Christians Targeted with Holy Spirit Ouija Board

a reply to: infolurker

You have no reason to fear the Ideomotor reflex. No Ouija Board, no matter how faithfully one deludes themselves, is capable of being a medium. At most, it can give you the "most likely answer."

When I was younger, I did an experiment called "Will Ouija Boards Work When People Are Blindfolded?"

All participants wore blindfolds when playing.

Not one legible word was spelled. Total Gibberish. Worked like normal, the dealy would move, but it couldn't do anything linguistic without people's subconscious to guide the ideomotor muscle movements in the fingertips. I expected it wouldn't move at all. Someone was dominant enough to try to spell something, but failed to come close.

Not the only person to try that. Love YouTube.



While you really can't convince anyone a Hasboro toy isn't going to open their mind up to darkness, at most, it's a pageant people play with themselves.

My thinking is that a possessive spirit wouldn't need to use our feeble human senses to spell anything. They are marketing superstition. It lacks omnipotence that it should have.

Played with all sorts of these devices. One time, we got bored with normal play and started messing with it. You can literally treat it like an 1800's high society butler, give it a new name, call it your ghost slave, and it will still answer just like a game would. Nothing evil was ever unleashed. If that was a demon talking, then we could treat a demon with disdain and make it behave like a subservient butler named "Reginald Pennyfeather of Sussex".

Like everything else "occult" its greatest effects were accomplished by people mindf***ing themselves into fearing what a toy does.

Completely different experience when approached without inherent superstitions that make you fear what it can do.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: infolurker

The game, currently for sale on Amazon, advertises itself as "The Holy Spirit Board can answer all of life's most important questions, straight from the man himself!" and that it is "Perfect for churches, prayer groups or just getting together with friends."

Definitely a mockery. Biblically speaking, Christians already get answers "from the man Himself", no external tools needed. You already know that, but I said it for those who don't.

How fragile the mighty ego which scorns their neighbors faith.

a reply to: Degradation33

Harsh but fair. Extra marks for employing the scientific method to guarantee objective data.

a reply to: TzarChasm

The funniest thing was after we told it it was an English butler it started spelling out "quite" instead of answering yes. Longer answers became "quite" proper. Because all we knew were English stereotypes and cliches. All of a sudden it's Jeeves from every cartoon trope.

Just for fun, but enlightening nonetheless. We made it "channel" the "cartoon butler archetype."

a reply to: Degradation33

It's always interesting to see peoples' unshakeable faith get effortlessly shaken. Note that I said interesting, not constructive. Like watching a paraplegic jump out of his chair because a spider fell in his lap.

a reply to: infolurker

The most important part of a Ouija board is the part you cannot see.

The "influence". It comes pre-applied most of the time so any results cannot be considered anything but unconnected.

Unless it is a "metaphorical" board in the future perhaps.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: infolurker

The game, currently for sale on Amazon, advertises itself as "The Holy Spirit Board can answer all of life's most important questions, straight from the man himself!" and that it is "Perfect for churches, prayer groups or just getting together with friends."

Definitely a mockery. Biblically speaking, Christians already get answers "from the man Himself", no external tools needed. You already know that, but I said it for those who don't.

Yes, it does indeed mock Christianity and christians
To a point that the church or some members of it, feel they need to turn to ouija boards for answers
Indication the shallowness of its ministers and servants
Gain more logic from a satanic board re your faith than the church itself

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Degradation33

It's always interesting to see peoples' unshakeable faith get effortlessly shaken. Note that I said interesting, not constructive. Like watching a paraplegic jump out of his chair because a spider fell in his lap.

The ones with a shaken faith are the ones like those in the article seeking other means to communicate with the spiritual for answers.

Television already does what any Ouija Board could ever do.

a reply to: NorthOfStuffx2

I suspect that if one medium works, then all mediums work. If one medium is potentially a gateway to dark forces, then all of them are. Or perhaps it comes down to intent and qualified training, like firearms. Ouija doesn't entirely deserve its stigma, anymore than cannabis or islam or other examples you can think up. One might go so far as to compare with 1A in terms of using a tool to reach across barriers and communicate, which is a stretch I admit but still adjacent to the values of autonomy and speech.

originally posted by: MrBlaq
Television already does what any Ouija Board could ever do.

...holy #.

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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Degradation33

It's always interesting to see peoples' unshakeable faith get effortlessly shaken. Note that I said interesting, not constructive. Like watching a paraplegic jump out of his chair because a spider fell in his lap.

