Documents Detailing Secret U.S.-Ukraine War Plan Against Russia Leaked on Social Media

The leaked images, documents appear to be authentic.
There had being several users on twitter which were banned for simply leaking the leaked images/documents according to some reports on twitter.

According to the one of the documents, Russians had suffered lower casualties than Ukraine.

In one of the NATO/US documents.

Russia 17.5k KIA.
Ukraine 71.5k KIA.


Documents Detailing Secret U.S.-Ukraine War Plan Against Russia Leaked on Social Media

The comments on that site are comical and it appears most haven't paying attention while they are cheering for their side because the media says so.

Now this is interesting. They even admit the leak

I expect much much more soon. It would seem someone wants to expose an agenda whatever that might be

Snowden2.0?

One mans win is another mans 5 weeks old documents just released with numbers altered for propaganda purposes.

They got stolen and altered.

Why they mobilising cooks and teachers when they only got 17 k losses ?

This is a weird one. So blatantly fake, I have to wonder which side did it and why? You realize that it would mean only around 43 Russian KIA per day on average? Across a front stretching thousands of kilometers, with tens of thousands artillery shells fired every day. But even the number for Ukraine seems a bit low.

a reply to: vNex92

Numbers seem a bit low imo.

I've been hearing reports of Ukrainians being kidnapped and forced into service and that they've been suffering casualties averaging 1000 personnel per day for months on end.

Which means this could be western propaganda downplaying the devastation suffered in Ukraine or...the info I got stating Ukraine running out of trained soldiers and forcing civilians into service was propaganda by Russia and picked up and ran with by some very qualified and credible but duped experts in the US.


I'm gonna go with the first option, and I'm betting the leaker will not only never be found, the US won't even launch a manhunt for the 'traitor' and this story will fade away hoping to have had the desired effect on civilians still desperate to believe the lies being pawned off under the sleepy eye of the Biden administration.

a reply to: 19Bones79

I find it intriguing that you never side with the west.
Not saying they are a saint just stating an observation.
Maybe one to look into on your end and reevaluate how you look at conflicts.
For instance in this conflict. Obviously we are going to see high causality counts on both sides.
But for a country mostly evacuated in many major flash point cities and having record number of citizens that already have or are leaving the country right now is holding g the line barely is pretty freaking impressive.
And now that Russia has been pulled into a trap what do you think is about to happen in some key cities?
Look at the available to the public manifestos of types of armaments going to Ukraine.
Obviously the west knows man to man Ukraine can't win.
Unless they get some help. Which they already are getting.
Russian economy will collapse before the west let's Ukraine fall.

I am not arguing that the Ukraine didnt take losses , they probably have well over 100.000 at this point too.

But the Russian numbers don't add up , not when they are using mobilisation and the use of convicts through wagner.

They should have enough reserves in active duty personel to get the job done.

why are they not deployed ? but poorly trained conscripts get send into warzones even professional soldiers would have a difficult time in.

Totally unnecessary to sacrifice those dudes and the equipment when you should still have professional soldiers.

a reply to: TheGreazel

To start off.
Since the start of Russia's SMO in 2022.

Ukraine nearly had at least around 2,000 tanks. Majority of these tanks were all tanks donated to Ukraine. During and before the conflict.

What happened to all those tanks? and other vehlics?

By the sounds of it, it appears that the Russians had destroyed them.

They should have enough reserves in active duty personel

The enough reserves were just randomly picked off the streets? including those who didn't want to fight due to a medical reason?

originally posted by: TheGreazel
One mans win is another mans 5 weeks old documents just released with numbers altered for propaganda purposes.

They got stolen and altered.

That´s what the MSM in the faulty western world tries to tell us peasants now. Understandable, if i would be the one who´s documents were leaked then i would try to tell everybody that these documents exist but got altered and nothing of all the information there is real because of that. A last desperate attempt to somehow avert a complete total loss.

First sign of a big lie is that the whole corrupt propaganda MSM reports at the same time the same BS in all the involved western nations. Everybody should know that, at least since "Corona"!

originally posted by: TheGreazel
I am not arguing that the Ukraine didnt take losses , they probably have well over 100.000 at this point too.

But the Russian numbers don't add up , not when they are using mobilisation and the use of convicts through wagner.

They should have enough reserves in active duty personel to get the job done.

why are they not deployed ? but poorly trained conscripts get send into warzones even professional soldiers would have a difficult time in.

Totally unnecessary to sacrifice those dudes and the equipment when you should still have professional soldiers.

Keep in mind who is "fighting" against who there. WEF-puppet Selenskyi vs WEF-puppet Putin. It´s a freaking show with unfortunately real peasant soldiers and civilians as victims, to make it look really real. I said it over a year ago, these two puppets will extend that show as long as this show can be used to excuse the negative effects of the great transformation, the Great Reset.

That´s why the strategical pretty useless battles around and in a city like Bachmuth are drawn out in length and hyped by the especially western proganda MSM, all eyes on Bachmuth please. While nobody notices that countless "reporters and journalists" report day by day from the Ukraine and in the background from where they report, everything is as normal as in Germany, for example. In around 70 or 75% of the Ukraine there is no sign of war. That war happens where the Azov-Nazi troops tried to commit ethnic cleansing, where they wanted to wipe out everything that is russian since 2014. Somehow nowhere else in the Ukraine, what the freaking f is that for a "war"?

