Do the 2024 Elections Even Matter?

We've been making some changes to ATS and a few people have made assertions that we're doing so because the 2024 elections are coming up which is furthest from the truth. We're all about MAGA!

Make ATS Great Again! lol.

Seriously, we just want people to be nicer to each other and have civil discussions... that being said: I wanted to ask you: do the 2024 Elections even matter? Hear me out:

"President are selected, not elected" has always been my stance. I've always been an Anarchist in the true sense of the word "without leaders". I believe in self governing and no government control. My motto is "no victim no crime" and I've considered running for Judge and imposing harsh penalties for )including but not limited to) armed robbery, car jackings, rape. murder, and mandatory maximum for home invasions (because a man's home is his castle and violating that should get the death penalty) while dismissing any case where there is no victim involved.

Interesting fact: you don't have to be an attorney to be elected Judge.

That all being said. In 2015 I didn't really pay attention to all the fuss about Trump because I figured he was just part of the Agenda. But I loved the way he spoke from day 1 by calling out Jim Acosta for being fake news. A couple of years passed and I started to really like him. He declared no wars, made peace in the Middle East, stepped into N Korea, and we had a really strong military and economy. I even found out he was working with Victoria Robert's in 2008 to try to take down EPSTIEN! WOW!

At the time I was under the impression the military loved him because he valued their lives and not sending them to die in BS wars for resources. However, after speaking to enough soldiers I realized they WANT to go to combat because they get three-times the pay! So peace deals are not nearly as profitable for the military industrial complex even down to the "dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns" (A quote from Henry Kissinger, not me, so Vets, get offended but not at ME!).

Then 2020 came around with Warp Speed,. At this point I was cheerleading for him and I caught a lot of flack because of this. I thought people were being small minded because if you're the president you MUST find a solution. Interestingly enough Germany created a vaccine that is much safer than the crap they pushed and Congress rejected it so Trump tried to buy it with his own personal funds. But it was one that got rejected because they told the TRUTH in their studies where the others had lied.

On January 20, 2021 a part of me died. I couldn't believe they got away with it. Nancy Pelosi was even on CNN in July, drunk off her ass and she told them they know EXACTLY how to rig an election. She didn't use those exact words but she said "we know how the game is played, one candidate wins then we.. uhh.. the Republican party rushes in with all these mail in ballots and flips the election last minutes". I was posting this all over social media and everyone was like "no way, blah blah blah, wear a mask".

In 2021 he mentioned Warp Speed in one of his rallies and Candace Owens said he was disfranchising his base. On the Golf Course someone was trying to create issues, told Trump about it, and the two went back and forth. It was just an instigator causing problems. However, I cringed a bit because I could no longer justify Warp Speed as "something the leader of the free world must do during a pandemic, real/fake/or manufactured".

Then he announced his re-election! I was hyped up watching it live and cheering him on! YES! 4 more years of peace and prosperity. Then like a slap in the face.. WHAAAAAP! He starts praising China's totalitarian policies and "quick trials" (daily show trials) and public executions and talking about how we need public executions live on TV here in the US!

WHOA! Did I hear that correct?

Yes I did because he said it AGAIN in another speech. "You know, my people don't want me talking about this, but we need public executions on TV".

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRUMP I WAS CHEERLEADING FOR? IS HE A ROBOT, A CLONE, IS HIS BRAIN SCATTERED BY THE VAX??

Then just the other day, I heard MORE! Now he's calling for "Reeducation Camps" for the homeless!!! I get it. My neighborhood has turned to CRAP! I understand first hand what happens when Tent Cities go up in your backyard. Property value is down, crime is up, I hear gun shots every night, etc. I totally get it! But normalizing REEDUCATION CAMPS! Seriously! The homeless are just the FIRST targets. Before you know it, you're next!

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRUMP I WAS CHEERLEADING FOR?

So, 2024 is going to be even WORSE than we've ever seen. If it's not the deep state / Clinton/Bush/Obama/Biden oligarch, then we're going to have Handsmaid's Tale situation with morality police? It doesn't matter, Trump or Desantis, they're both the same. Morality police is the next step because they're already going after free speech, guns, etc. etc. Slowly but surely, Morality Police are going to come creeping into our lives and one week the chocolate rations are going to be reported as going down 20% then the next reported as going up 20% and the trending hashtag will be #doubeplusgood

We're screwed. Someone please tell me I'm wrong!

No, it's already too late.

This regime will not relinquish power. They can't.

Don't be surprised if the 2024 election gets canceled for some "national security" reason.

I dont know but lets add to the fact there is zero confidence in the voting system/security as well.

We are all just polishing the brass on the titanic at this point.

a reply to: Darko

Whats this?

No, seriously, what is this?