Unshakable faith?
Evidently the bible teaches just the opposite about faith
Its fleeting
bible.knowing-jesus.com...
Many times the faithful are called to hold on despite the evidence or lack thereof

Interesting how you are in a thread about misrepresenting christianity
Simple message is lost because

a reply to: Degradation33

According to the Australian Sunday Telegraph of January 10, 1971, Ouija boards are corrupting and depraving teenage children in Britain. It said: “Teachers and clergymen declared the Ouija cult, which is sweeping the country’s schools to be a graver menace than sex, drink or drugs . . . . The story came into the open when thirty teen-age schoolgirls began to rant, rave and scream every time the religious mistress entered the classroom. They became uncontrollably violent and kept shouting ‘There is no God.’ The girls were, normally, well-behaved.” It was found that the girls were addicted to the Ouija board and that the spirits had told them that there is no God. The paper goes on to report: “A girl tried to commit suicide after the Ouija board gave her a message, supposedly from her dead father, saying: ‘It’s wonderful here. Why don’t you join me?’” The secretary of the Spiritualist Association of Great Britain said: “Public sale of these . . . boards should be banned . . . The forces they release are irresponsible and dangerous.” The Bible warns against such efforts to contact wicked spirit forces.

In 1986, The Toronto Star reported that a 12-year-old girl spent a very frightening year after having been told incorrectly by a Ouija board that she would die by the time she reached the age of 13. In his book Ouija: The Most Dangerous Game, Stoker Hunt points out that apart from giving blatantly incorrect messages, the board has been known to induce psychosis in some users, while others lose all sense of reality due to their obsession with the game. The Toronto Star notes that use of the board could expose one to demonic influences, and that it isn’t something to be toyed with.

From 1980:

“The whole school went berserk,” said Miami, Florida, policeman Harry Cunnill. “Teachers and students were running around tearing up things.” A fire department spokesman said of one boy: “Other kids said something supernatural had possessed him.” And officer Cunnill said that police found “people yelling and screaming they were possessed.” The New York Times report of the incident at the Miami Aerospace Academy noted that “holes were kicked in walls and doors ripped down” by the frenzied teachers and students.

What caused such a rampage? According to reports, the students told officials that there had been a recent class on the supernatural, and the Times later reported that a teacher who resigned after the incident admitted that “a Ouija board game had got out of control.” She said: “There were girls screaming that there was a spirit inside.”

Whether or not this incident occurred as reported, the Bible indicates that evil spirits or demons can indeed use such devices to harm and mislead unwary persons. It warns against divination.​—Deut. 18:10-12.

1979: A foster child was beaten and abused for over four years by guardians who believed in “messages” received from a Ouija board, charges a lawsuit filed in Oregon. It is claimed that when something was missing in the house, the board would be consulted and the boy’s name would usually be the answer. As a punishment, it is alleged that the boy was tied to a chair, then beaten with a fishing rod or a belt. He was also forced to swallow spoonfuls of pepper, to chew and swallow large amounts of tobacco snuff, and was locked in his room for as long as three days while the rest of the family relaxed at the beach.

Some people may believe that there could not be dangerous consequences from playing with anything that looks as innocent as the Ouija board. Yet, a group of bus drivers in England who played with one during rest periods found that their attitude toward one another began changing. Some became unusually aggressive. This attitude even affected their driving. They reported feeling a strong urge to drive their vehicles into the oncoming traffic for no reason at all.

Then there is the young woman who experimented with a Ouija board and developed an obsession with the past. She believed she was in love with a man who had died 300 years earlier. She kept trying to make contact with him. Her mania finally led her to commit suicide by laying down on a railway track. Police investigating the case found diaries indicating she wanted to die so as to join her beloved.

Well, that contact for us is the Holy Spirit and we only have to ask in prayer to talk with God. Jesus told us that the gift of the holy spirit would remain until the return of the son of God. When we are baptized we are given the gift of the holy spirit and if we grow as children of God it grows inside us. Crazy as it seems to non believers, it is the actual experience. It is your inner guide if you listen to it. Turning it off, and regressing from the commandments to love our neighors is how we get pedo's and power mongers totally running our country into the ground. Perfectly ready for the NWO one world Gov slavery.

originally posted by: infolurker
The occult and false worship is creeping into most churches around the nation. Prosperity gospel (Money / physical wealth, what can God do for me), culture worshiping the latest fads, and of course the good old reliable occult and new age practices.

A great example show here with a so called "Christian Ouija Board". They know what they are doing and I am shocked on how fast they have achieved it in the last 20 or so years.


Sadly, this is the very type of scenario that can confuse and deceive people who are not Christian or are still immature in their faith.

www.charismanews.com...

Christianity has been the subject of mockery and derision since Jesus walked the earth and shared with the world that He was the hope for salvation.

In today's world, that mockery has taken the form of occult practices thinly veiled in Christian cover to deceive and cause division in its wake.

A group that created the YouTube page "Holy Spirit Games" also created a "Christian" Ouija board claiming that people will be able to communicate with Christ directly.

Creating a "Christian" Ouija board opens the spiritual doors to demonic oppression however, a consequence the group is either ignorant of, do not care about, or was the intended result in the first place.

The game, currently for sale on Amazon, advertises itself as "The Holy Spirit Board can answer all of life's most important questions, straight from the man himself!" and that it is "Perfect for churches, prayer groups or just getting together with friends."

