Why be afraid when it may be a good thing to return to little house in the prairie

a reply to: godservant

I Agree . " Decentralization " will be the Savior of Humanity in the Near Future . Local Economies , Local Governments , and Self Sustained Local Natural Food Production . All it takes is for People to see the Logic behind it and the Will to make it a Reality .

Anyone reading this thread and thinking they can bug-out to the wilderness should watch this documentary.

Dick Proenneke is a legend who finally was convinced to leave his little cabin in his 80s!!!

Alone in the Wilderness
In 1968, one man films his attempt to build a cabin and live in the Alaskan wilderness. He goes weeks or months at a time without human contact.
IMDB

Don't let the fact he makes it look so easy fool ya!

Enjoy!

a reply to: MykeNukem

Most people wouldn't know what to do if they left a well marked trail in a forest or park, much less be able to handle what that fellow did.

I am amazed by how different the forest can look just by taking a few steps to the side

Like the Virginia Slims ads used to tell us, "we've come a long way" ... from brute survival skills.

Cheers

a reply to: Ahabstar

Every nation has problems Ahabstar far as i understand the matter.

As to that percentage, i take it that's just a guess.

History is what it is all the same.

As to sorting a lot out in the nearly 250 years without totalitarianism, well America is not the only nation on Earth to claim to be free.

The thing is its illusory, freedom that is, and people are only ever as free as our laws allow, else anarchy and survival of the fittest prevail.

Humans require laws and codes of conduct to interact with one another, especially so in large groups, else it just all goes breasts up sharpish.

a reply to: TheRedneck
Let me give you a little scenario (god forbid it never happens, but it could). Do you remember Waco. Yeah a religious cult that upset someone. They had killed no one, robbed no one, their crime:- supposed stock pile of weapons. Yet the "authorities" saw fit to attack them mob handed. So your little homestead will go under just like everyone else's if the Authorities choose so. Cos they know where you live.

Now's the time for you to say "over my dead body", which they will duly oblige you.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: TheRedneck
Let me give you a little scenario (god forbid it never happens, but it could). Do you remember Waco. Yeah a religious cult that upset someone. They had killed no one, robbed no one, their crime:- supposed stock pile of weapons. Yet the "authorities" saw fit to attack them mob handed. So your little homestead will go under just like everyone else's if the Authorities choose so. Cos they know where you live.

Now's the time for you to say "over my dead body", which they will duly oblige you.

Exactly. That is why I gave up storing goods a long time ago. I still have a small go bag, but it only contains things I may need but am very unlikely to pick up along the way.

They know everything you have, and everything you have ever purchased. The law is in their favor when they take your goods for the good of all, and that includes your house and everything in it.

You will have nothing and be happy they let your walk your happy ass away alive.

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MykeNukem

Most people wouldn't know what to do if they left a well marked trail in a forest or park, much less be able to handle what that fellow did.

I am amazed by how different the forest can look just by taking a few steps to the side

Like the Virginia Slims ads used to tell us, "we've come a long way" ... from brute survival skills.

Cheers

Kinda funny story:

My wife, my son and I were at one of our cleared "spots" we have that lead deeper and deeper into the Canadian wilderness northward.

Well, anyway my wife went back to the truck to get something, which was parked on a bush road about 500ft away from the site.

She made it to the truck no problem, but got turned around and lost on her way back and walked right past the camp to the lake that was down the valley below the camp (maybe 1/2 mile away). Luckily, we could hear her hollering from down in the valley and were able to hone in on the sound and all was good, we met up and went and had a few beers, lol.

But just goes to show how fast you can get turned around and lost in thick bush. Most people don't have their instincts trained to continuously keep track of their direction, which is an important skill to acquire for survival situations.

Even experienced woodsmen can get lost quickly, thing is, they can figure out where they went wrong.

Yep, it's no game, dangerous stuff.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I suppose the best things to have in any sort of SHTF scenario is clean water, some ramen, an assault rifle + ammunition, and a bike.

Mobility would be the key to survival under such circumstance, at least in the interim.

Staying in one place whilst the masses rage and fall upon one another will at some point simply get you attacked, dead, or most likely both.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I suppose the best things to have in any sort of SHTF scenario is clean water, some ramen, an assault rifle + ammunition, and a bike.

Mobility would be the key to survival under such circumstance, at least in the interim.

