Director of Fbi denies Congress unclassified information

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: frogs453

Impeccable credentials can change in the blink of an eye, in case you didn't know. If the FBI is dismantled, we can let law enforcement do what we pay them to do. Let State Troopers handle the big jobs.

The State Police are better at bringing real criminals to justice. The FBI excels at micky-mouse arrests and asking for help, AFTER the crime has been committed.

I.E. www.cbsnews.com...

TODAY, FBI Director Wray tells Chairman Comer, "You can come to our office and view the document in a highly controlled setting. Because it's not classified, we have to be extra strict!"

Comer Responds: nypost.com...

But Joe Biden accessed and took home file-after-file of CLASSIFIED documents over many years!

AND KEPT THEM!

WHAT
THE
FU*K!

originally posted by: frogs453

originally posted by: StoutBroux
The FBI is no longer the 'Federal Bureau of Investigation'. They cannot even perform their basic tasks without political bias.

An agency under a governing body that defies it's own laws, constitution, hierarchy of authority as well as it's own purpose has gotten too big and too powerful. The only fix is to completely dismantle it. They have become out of control and are at this point a terrorist organization.

Well what can you do? The FBI director was hired by a Republican President who insisted he had "impeccable credentials" but now it's being said the FBI is being political because people you want charged are not, or info you want is not being given, regardless of whatever policy or investigation is going on behind the scenes? You cannot trust a President to appoint them? What is your suggestion? If you dismantle it, then what? The child trafficking rings, the guys who attempted to blow up power grids, etc, they get free reign?

Regardless of who hired the current director, the organization as a whole is corrupt and has been long before Wray took the reigns. Trying to turn this into a recent or republican issue is asinine. Please take off your TDS hat and look at what is. And those awful people the FBI is supposed to stop???? Well to be blunt, they aren't doing a very good job.

The mission of the FBI is to protect the American people. If you're busy planting evidence, hiding evidence and pursuing the innocent, it makes it difficult to do your job. They're too busy with their noses in places they don't belong.

It's being reported that the document in question ultimately stems from a tranche of documents that Giuliani handed over to the DOJ in 2020.

Barr was dubious enough about the credibility of the documents that he assigned Pittsburgh US Attorney Scott Brady to review them and lead the FBI's investigation. Barr was specifically worried the documents could taint the investigation into Hunter Biden.

The document Comer wants is a product of that probe. The document provides no proof of its claims. It is merely an outline of one informant's claims.

a reply to: Threadbare
It appears the agent on that case or with knowledge of such has whistleblower issues.
We still listen to whistleblowers don’t we?

We already gave a special council report stating the fbi has issues.

Ps
Your saying Rudy had this specific fbi form?

a reply to: shooterbrody

No. I'm saying Rudy handed over to the DOJ a set of documents that claimed a number of things.

While Barr was suspicious of their legitimacy, he did open an investigation.

The document in question is a product of that investigation.

a reply to: Threadbare
Oh
So a tip from Rudy was enough for an agent to have made notes?
Notes so secret wray won’t bring them to the capital?


If it were as you describe wray would have leaked it to the NYT, as is the circular pattern established in the special council report?

a reply to: Threadbare

Wait, so the document came from Rudy, the hard drive Bannon admitted was "creatively edited" before release came from Rudy, who also was traipsing around Eastern Europe with Lev Parnas and other convicted criminals? You can't make this craziness up. We have Rudy with "whistleblowers", Kash Patel paid "whistleblowers" one who lied under oath this time about not knowing who paid for his lawyer but admitted it previously under oath, and a "missing" actually in jail in Cyprus for arms dealing to Libya and China "whistleblower". This is funny! Yet ATS insisted the die hard GOP people who were not paid and testified under oath for the J6 Committee were all "suspect" and "lying". This is comedy gold.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Threadbare

Wait, so the document came from Rudy, the hard drive Bannon admitted was "creatively edited" before release came from Rudy, who also was traipsing around Eastern Europe with Lev Parnas and other convicted criminals? You can't make this craziness up. We have Rudy with "whistleblowers", Kash Patel paid "whistleblowers" one who lied under oath this time about not knowing who paid for his lawyer but admitted it previously under oath, and a "missing" actually in jail in Cyprus for arms dealing to Libya and China "whistleblower". This is funny! Yet ATS insisted the die hard GOP people who were not paid and testified under oath for the J6 Committee were all "suspect" and "lying". This is comedy gold.

This is excellent.

a reply to: shooterbrody

The document contains information that could identify the informant.

If the FBI started outing their informants they would soon find themselves with none.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: shooterbrody

The document contains information that could identify the informant.

If the FBI started outing their informants they would soon find themselves with none.

You know this how exactly?

Also, congress isn’t entitled to that government information?

a reply to: shooterbrody

Wray has stated as such.

And no, Congress is not privy to the identity of CIs.

a reply to: Threadbare
But now they can go to the fbi and see it?
Why can’t the fbi bring it to congress?
They have scifs in congress.