I find the idea of Ouija Boards, especially a "christian" one pretty funny. Ill likely order one of these for a friend as a gag gift for christmas. Hell, i might order one for myself for the hell of it

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: infolurker

You have no reason to fear the Ideomotor reflex. No Ouija Board, no matter how faithfully one deludes themselves, is capable of being a medium. At most, it can give you the "most likely answer."

When I was younger, I did an experiment called "Will Ouija Boards Work When People Are Blindfolded?"

All participants wore blindfolds when playing.

Not one legible word was spelled. Total Gibberish. Worked like normal, the dealy would move, but it couldn't do anything linguistic without people's subconscious to guide the ideomotor muscle movements in the fingertips. I expected it wouldn't move at all. Someone was dominant enough to try to spell something, but failed to come close.

Not the only person to try that. Love YouTube.

While you really can't convince anyone a Hasboro toy isn't going to open their mind up to darkness, at most, it's a pageant people play with themselves.

My thinking is that a possessive spirit wouldn't need to use our feeble human senses to spell anything. They are marketing superstition. It lacks omnipotence that it should have.

Played with all sorts of these devices. One time, we got bored with normal play and started messing with it. You can literally treat it like an 1800's high society butler, give it a new name, call it your ghost slave, and it will still answer just like a game would. Nothing evil was ever unleashed. If that was a demon talking, then we could treat a demon with disdain and make it behave like a subservient butler named "Reginald Pennyfeather of Sussex".

Like everything else "occult" its greatest effects were accomplished by people mindf***ing themselves into fearing what a toy does.

Completely different experience when approached without inherent superstitions that make you fear what it can do.

That's a really interesting experiment. I've played with the boards off and on all my life. I had a strange dream that I was in an occult book store. All red velvet background and the guy at the counter said "they've been waiting to speak with you". So every night at 3am we'd hear the cabinet door slam in the Master Bathroom (we're night owls, so day is night/ night is day). It got to the point were we'd yell "SHUT UP" and it would stop.

So, we started playing with it. The spirit told us it's a child, there was a man there keeping it hostage, and this lasted for 3 days. I played alone, with my wife etc (not afraid of the board alone). So, the figure eights are REALLY interesting because it's been so hard that it feels like it would take the varnish off of the table at time. However, this thing had me convinced that there was a body under the cabinet and I was ready to pull out the cabinets!

There was the same energy coming through claiming to be the man and the child so I was suspicious. Finally I asked, "are you #ing with us?". H A H A H A H A H A H A lol

Still, I wonder if it's psychosomatic/subconscious. Always have to keep healthy skepticism.

oh. Around this time too, I was woken up by what I can only describe at a Banchee. Something standing over my bed yelling in my ear. Woke up and my ear was ringing but I caught a glimpse of it between waking up and sleeping. Still, I have to consider that it was just a dream but yea.. crazy stuff!

a reply to: infolurker

I’m saving my 30 pieces of silver for the Christian Tarot deck.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: KKLOCO

I never got much out of Ouija boards, they just sat motionless and I'd fall asleep.

I had a friend when I was in HS. Her father and his girlfriend were both professors at NMSU. They got together for Ouija sessions one of twice a week. It freaked my friend out. She claimed that the Ouija told her father all her high school girl secrets. Like if we told him we were going to the school football game, and actually went down to the river to smoke pot, he would know before we even got back. This was in the 70s so there werent tracking devices yet. I don't think he followed us either, as we started out where we were supposed to be.

It told him things about me that he couldn't know.

After that, I never tried again.....

Depends on where you live. When I was young and lived in a small town, I thought it was magic that my parents knew every step I took, and could give me an accurate itinerary of what I had done the entire day, when they got home from work.

Then I found out that the entertainment for our poor sleepy town was watching and reporting on us children.

The real mystery was how the hell they managed to get the information to my parents so fast!

a reply to: Darko

I feel almost left out because I never had any spooky experiences with "spirit boards". And I did things that typical superstition would say is a very bad idea. Perhaps that was tarnished by my own skepticism. I think that's why I was compelled to push what it can do while having no fear I was messing with something. Beyond just the blindfold experiment.

I remember this line of questioning:

Us: Spirit, so you affirm that you are indeed a disembodied spirit?

Board: Yes

Us: Do spirits have the ability to know things that we don't?

Board: Yes

Us: can you answer anything correctly?

Board: Yes

Us: we don't know what time it is, and don't have access to a clock unless we go and look, what time is it?

It was off by an hour and a half. The guess people that had lost track of time would make.

The lines of questioning basically ended up with logical paradox questions like we were trying to make its robot head explode.

"But how can you claim infallibility if you don't know the time?"

It even had jokes.

Us: "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck..."

Board: A lot.

Bored skeptical college board game playing nerds.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I have 'The Housewives Tarot'. Wands are mops and brooms. The Devil is a dancing Chocolate Cake!