Husband of BBC presenter killed by the Covid vaccine is suing Astrazeneca

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

So you didn't read it......

You heard that it's been ripped apart.

Have you got a link to the fact check site?

Does your Google not work.

Isn't that the new standard?

I read links when they are supplied......

The pre rollout trials showed 1 in 800 chance of a serious adverse event.....it has not been ripped apart unless you can show otherwise.

Only they didn't.

The problem is when you quote a figure from conspiracy sites without making any effort at fact checking.

sciencebasedmedicine.org...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: alldaylong

Wallies are false teeth were ScepticScot is.

I starred this one.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

"Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults"

Wel done. However that is one of study that has been fairly comprehensively ripped apart for several reasons.

Not least because they gave the risk by counting numbers if SAEs , not numbed of people affected.

If you google the study name that comes up as well...

It's only ripped in your mind and understanding. Try not to copy paste whatever you see online when at the same time you haven't read any other papers and you have claimed there are thousands that support the narrative. Partially true though as they are getting funded by the pharmaceuticals and other nefarious interests.

Therefore they are CANCELLED!!!

Yes only the studies (tiny number) that you think agree with your position are valid.

Your arguments have been refuted.

Let's see the facts again.

Deaths due to the vaccine
Debilitating conditions due to the vaccine
Severe adverse reactions due to the vaccine
Withdrawal of the vaccine from most countries


Hardly a success story and hardly the miracle of science as it has been described by the press and the journalists who themselves played a crucial role in propagating misinformation and disinformation all along.

Are you still arguing the AZ vaccine has not been cancelled in the UK?

The UK opted to use MRNA vaccines going forward.

According to you they are worse.

So your logic is again? Tha's right there wasn't any.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

"Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults"

Wel done. However that is one of study that has been fairly comprehensively ripped apart for several reasons.

Not least because they gave the risk by counting numbers if SAEs , not numbed of people affected.

If you google the study name that comes up as well...

It's only ripped in your mind and understanding. Try not to copy paste whatever you see online when at the same time you haven't read any other papers and you have claimed there are thousands that support the narrative. Partially true though as they are getting funded by the pharmaceuticals and other nefarious interests.

Therefore they are CANCELLED!!!

Yes only the studies (tiny number) that you think agree with your position are valid.

Your arguments have been refuted.

Let's see the facts again.

Deaths due to the vaccine
Debilitating conditions due to the vaccine
Severe adverse reactions due to the vaccine
Withdrawal of the vaccine from most countries


Hardly a success story and hardly the miracle of science as it has been described by the press and the journalists who themselves played a crucial role in propagating misinformation and disinformation all along.

Are you still arguing the AZ vaccine has not been cancelled in the UK?

The UK opted to use MRNA vaccines going forward.

According to you they are worse.

So your logic is again? Tha's right there wasn't any.

Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: ScepticScot

"Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults"

Wel done. However that is one of study that has been fairly comprehensively ripped apart for several reasons.

Not least because they gave the risk by counting numbers if SAEs , not numbed of people affected.

If you google the study name that comes up as well...

It's only ripped in your mind and understanding. Try not to copy paste whatever you see online when at the same time you haven't read any other papers and you have claimed there are thousands that support the narrative. Partially true though as they are getting funded by the pharmaceuticals and other nefarious interests.

Therefore they are CANCELLED!!!

Yes only the studies (tiny number) that you think agree with your position are valid.

Your arguments have been refuted.

Let's see the facts again.

Deaths due to the vaccine
Debilitating conditions due to the vaccine
Severe adverse reactions due to the vaccine
Withdrawal of the vaccine from most countries


Hardly a success story and hardly the miracle of science as it has been described by the press and the journalists who themselves played a crucial role in propagating misinformation and disinformation all along.

Are you still arguing the AZ vaccine has not been cancelled in the UK?

The UK opted to use MRNA vaccines going forward.

According to you they are worse.

So your logic is again? Tha's right there wasn't any.

Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

Word of the day calendars are great aren't they.

a reply to: alldaylong

Let's see the facts again as the facts speak for themselves:

Deaths due to the vaccine
Debilitating conditions due to the vaccine
Severe adverse reactions due to the vaccine
Withdrawal of the vaccine from most countries


Hardly a success story and hardly the miracle of science as it has been described by the press and the journalists who themselves played a crucial role in propagating misinformation and disinformation all along.