Also, congress is entitled to all government information if they had the stones to claim such.

originally posted by: carewemust
TODAY, FBI Director Wray tells Chairman Comer, "You can come to our office and view the document in a highly controlled setting. Because it's not classified, we have to be extra strict!"

Comer Responds: nypost.com...

But Joe Biden accessed and took home file-after-file of CLASSIFIED documents over many years!

AND KEPT THEM!

WHAT
THE
FU*K!

Why do you refuse to just report facts?
Why do you consistently post your opinion as if its fact?

It's real simple, stop lying and just let the facts make your argument. For example, this is just letting the facts tell the story with no lying , hyperbole or fiction being used.

The FBI remains committed to cooperating with the Committee in good faith. In a letter to Chairman Comer earlier today, the FBI committed to providing access to information responsive to the Committee’s subpoena in a format and setting that maintains confidentiality and protects important security interests and the integrity of FBI investigations,” the bureau said.

nypost.com...

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Well,
We are here again.
Congress has requested information, and the fbi has refused.
I was under the impression that congress has oversight of the fbi?

www.pbs.org...

Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., criticized the federal law enforcement agency after he said his committee was told it would not gain access to an unclassified form that describes “an alleged criminal scheme” involving the president and a foreign national.

Interesting it’s a simple unclassified form being denied.
How is that possible?

“If he does not act, he’s not above the law. He’s not above Congress. And we will hold him in contempt. Now I want to be very clear about that,” McCarthy said

Not the first time this has been done.

www.politico.com...

I doubt this will end quicker than that example.

A contempt of Congress charge would require a full committee vote before going to the House floor. If the House were to approve a contempt resolution against Wray, the decision about whether to prosecute him would fall to prosecutors in the Justice Department, where Wray works.

Interesting times.

That is an EXACT Example of Defying a Higher LEGAL Authority . Who Funds the F.B.I. ? Congress Does . He who Giveth can Also Taketh Away . Biting the Hand that Feeds you is Illogical Behavior Unless the Powers that Be in the F.B.I. are Somehow being Funded by Other Politically Covert Means and Don't Give a Damn what Congress Thinks.........Hmm...


J. Edgar must Crying in Hell Right Now Over that Sorrowful News..........

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Well,
We are here again.
Congress has requested information, and the fbi has refused.
I was under the impression that congress has oversight of the fbi?

www.pbs.org...

Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., criticized the federal law enforcement agency after he said his committee was told it would not gain access to an unclassified form that describes “an alleged criminal scheme” involving the president and a foreign national.

Interesting it’s a simple unclassified form being denied.
How is that possible?

“If he does not act, he’s not above the law. He’s not above Congress. And we will hold him in contempt. Now I want to be very clear about that,” McCarthy said

Not the first time this has been done.

www.politico.com...

I doubt this will end quicker than that example.

A contempt of Congress charge would require a full committee vote before going to the House floor. If the House were to approve a contempt resolution against Wray, the decision about whether to prosecute him would fall to prosecutors in the Justice Department, where Wray works.

Interesting times.

MAJOR UPDATE 5.31.2023

TODAY: FBI Director Christopher Wray confirms that ONE of the criminal activities Joe Biden participated in, was a $5 million bribery scheme.

Source: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

a reply to: shooterbrody

The FBI are only allowing Comer and Raskin to view the document. They're trying to do what they can to comply with Congress while also doing everything they can to protect their CI's identity.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Well,
We are here again.
Congress has requested information, and the fbi has refused.
I was under the impression that congress has oversight of the fbi?

www.pbs.org...

Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., criticized the federal law enforcement agency after he said his committee was told it would not gain access to an unclassified form that describes “an alleged criminal scheme” involving the president and a foreign national.

Interesting it’s a simple unclassified form being denied.
How is that possible?

“If he does not act, he’s not above the law. He’s not above Congress. And we will hold him in contempt. Now I want to be very clear about that,” McCarthy said

Not the first time this has been done.

www.politico.com...

I doubt this will end quicker than that example.

A contempt of Congress charge would require a full committee vote before going to the House floor. If the House were to approve a contempt resolution against Wray, the decision about whether to prosecute him would fall to prosecutors in the Justice Department, where Wray works.

Interesting times.

MAJOR UPDATE 5.31.2023

TODAY: FBI Director Christopher Wray confirms that ONE of the criminal activities Joe Biden participated in, was a $5 million bribery scheme.

Source: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Kinda Hard to Ignore when Concrete Evidence Slaps you in the Face and you are then Forced to Do the Job you Took an OATH to Carry Out and Defend Lawfully........

a reply to: shooterbrody

So we are on page 4 of this discussion with people arguing that Congress doesn't have the power to gain access to this document (they do), people talking about Wray allowing access to certain people under a controlled environment, etc, etc, etc...

And all the while missing the point that the document in question is unclassified?

Meaning that under current law, anyone should be able to have access to it with a simple FOIA request?

a reply to: Lumenari

But even declassified info may have redactions of information, especially personally identifiable information. The FBI are willing to show it to Comer but honestly you couldn't trust that group to have it all and not out someone publicly as most of the recent hearings have been clown shows.