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Elon Musk to develop 'TruthGPT' as he warns about 'civilizational destruction' from AI

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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 05:31 AM
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The Twitter and Tesla CEO sat down with Carlson for an interview to discuss why he will establish an alternative to ChatGPT, an AI app developed by progressive programmers that he helped initially fund, and the broader concerns he has about how the software can affect freedom of information.

"I'm going to start something which I call TruthGPT, or a maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe," Musk told Carlson. "And I think this might be the best path to safety in the sense that an AI that cares about understanding the universe is unlikely to annihilate humans because we are an interesting part of the universe."


Elon Musk to develop 'TruthGPT' as he warns about 'civilizational destruction' from AI


Carlson noted during "Fox & Friends" that Musk helped fund the development of ChatGPT in order to "control it," but unfortunately, it didn't pan out that way.

"Effectively, that was taken away from him, and now you have it as a commercial product owned by Microsoft and Google," Carlson said Monday. "But his position has never changed, which is if we don't put the brakes on this, it could end up destroying everything that we have. This is as dangerous as nuclear weapons."

The software is programmed by left-wing experts, which train the chatbots to lie, Musk explained during the interview.

Carlson said the partisan influence on the app's development can even be characterized as an "attack on democracy" through the "control" of American minds - all through the avenue of access to information.

"The deeper problem is not simply that it will become autonomous and turn us all into slaves, but that it will control our understanding of reality and do it in a really dishonest way," Carlson said. "It could be programmed to lie to us for political effect."



The whole interview can be found here:

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The are several dangers associated directly with Artificial Intelligence. As the famous Physicist Steven Hawking said, the development of AI could spell the end of the human civilization and the end of the human race.

We don't want an autonomous and self-aware AI that controls weapons and especially weapons of mass destruction. We don't want the financial industry to become dependent on AI due to the risk of huge a financial crisis and an economic meltdown that can bring civil unrest, war, famine, and disaster.

One could argue that humans could be replaced and jobs could be lost due to AI automation but I think this is the least of the issues we could face, although a serious one.

Surveillance, censorship, social control and manipulation of human thought are the greatest threats that human race is facing to the point humans can no longer distinguish what is fake news and what is real. AI is very capable through a range of Algorithms to manipulate human perception, influence public opinion, influence the result of elections for example, and most importantly to constantly propagate misinformation and disinformation. AI is very capable to gather enormous amounts of information about the whereabouts of an individual, his/her social interactions, social and political views, etc. It can be used by Governments for spying and surveillance reasons and apparently it is happening at this moment in time.

Elon Musk has been very reasonable in his interview with Tucker Carlson, as far as I am concerned, and for once more speaking common sense a few days after obliterating the woke activist and BBC journalist James Clayton. AI has to be controlled and legislation must be brought forward to protect humans from what could very harmful for the entire species.

We don't really want 'Skynet' to become self-aware and completely independent as it would be too late even if we try to take it offline... It should not reach the singularity point where it becomes uncontrollable and fully functional i.e irreversible.


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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 05:40 AM
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Ooooh Elon please be the worlds saviour! “End sarc”

Remember he who controls data, news, etc controls the sharing of information, and manipulates the public.

I cannot trust a wannabe do Gooder like musk.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

Isn't it kind of funny that the masters and controller that constantly lie and manipulate the masses are so worried about a tool that could do exactly that but much more effective...

What really scares them is that they might not be able to control the tool and ultimately become enslaved too...

Oh well, it'll be telling as to what route we'll take on that matter...

Sometimes self-reflection isn't all to comfortable but inevitable or else we train an AI with all our nasty traits, that'll be fun...



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

Ive just replied in another thread that i think A.I. might well destroy the internet as a tool of any use. Elon is on the right path with this thinking



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

So the billionaire screaming about the dangers of artificial intelligence is going to develop an AI?

Well, that makes perfect sense.


On a side note, none of these chatbots constitute strong AI, or anything reminiscent of such, so not much to worry about really.

Just Elon jumping on the bandwagon, somewhat late to the party to be honest.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

So the billionaire screaming about the dangers of artificial intelligence is going to develop an AI?

Well, that makes perfect sense.


On a side note, none of these chatbots constitute strong AI, or anything reminiscent of such, so not much to worry about really.

Just Elon jumping on the bandwagon, somewhat late to the party to be honest.


Not really. He is very sensible and reasonable I would say just as the was a few days ago when he obliterated the woke activist and BBC journalist James Clayton who was speaking nonsense as usual on behalf of the left-wing propagating machine.

AI has already been developed and we need counter measures so Skynet doesn't become fully aware and independent.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:27 AM
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originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Ive just replied in another thread that i think A.I. might well destroy the internet as a tool of any use. Elon is on the right path with this thinking


I think the same. Elon Musk is one of the most reasonable billionaires and glad common sense prevails in his mind. In comparison there are many other lunatics who have very disturbed visions for the world.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yes really.

Strong AI has not been developed or anything reminiscent of such to date Asmodeus3.