Staying in one place whilst the masses rage and fall upon one another will at some point simply get you attacked, dead, or most likely both.

Just wanted to recommend that rice will give you the biggest bang for your buck compared to ramen in terms of nutrition and weight factors.

a reply to: godservant

When things go crazy and humanity needs to take a time out and pause, I hope that folks do make it that way.

Sadly there are those of us who will never be able to do that.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MykeNukem

Most people wouldn't know what to do if they left a well marked trail in a forest or park, much less be able to handle what that fellow did.

I am amazed by how different the forest can look just by taking a few steps to the side

Like the Virginia Slims ads used to tell us, "we've come a long way" ... from brute survival skills.

Cheers

Kinda funny story:

My wife, my son and I were at one of our cleared "spots" we have that lead deeper and deeper into the Canadian wilderness northward.

Well, anyway my wife went back to the truck to get something, which was parked on a bush road about 500ft away from the site.

She made it to the truck no problem, but got turned around and lost on her way back and walked right past the camp to the lake that was down the valley below the camp (maybe 1/2 mile away). Luckily, we could hear her hollering from down in the valley and were able to hone in on the sound and all was good, we met up and went and had a few beers, lol.

But just goes to show how fast you can get turned around and lost in thick bush. Most people don't have their instincts trained to continuously keep track of their direction, which is an important skill to acquire for survival situations.

Even experienced woodsmen can get lost quickly, thing is, they can figure out where they went wrong.

Yep, it's no game, dangerous stuff.

You don’t need thick bush, I get turned around at least once a month in these woods. My dogs are worse than the kids in Family Circle. Only I don’t have any dotted lines to follow.

It is amazing how fast the terrain changes out here in just a couple of weeks. Things grow like wildfire out here and between the coyotes and the wild boar things get dug up or moved.

I depend on direction and the dogs to get me back home. I just keep finding new ways to go home.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MykeNukem

Most people wouldn't know what to do if they left a well marked trail in a forest or park, much less be able to handle what that fellow did.

I am amazed by how different the forest can look just by taking a few steps to the side

Like the Virginia Slims ads used to tell us, "we've come a long way" ... from brute survival skills.

Cheers

Kinda funny story:

My wife, my son and I were at one of our cleared "spots" we have that lead deeper and deeper into the Canadian wilderness northward.

Well, anyway my wife went back to the truck to get something, which was parked on a bush road about 500ft away from the site.

She made it to the truck no problem, but got turned around and lost on her way back and walked right past the camp to the lake that was down the valley below the camp (maybe 1/2 mile away). Luckily, we could hear her hollering from down in the valley and were able to hone in on the sound and all was good, we met up and went and had a few beers, lol.

But just goes to show how fast you can get turned around and lost in thick bush. Most people don't have their instincts trained to continuously keep track of their direction, which is an important skill to acquire for survival situations.

Even experienced woodsmen can get lost quickly, thing is, they can figure out where they went wrong.

Yep, it's no game, dangerous stuff.

You don’t need thick bush, I get turned around at least once a month in these woods. My dogs are worse than the kids in Family Circle. Only I don’t have any dotted lines to follow.

It is amazing how fast the terrain changes out here in just a couple of weeks. Things grow like wildfire out here and between the coyotes and the wild boar things get dug up or moved.

I depend on direction and the dogs to get me back home. I just keep finding new ways to go home.

Dogs are man and womans best friend in the bush.

Help find game, lead you home, provide warmth and comfort and security, yep, always a good bet to have your trusty friend with ya.

Oh, about the thick brush, agreed, that was just the case in the scenario I described, but I've seen people get lost just going for a quick leak...

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MykeNukem

Most people wouldn't know what to do if they left a well marked trail in a forest or park, much less be able to handle what that fellow did.

I am amazed by how different the forest can look just by taking a few steps to the side

Like the Virginia Slims ads used to tell us, "we've come a long way" ... from brute survival skills.

Cheers

Kinda funny story:

My wife, my son and I were at one of our cleared "spots" we have that lead deeper and deeper into the Canadian wilderness northward.

Well, anyway my wife went back to the truck to get something, which was parked on a bush road about 500ft away from the site.

She made it to the truck no problem, but got turned around and lost on her way back and walked right past the camp to the lake that was down the valley below the camp (maybe 1/2 mile away). Luckily, we could hear her hollering from down in the valley and were able to hone in on the sound and all was good, we met up and went and had a few beers, lol.