It´s no war, it´s at best a "wag the dog"-war, it´s a show to hide the biggest crime against humanity that started with "Corona", to have excuses for the negative effects of trying to establish a NWO after the ideas and plans of the worlds most greedy, anti-human and megalomaniac money bags. It´s a nice tool to have an excuse for the redistribution from the bottom to the top.

Sometimes the most obvious explanation is the one that really hits the mark. Does this "theory" not explain a lot? And is it really only a theory or is it a plan, an agenda, executed in plain sight?

a reply to: vNex92

I have no doubt most if not all of Ukrainian armor vehicles they had prior to 2014 have been destroyed.
Since then they have relied heavily on artillery to mitigate those losses.
Most of the new armor they have is hidden.
Only small arms and munitions for those and artillery is being dispensed.
Well that and drones.
Just think for sencond

a reply to: vNex92

I will say if this offensive doesn't work as planned then what happens next will be interesting.
I would imagina if it fails Ukraine will be forced to accept the Crimea region to be not theirs anymore through Russia aggressively militarily invading a sovereign nation.
But like I said the West won't let that happen.
We have the power to stop all trade.
You do not.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

I don't know why you think the war should be happening everywhere at once. There's a front line. Russia can't just magically teleport their troops wherever they want.

a reply to: vNex92

Gotta read first then reply , i said just above your post I expect Ukranian casualties to be well over 100.000.

There is no need for that discussion because the Ukranian losses have been huge.

The enough reserves were just randomly picked off the streets? including those who didn't want to fight due to a medical reason?

Not sure who you refering too here.

The numbers don't match the recruitment policy , there is no need for Russia to deploy people who never seen battle when they should have enough active duty soldiers.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

No your theory is just that, a theory.
And one not really based on any facts.
The flash point happened originally in 2014 at very strategic point of interest.
Not because of some neo nazi faction and the crap they do.
That is pure Russian propaganda mate.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Sometimes the most obvious explanation is the one that really hits the mark. Does this "theory" not explain a lot? And is it really only a theory or is it a plan, an agenda, executed in plain sight?

It is interesting for sure , but a lot of things can go wrong in a plan like that especially with nuclear superpowers involved.

If they are all in cahoots wich each other and some one strays from the planned path , things could get messy real quick.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

I find it intriguing that you never side with the west.

Anybody who has read even 10% of my threads will know this to be patently false.


Your move.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: vNex92

I will say if this offensive doesn't work as planned then what happens next will be interesting.
I would imagina if it fails Ukraine will be forced to accept the Crimea region to be not theirs anymore through Russia aggressively militarily invading a sovereign nation.
But like I said the West won't let that happen.
We have the power to stop all trade.
You do not.

Ummm…please do keep up…the trade between the west and Russia…increased…in 2022 and 2023…

The west…IE. Europe and the US continue to buy Russian oil and gas…and most other Russian commodities…

Russias trade with the rest of the world…IE. the other three fifths of the human population on the planet…has dramatically increased during that time frame as well…

Factor in that most of the rest of the world…including all of the heavy hitters are currently dropping the US dollar as the reserve currency…we are witnessing the collapse of the petro dollar…this includes former US Allies and a large percentage of Europe…

Bear in mind as well that…the rest of the world…is also creating their own banking and transaction systems to rival and replace SWIFT in transactions between nations…


You are witnessing the decline and fall of western empire…the world is moving on into a multipolar expression trade…and governance…


Please do keep up…






YouSir

a reply to: vNex92


The source given doesnt give any numbers around deaths. The only reference to casualties taken from the article is "Military analysts stated that some original documents which document Ukrainian and Russian casualties have been modified behind a Moscow disinformation effort."

Where did you come.up with your specific numbers?

I rarely do this (or it's never my intention to) but I am going to respond to this OP without even reading the source.

Reason: I want to share something about this kind of "leak" that I believe could be very relevant to its content, at last I found it so in my opinion.

I believe that:

• We are subject to a set of operating regimes which control every information channel available;
  
• We know that the hallmark of the most prominent players in information control is their reliance on think tanks (NGOs, "commissions," "councils," "alliances," and other unaccountable groups; )
  
• What is valued here is the "sentiment" of those bearing the burden for the material support of this war (citizens of many nations; )
  
• We are hostages of information gatekeepers, who can, have, and do keep secrets in pursuance of their agendas;
  
• Such "content" must never be accepted solely by virtue of source;
  
• a defining feature of "leaks" is that they are unattributed; and
  
• the more important the information, the more influence will be applied to have it interpreted in a very specific way.
  

I'm going into this, looking at it like a 'story.' Someone says... that someone said...

I'm sorry if that doesn't address some specific aspects of what has been discussed so far. But I already sense bias in the responses (not a criticism) so I hope when on comment on the information, you might keep in mind that I am not contradicting anyone, challenging anyone's sense of partisanship, or engaging in apologetics as a matter of debate.