Are you still arguing the AZ vaccine has not been cancelled in the UK?

I am still waiting the link where you have claimed the AZ vaccine is still available in the UK

a reply to: ScepticScot

You are engaging in vaccine apologetics and want us to justify the paranoic vaccine campaign?! Are you serious?!

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: alldaylong

Let's see the facts again as the facts speak for themselves:

Deaths due to the vaccine
Debilitating conditions due to the vaccine
Severe adverse reactions due to the vaccine
Withdrawal of the vaccine from most countries


Hardly a success story and hardly the miracle of science as it has been described by the press and the journalists who themselves played a crucial role in propagating misinformation and disinformation all along.

Are you still arguing the AZ vaccine has not been cancelled in the UK?

I am still waiting the link where you have claimed the AZ vaccine is still available in the UK

Another copy paste post.

a reply to: ScepticScot


Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

Are you still claiming the AZ vaccine hasn't been cancelled in the UK?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

Are you still claiming the AZ vaccine hasn't been cancelled in the UK?

Something doesn't make sense.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

Are you still claiming the AZ vaccine hasn't been cancelled in the UK?

Something doesn't make sense.

Yep! You are on the right path.
It's the paranoic vaccine campaign and the entire response to the pandemic.

Has it taken you that long to realise it?!

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

Are you still claiming the AZ vaccine hasn't been cancelled in the UK?

Something doesn't make sense.

Yep! You are in the right path.
It's the paranoic vaccine campaign and the entire response to the pandemic.

Has it taken you that long to realise it?!

There is certainly a realisation of something.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
It's a bit sad when these threads turn into an echo chamber with folk discussing other posters rather than the thread topic.

You are somehow correct on this one. Instead of discussing the failed AZ vaccine and the fact it has caused of debilitating conditions and deaths and hence had been cancelled in the UK and pretty much most countries that have used it in the past, some members are trying to divert and go off topic by engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality.

Attention Please -

Apparently, the earlier warning in this thread was not clear enough. If your post includes an opinion about or insult towards another member, you are on the edge of being Posting Banned. What part of all opinions are allowed and welcome no matter what side of a debate is taken is hard to comprehend?

Trying to force others to agree with you by flinging insults or innuendo is adolescent behavior at best. Knock it off! If you are incapable of keeping your debate civil it would be best if you find another thread or topic where you can control yourselves.

Posting Bans will happen very soon and this thread will be closed if it does not stop. Do not reply to this post.

a reply to: alldaylong


Still you have failed to address the topic of this thread and you are constantly trying to go off topic. You made a claim that the AZ vaccine is still used in the UK and gave a link that cannot be opened. Unless you have any evidence, which I doubt you do, your argument has been refuted.

Not only isn't available in the UK but it has been cancelled and there are court proceedings against them. There could be more in the future.

It's much worse than it seems.

A failed vaccine
People who have died and seriously harmed
Withdrawn of the product from most countries that have used it
Court proceedings against Astrazeneca
And more are coming in the future.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: ScepticScot


Yes the vaccine campaign is paranoic. That's true. You don't expect any reasonable decisions


They have cancelled the AZ vaccine and they have allowed the mRNA products but at least they don't offer them to those under the age of 75 anymore. (unless they have health issues as they say).

You are quite correct it doesn't make any sense. But if you have a paranoic campaign there would be no sensibility after all.

Are you still claiming the AZ vaccine hasn't been cancelled in the UK?

Something doesn't make sense.

Yep! You are in the right path.
It's the paranoic vaccine campaign and the entire response to the pandemic.

Has it taken you that long to realise it?!

There is certainly a realisation of something.

Yes the realisation is quite clear

A failed vaccine
People who have died and seriously harmed by this product
Withdrawn of the product from most countries that have used it
Court proceedings against Astrazeneca
And more are coming up in the future

Not the best success story.



You don't seem to have made any comments in relation to the failed vaccine, the woman who has died as a result of 'doing her part', or her husband who is now taking Astrazeneca to courts.

a reply to: ScepticScot

I find it odd that a very recent John Campbell video was taken down.......but his video about the study I mentioned (posted 3 months ago) is still there on yt.

If, in your opinion, he was spreading misinformation 3 months ago, then surely it would have been taken down.

It's funny how the deniers have zero empathy. It's all about ignoring and denying even thought it's accepted that people have died from the vaccine.