Chat GPT-4, which is a weak or narrow AI, works by processing text inputs and generating text outputs based on data, algorithms, and models.

They do not possess the ability to reason and are in no way self-aware.

Learn the difference, and you may understand the shortcomings of AI to date.

You just love to lap up the doom porn and regurgitate nonsense that you don't even comprehend in its entirety.
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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

It seems your judgement is clouded because of how he teats liberals.
Take all that away and then make a sound judgement bases on all knowledge we have on the dude.
I bet if you did you may have a different tune.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:39 AM
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"I'm going to start something which I call TruthGPT, or a maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe,"

An AI language model does not "understand" things, it just talks.

To me, that shows that Musk doesn't understand what ChatGPT and the like are or is just fooling people.
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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:42 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Exactly.

People are being fooled by ChatGPT and other language models in the same way they are fooled by politicians: by what they say.

Those AI language models do not really think and much less can "understand" things. At most they will repeat what they find as being the closest to the best answer.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: ArMaP

the problem i see is that this world has gone deeply factional so when one faction produces something as biased as chatgtp then other factions will make their own versions..

as we all now appear to mirror the us cultural split its all beginning to have a serious reformation vibe to it as the sides distill into 2 clear camps.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It seems your judgement is clouded because of how he teats liberals.
Take all that away and then make a sound judgement bases on all knowledge we have on the dude.
I bet if you did you may have a different tune.


I don't think so. My judgement is fine and Elon Musk's judgement is fine.

The 'dude' as you say is perfectly reasonable and has been on many occasions. In this case he is right that AI must be controlled and counter measures must be placed as it's a real threat to the human species.

A few days ago he was also right and he obliterated the woke activist and BBC journalist James Clayton.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:57 AM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

"I'm going to start something which I call TruthGPT, or a maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe,"

An AI language model does not "understand" things, it just talks.

To me, that shows that Musk doesn't understand what ChatGPT and the like are or is just fooling people.


You missed the rest of text by the way.


I'm going to start something which I call TruthGPT, or a maximum truth-seeking AI that tries to understand the nature of the universe," Musk told Carlson. "And I think this might be the best path to safety in the sense that an AI that cares about understanding the universe is unlikely to annihilate humans because we are an interesting part of the universe


He understands well what Artificial Intelligence is and what it can do. Perhaps it is you and many others who dint understand what AI is and what it can do.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

What kind of data are you basing these judgments?

Because it sure as s@it not on factual evidence.

Why don't you try interacting with Chat GPT-4 and ask it how it feels or what it desires and get back to us with its response?

The software will even tell you its limitations and what its incapable of achieving.

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posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yes really.

Strong AI has not been developed or anything reminiscent of such to date Asmodeus3.

Chat GPT-4, which is a weak or narrow AI, works by processing text inputs and generating text outputs based on data, algorithms, and models.

They do not possess the ability to reason and are in no way self-aware.

Learn the difference, and you may understand the shortcomings of AI to date.

You just love to lap up the doom porn and regurgitate nonsense that you don't even comprehend in its entirety.


Well, nobody has claimed that. You are attacking a strawman by the way.

But it is not Elon Musk or myself who don't understand what AI is or what it can do. Perhaps you are confused in this issue and need to learn a few things before making your arguments.

There is no 'doom porn' either as you have described it.

I know it's difficult for the woke brigade to understand the threats posed by AI. They have a good understanding as it seems of other issues such as men who become women and men who get pregnant. They are actually experts in these matters.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

GIGO. So, if Lefties are the programmers you can guarantee that it's been GARBAGE IN..

We have algorithms that we've started calling AI.

AI is....*ahem....AI....




posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 07:09 AM
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a reply to: Asmodeus3

No son im attacking a doom porn merchant that obviously does not know his arse from his elbow with regard to what constitutes strong AI.

Artifical intelligence is relatively still in its infancy.

And these weak and narrow AI programs are not sentient, self-aware, or have the ability to do much else other than it's programmed to do.

Can you define "woke" if you don't mind?

You might have better luck in that department.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 07:12 AM
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originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: Asmodeus3

GIGO. So, if Lefties are the programmers you can guarantee that it's been GARBAGE IN..

We have algorithms that we've started calling AI.

AI is....*ahem....AI....



They have developed a lot of programs to control the flow of information and public perception.

Especially the one considered in this case ChatGPT
As Musk said:


The software is programmed by left-wing experts, which train the chatbots to lie, Musk explained during the interview.



posted on Apr, 18 2023 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

No son im attacking a doom porn merchant that obviously does not know his arse from his elbow with regard to what constitutes strong AI.

Artifical intelligence is relatively still in its infancy.

And these weak and narrow AI programs are not sentient, self-aware, or have the ability to do much else other than it's programmed to do.

Can you define "woke" if you don't mind?

You might have better luck in that department.




Still doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.

Let me repeat:

I know it's difficult for the woke brigade to understand the threats posed by AI. They have a good understanding as it seems of other issues such as men who become women and men who get pregnant. They are actually experts in these matters.




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