Legitamate complaints about Trump?!?!?

'Scuse me while I have a mild heart attack.

Ok, jokes aside. Biden doesnt want to debate (or likely campaign).

Desantis is likely running but its still not a sure thing.

RFK is looking fun but he has that D next to his name and thats swamp bait.

Vivek is wearing on me but its still early.

As far as Trump, his choice of people is terrible and folks will argue that he was misled, lied to, etc but this doesnt absolve Trump and reinforces the argument based on who he picks.

Its a hell of a road to go yet.

Rs dont have all the answers and the Ds are so far gone that they fell off a cliff.

originally posted by: SuicideKing33
I dont know but lets add to the fact there is zero confidence in the voting system/security as well.

We are all just polishing the brass on the titanic at this point.

That can be stated enough.

Its a problem. And to people who dont think so I ask you to revisit 2016.....

No it doesn't matter.
Was set for Biden to win all along.
And if Biden gets re-elected and dies during term,
The vice president will step In.
(Woman)

a reply to: JinMI

RFK is looking fun but he has that D next to his name and thats swamp bait.

I wondered about him, so did a little digging. In more than one speech his said climate deniers need to be jailed.

Not open to considering all information and reacting reasonably? Not getting my consideration.

Is there anybody people would want to vote for en masse? Not yet; probably not ever.

I've had a nagging feeling that one day elections will be called off at the last minute due to some form of crisis; maybe 2024?

originally posted by: Darko
"President are selected, not elected"

Exactly.

All presidents are only front-men to distract you from the people who truly run the country.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: JinMI

RFK is looking fun but he has that D next to his name and thats swamp bait.

I wondered about him, so did a little digging. In more than one speech his said climate deniers need to be jailed.

Not open to considering all information and reacting reasonably? Not getting my consideration.

Is there anybody people would want to vote for en masse? Not yet; probably not ever.

I've had a nagging feeling that one day elections will be called off at the last minute due to some form of crisis; maybe 2024?

Nostradamus mentioned something about that.

Anywho, climate deniers jailed is certainly off the table.

Seriously, it's important for Americans to give Control of the U.S. Senate to Republicans in 2024, like they gave control of the U.S. House to Republicans in 2022.

Especially so if Americans want to trade Joe Biden for Donald Trump.

The Democrat Senate will not confirm any 2025 Trump Appointees he's promising to put in place to, "obliterate the Deep State".

For that matter, we need to make sure it's a MAGA-AF controlled Senate, like the House is now.

Republicans who aren't MAGA-AF will not want to obliterated the deep state any more than Democrats want to. Kickbacks, Insider Trading, $$$ Laundering, Trafficking Profit Skimming, Deals with China, Protecting each other, etc.. are what Deep State crooks at the top live on. Mostly Democrats, and quite a few Republicans...like Mitch McConnell...and others who are against Making America Great Again and keeping Americans First (MAGA-AF)

The damage is done and there's more to come. I never liked Trumps arrogance. Joe Biden is nothing more then a fart puppet. I never knew a President had the power to do so much damage to a nation so fast. The Dollar will fall much sooner and faster because of Joes actions, and I think it is all planned that way. Joe said Trump would get us into WW3 , but intelligent people knew it would be joe. He could actually get the US destroyed. He is that stupid, and he will do whatever he is told by his evil handlers.

And if Joe keeled tonight, we would have Kamala tomorrow. How sickening it that? Willie is probably laughing his ass off with the memories he has. Gack!

Joe was put in to bring about a new world order, and a new digital currency that will cause more control than Bushes "Patriot Act". What an act huh? Disgusting. We have crap politicians on both sides of the aisle, especially in the DNC. All they care about is trans, and spending money we don't have. They care nothing about the middle class, nor the poor Americans. It's all an act to line their pockets. Obviously, many conservatives are compromised, or they are such cowards, I bet their bellies are yellow.

No, its too late now, and there will be increased control, over good Americans, and lenient sentences on violent sick criminals. Thats what the evil world leaders want.

a reply to: Darko

From the increasing anti Biden threads, I'd say Biden has the most chance of winning. Just saying.

a reply to: Darko

It's interesting that as the site owner you are giving what I believe to be your honest political opinion.
I understand on ATS, member first and then etc. So no foul.

From a marketing standpoint, it's not a good business model to share opines in general.

Neither here nor there.

I could get behind your stance of "President are selected, not elected" but for Trump.

I'm not sure what you are balking about.
Public executions are sensational and not everyone wants to see it. Unlike the classic novel 1984, we still have the ability to turn off the TV. We still have a choice.

I'm of the opinion of public castrations for rape convictions.

Do I think the public should be forced to watch such things? Never.
Do I think the opportunity of such might make people think twice. Yes.