But just goes to show how fast you can get turned around and lost in thick bush. Most people don't have their instincts trained to continuously keep track of their direction, which is an important skill to acquire for survival situations.

Even experienced woodsmen can get lost quickly, thing is, they can figure out where they went wrong.

Yep, it's no game, dangerous stuff.

You don’t need thick bush, I get turned around at least once a month in these woods. My dogs are worse than the kids in Family Circle. Only I don’t have any dotted lines to follow.

It is amazing how fast the terrain changes out here in just a couple of weeks. Things grow like wildfire out here and between the coyotes and the wild boar things get dug up or moved.

I depend on direction and the dogs to get me back home. I just keep finding new ways to go home.

Dogs are man and womans best friend in the bush.

Help find game, lead you home, provide warmth and comfort and security, yep, always a good bet to have your trusty friend with ya.

Oh, about the thick brush, agreed, that was just the case in the scenario I described, but I've seen people get lost just going for a quick leak...

Tbh, most people nowadays could get lost in a round room with one door.

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MykeNukem

Most people wouldn't know what to do if they left a well marked trail in a forest or park, much less be able to handle what that fellow did.

I am amazed by how different the forest can look just by taking a few steps to the side

Like the Virginia Slims ads used to tell us, "we've come a long way" ... from brute survival skills.

Cheers

Kinda funny story:

My wife, my son and I were at one of our cleared "spots" we have that lead deeper and deeper into the Canadian wilderness northward.

Well, anyway my wife went back to the truck to get something, which was parked on a bush road about 500ft away from the site.

She made it to the truck no problem, but got turned around and lost on her way back and walked right past the camp to the lake that was down the valley below the camp (maybe 1/2 mile away). Luckily, we could hear her hollering from down in the valley and were able to hone in on the sound and all was good, we met up and went and had a few beers, lol.

But just goes to show how fast you can get turned around and lost in thick bush. Most people don't have their instincts trained to continuously keep track of their direction, which is an important skill to acquire for survival situations.

Even experienced woodsmen can get lost quickly, thing is, they can figure out where they went wrong.

Yep, it's no game, dangerous stuff.

You don’t need thick bush, I get turned around at least once a month in these woods. My dogs are worse than the kids in Family Circle. Only I don’t have any dotted lines to follow.

It is amazing how fast the terrain changes out here in just a couple of weeks. Things grow like wildfire out here and between the coyotes and the wild boar things get dug up or moved.

I depend on direction and the dogs to get me back home. I just keep finding new ways to go home.

Dogs are man and womans best friend in the bush.

Help find game, lead you home, provide warmth and comfort and security, yep, always a good bet to have your trusty friend with ya.

Oh, about the thick brush, agreed, that was just the case in the scenario I described, but I've seen people get lost just going for a quick leak...

Tbh, most people nowadays could get lost in a round room with one door.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Nothin
My whacky wonderful woman and me, like to watch Alone™.

Figure that's how many of us will end-up.

Except when you make the extraction call : nobody is there ...

If there was a show I could choose for people to watch to get a grip on what the truth is on survival, that show is probably the closest I've seen.

I'd recommend it to anyone even thinking of bugging out...

Stay away form Bear Gryllis or any of those clowns...they'll teach you how to die quickly..

Thanks my friend, and loved your post about how well organized you are.

Naked-and-Afraid™ seems not too bad either.

You see folks getting knocked-out of those competitions, sometimes real quick.
They just eat the wrong thing once, or don't eat enough, or get sick/frostbite from the weather just-a-weatherin.

So many on those shows bow-out early, it's a good lesson that survival in the Boreal forest would probably be brutal, at best.
Five months of the year it's frozen, then the frickin black-flies will pick your bones dry.
We don't have an apex predator, just trillions of little buggers with flesh chainsaws ... LoL !!

But you know all of that.

Am just a big-talker myself, and not really good at "doing" anything.

Figuring the micro-brasserie down the street will not be getting any more delivery trucks, and will need help to get rid of their extra batches coming mature.
That'll get me by for a few weeks ...

If you think The Great Reset has anything to do with going back to life like the TV show ' Little House on the Prairie ' gravely mistaken..

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: godservant

It's going to be nothing like Little House on the Prairie.

Get prepared, do your research, practice dry runs.

Unless you do it, you don't know how to do it. That simple.

