s." It shows a few years of increasing burning. A few years is not a trend. That decade overall is lower than the previous decade (the decades are the wide bars.) The overall trend is down. If you're gonna stray into this discussion you might wanna at least learn how to read a graph.

Regardless of all your dancing, there is no data to support the fake claim that wildfires are getting worse due to manmade climate change. Same goes for hurricanes.

originally posted by: Mahogany
a reply to: network dude

I was just having a conversation with a couple of local buddies, not yesterday but the day before. We had about a good 5 minute laugh hypothesizing that Trump will chime in and say that Canada is burning because they need to rake more leaves.

Remember when he said that stupid thing?

Well, it's still funny years later and utterly ridiculous to blame everything, the whole thing, on just maintenance.

It's dishonest, and also naive.

LOL, yep, your TDS "Trumps" this guy.

Back in 2016 when Parks Canada had planned just 12 prescribed burns for the year, Mark Heathcott, the agency’s retired fire management coordinator of 23 years, warned about the importance of the practice to prevent future wildfires.

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DERP

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just so your butties can have a laugh at you too.

a reply to: network dude

The climate has changed for millions of years.

The forests have managed themselves for millions of years.

Humankind's ego is problem #1.

I remember as a kid in Florida the environmental nutjobs got into the capital and they shut down all forest management and proclaimed nature would handle what needs to be done.

2-3 years later the state caught fire, after that those nutjobs were removed standard practices were brought back and its been pretty good since then.

Also seem to remember reading their is a belief those canadian fires were arson, so I really dont get the climate change narrative around it.

Combine arson and lack of proper forest management and you get a terrible situation.

a reply to: Irishhaf

I remember being a kid about 12 and going to Marco Island. We drove from Cleveland. The drive down Aligator Alley was filled with smoke from wildfires. I'm 54 now, so I wonder if my memory puts those fires about the same time you remember them.

a reply to: network dude

Probably I am 50 and it was definitely pre-teen era by memory, heck the only real reason I remember it was listening to my dad complain about the idiots in Tallahassee that tried to reinvent the wheel.

Florida law also makes prescribed burning easier by reducing the legal liability for those who do it. Trained and certified “burn bosses” are liable for mistakes only if they show “gross negligence.” California adopted this standard last year, to the acclaim of conservation groups and prescribed fire advocates. Florida did it 32 years ago.

Found this, so yea the timing is pretty close, considering the speed of govt that would probably put the really bad year around my pre-teen early teen years.

Can you say "arson"?

Why am I not surprised? There were reports of arsonists in the USA last year, and with the huge number of fires in Canada.......
www.lifesitenews.com...

In the past months, Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) have arrested several arsonists who have been charged with lighting fires across several provinces including Nova Scotia, Yukon, British Columbia, and Alberta. The motive behind lighting the fires is unclear.

One Albertan, John Cook, has been arrested and charged with 10 counts of arson after setting a string of wildfires in and around Cold Lake, a hamlet near Edmonton.

In the vast, pristine, unspoiled, wilderness of the Canadian Boreal Forest :

Man claims to be able to manage the forest.

Forest laughs.

originally posted by: Nothin
In the vast, pristine, unspoiled, wilderness of the Canadian Boreal Forest :

Man claims to be able to manage the forest.

Forest laughs.

you are very correct, in that nobody is going to be able to do everything that needs to be done, in such a large area. But over a several year period, the right efforts could mitigate the bad, by targeting the areas that need controlled. Doing something beats doing nothing all day every day.

Whoever said it was climate change is supporting a false agenda with crap “facts”…..or just parroting what they hear.

originally posted by: wdkirk
Whoever said it was climate change is supporting a false agenda with crap “facts”…..or just parroting what they hear.

Or believing in evidence-based science, ever think of that?

Looks like the average temperature has been falling for a long time ?
Seems that we are just fluctuating and it is normal.
Given that a volcanos or other natural events will also drive the weather climate.

i am no expert !

a reply to: Quadlink

Seen more than a few scientist that jump on this saying they stop at a certain point on the temp change because if they go back further it shows we are still in a cooling period and if any of the major volcanoes pop that have been rumbling lately it will be bad.

After looking at the fire map some 200+ fires spread out apart from each other by hundreds of miles between each fire all across Canada in every province. They blame weather change and lighting. I am absolutely calling BS on that. There is clearly something else going on here.

*SNIP*

It's an evidence-based attitude and I will always look to those with expertise in the topic we are discussing, unlike most of you who just opine with nothing to back up your assertions.