Re-education camps for the homeless?
Over the past decade, shall we say. I've been in contact with an old friend and team mate from my youth.
I lent him some money to make our 20 year HS reunion. He mostly paid me back.
And then he fell on harder times in the last couple years, due to keeping up with child care costs. Mutual friends surrounded him, and he is flourishing, I will say I had a hand in it only because folks came to me to support him.
So, individuals in hard times have support if warranted. Stated with all respect.

If a homeless folk cannot get under a roof they are not a good person. From my own experience.

The morality police are a certain value of population. It's not the majority of people.
People are good.

Fanatics are bad. But they have the spotlight at the moment.

I'll get 'preachy' on you.

I don't think it matters because I believe that the country is under divine judgment.

Collectively the nation has turned away from God so God has done exactly what the culture wanted; He has turned away from the nation. The country is on its own. No election will fix this.

Its time America started demanding more.
If Joe Biden or Donald Trump are the best the USA has to offer then God help us all. Neither should have been allowed anywhere near The White House.
Same goes for Pence and Clinton....and the prospect of Kamala Harris being in The Oval Office honestly scares the crap out of me.

So, the top and bottom of it; no, the 2024 election doesn't really matter. Seems like no matter the next POTUS will be thoroughly unfit-for-office and won't be putting the best interests of the American people first and foremost.

Oh, and before anyone pipes up - yes, we have exactly the same problem over here in the UK. Westminster is infested with careerist politicians whose primary concerns are self-advancement, the promotion of big business and vested interests. They seek to maintain the status quo and a no longer fit-for-purpose party political system that does not promote or represent the wishes and best interests of the British people.

originally posted by: SuicideKing33
I dont know but lets add to the fact there is zero confidence in the voting system/security as well.

We are all just polishing the brass on the titanic at this point.

Quoted to BUMP this comment.

Exactly. My take is the Republic has perished. No idea what is going on now, but it appears thoroughly corrupt.

Cheers

What bloody election? You mean the thing where people vote and it doesn’t matter who they voted for because hackable machines and rigged elections, rigged mail in ballots. They stole the last election. They stole it. You think they wont steal it again. Its already done and dusted. Its a show. You’re living not in a republic, not a democracy. You’re in a fascist state.

a reply to: carewemust

No, it's important for the majority of Americans to decide, not you. If you don't like it, leave.

a reply to: nugget1

That's because he spent a lot of years as an environmental Lawyer. His idea of climate change is different than the narrative climate change of Al Gore. Kennedy is talking about public pollution, like the kinds that can be tested in a lab and seen with the eyes, think Erin Brockovich type pollution.

With the current stance that the DNC has about no presidential candidate debates, I believe Kennedy will get pushed out. I think he knows this too. That's why I think he's only running so that he can get his message out there and make himself available to Trump as a VP. Trump was after all a good friend of his cousin JFK JR, and both Trump and Kennedy have similar messages about what they are planning on doing.

A spilt ticket with Trump and Kennedy would be a very big powerhouse to deal with for Biden/Harris. I don't think the Trotskyists cheating would go unanswered this time around.

As to answer the thread topic:
"Every Election matters. At the best your candidate wins, and at its worse you can get a reading on how the public views the government."

lol I keep hearing this so if that's what people want to think, all the better I suppose. I don't understand where this revenue stream is coming from. Are you seeing something that I'm not? Because I don't even see Google ads. Is there some kind of ATS membership I'm not aware of? Where is this "business" everyone keeps referring to? Because as far as I know, no ones getting paid. I know I'm not. If there is a revenue stream then I want to be paid for what I'm doing! So... tell me what's up with that?

Also, reading back through my post , I don't think I stated anything but facts. Even the notion that "presidents are selected" wasn't an opinion but rather discussing my state of mind my entire life which is a fact, and that it changed, which is a fact. I guess the conclusion in the last paragraph could be taken as opinion but I meant it more as a conclusion of what the future has to bring based on the facts. So I guess, speculation could be opinion but I just wanted to clear up this part up because everything I said was based on facts, with very little onion.

I'll add one more thing. I am indeed a business owner (two actually) and there are some customers I want and customers that I don't want. Relationships are much more important than money, so I treat my customers like family and I also know my target demographic and I know how to spot "problem customers" and when to refuse to provide a service or product to someone. So, maybe that's the vibe you're picking up?? Because there are indeed some people I don't like in my sphere, no matter how much money they offer me.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: Darko

It's interesting that as the site owner you are giving what I believe to be your honest political opinion.
I understand on ATS, member first and then etc. So no foul.

From a marketing standpoint, it's not a good business model to share opines in general.

Neither here nor there.

edit on 28-4-2023 by Darko because: (no reason given)