Start fires from flint and from sticks. Gather water using a tarp and a rock, or by digging holes near ferns. Learn your plants, go out identify and eat them, let your system get used to it. Build practice shelters of all types. Learn the terrain you occupy and where to go and where you CAN occupy. Become familiar with your chosen weapons, practice constantly. Learn to set snares and figure 4 traps, etc. Learn about the game in your area and their habits. Learn orienteering and other directional aids. Learn Morse Code. Learn, learn, learn....

Do all this and more and you may stand a chance.

Very few of us will be able to stay put. I'm on 40 acres and 50 miles from the nearest town, but I still have a bugout plan, just in case.

No one is going to help you get there on this thread, you have to do the homework and footwork on your own. Just like you'll have to do when SHTF.

Damn! Accept for the distance to the nearest town, we live parallel lives! I've been rather lax on what I can produce in my garden area though, except making beer, wine, moonshine, tobacco and cannabis products like I have for the past 5 plus years.

Dang straight!

Hey bro...you know all of that is going to be key barter items.

a reply to: TheRedneck

An excellent post and I applaud you for it.

However, to keep my sanity I am an apocaloptimist.

I see that everything is going to s**t but I still think it is going to end up ok.

originally posted by: Jobeycool
If you think The Great Reset has anything to do with going back to life like the TV show ' Little House on the Prairie ' gravely mistaken..

We can’t go back, but we are going to have to learn to function the best we can with what we don’t have. For some the only way they can draw that image in their minds is to look at movies, TV series, and books, for a glimpse of how it was done before. They didn’t live it, and they fall severely short of even coming close to imaging exactly how bad it can be.

I was a child. The depression was over but we were still quite poor. It wasn’t bad for me because I didn’t know anything else. We lived in the country close to the water. Fish, crabs, clams, and oysters were plentiful. There was rabbit, squirrel, and deer, in the wild, plus livestock, and harvest time. We didn’t go hungry. We just didn’t have “stuff”.

I remember spending hours looking at the Montgomery Wards, and Sears and Roebuck catalogs. The Wish Books. I never got tired of looking at them. My first paycheck, I bought my Mother a coat from Sears and Roebuck, because she would never buy herself one. She always said that she had better things to do with her money than to buy a coat. We, her children were the better things in her eyes.

Parents made a lot of sacrifices back then. Most of those sacrifices their children never knew about. We were happy because we had each other, and you can’t miss what you can’t measure.

It is going to be very hard to go from having everything to having nothing. Learning to find joy in just having each other and feeling blessed with just an egg, potatoes, and cornbread, for breakfast, and leftovers made into smorgasbord, for dinner, will get you a long way.

From a child’s view it was a simple happy time. I am sure the adults saw it differently.

I asked my Mother which life does she think is better. She said that her life today is by far so much better, but she would not want to raise children in this time. She said she would give it all up if she had to raise children and go back to having nothing, before even trying to raise children in this world. She has 10 children. I think she did an amazing job. I think she knows what she is talking about.

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Nothin
My whacky wonderful woman and me, like to watch Alone™.

Figure that's how many of us will end-up.

Except when you make the extraction call : nobody is there ...

If there was a show I could choose for people to watch to get a grip on what the truth is on survival, that show is probably the closest I've seen.

I'd recommend it to anyone even thinking of bugging out...

Stay away form Bear Gryllis or any of those clowns...they'll teach you how to die quickly..

Thanks my friend, and loved your post about how well organized you are.

Naked-and-Afraid™ seems not too bad either.

You see folks getting knocked-out of those competitions, sometimes real quick.
They just eat the wrong thing once, or don't eat enough, or get sick/frostbite from the weather just-a-weatherin.

So many on those shows bow-out early, it's a good lesson that survival in the Boreal forest would probably be brutal, at best.
Five months of the year it's frozen, then the frickin black-flies will pick your bones dry.
We don't have an apex predator, just trillions of little buggers with flesh chainsaws ... LoL !!

But you know all of that.

Am just a big-talker myself, and not really good at "doing" anything.

Figuring the micro-brasserie down the street will not be getting any more delivery trucks, and will need help to get rid of their extra batches coming mature.

That'll get me by for a few weeks ...

Yep, just apply what you can to your situation, that's all any of us can do, bro.

Micro-brasserie leftovers are as good a start as any, lmao