Why do Christians Believe that Politicians are doing God’s Work ?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

So you don’t believe or support the 1st Amendment.

Kay

You are mixing made made rules up with biblical teachings. Im not a Christian in any worldly definition & yes in America there is a 1A .
If tomorrow there is no 1A , the role of a Christian according to the whole Bible would to be submissive to that law .
You know just as the Bible teaches : here is a list that supports my stance . www.openbible.info...

I don't think you are familiar with the Bill of Rights.

They restrict government, not people.

You are two islands over in this debate. You are arguing things that are not part of my question. It’s about Christian’s & what their bible calls them to do through god . It has nothing to do with a right they have or don’t have in men’s laws.

Who do you know that speaks for all Christians?

The very book that unites them all is very clear about submitting to authority wether it is good or bad that our rulers do . Read the bible & you tell me DB .
So by default if you call yourself a Christian , then the Bible speaks for you . You are confusing your will vs what god told you in his bible that he made sure was the true authoritative word of himself.

No.

You don't get to determine my faith or how I interpret it.

how you interpret is the problem.

I am so glad you are here to tell me how to interpret my faith.

*whew*

No problem, anytime !

a reply to: SecrettoSociety

This one is for you.

Just happens to address this exact issue.

originally posted by: network dude
can you show where you got this information from that "Christians" think this way?

www.rollingstone.com...

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

This one is for you.

Just happens to address this exact issue.

Thanks , interesting video . I agree that Christians are called the NOT be of this world & my point is , how is voting for rulers of the world NOT being of the world ?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

So you don’t believe or support the 1st Amendment.

Kay

You are mixing made made rules up with biblical teachings. Im not a Christian in any worldly definition & yes in America there is a 1A .
If tomorrow there is no 1A , the role of a Christian according to the whole Bible would to be submissive to that law .
You know just as the Bible teaches : here is a list that supports my stance . www.openbible.info...

I don't think you are familiar with the Bill of Rights.

They restrict government, not people.[/quote
www.rollingstone.com...

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: network dude
can you show where you got this information from that "Christians" think this way?

www.rollingstone.com...

LOL, thanks, that explains it perfectly.

What does Mother Jones say?

Oooooooo, you are getting so close as to why your pre-supposition is wrong, all on your own understanding.

It's because we are running the race..
Until we go home this is where we are.

So tell me more of your biblical understanding.
The story of the vineyard owner applies here.
Do you want to share your understanding of it's relevance to add insights to your inadequate interpretation or do you want to Google it first so you can tell us that are discerning?
It addresses for you, why we, vote.
But it does not say vote.
It just addresses ownership and stewardship.

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

This one is for you.

Just happens to address this exact issue.

Thanks , interesting video . I agree that Christians are called the NOT be of this world & my point is , how is voting for rulers of the world NOT being of the world ?

Forget what politicians are doing. Been a Christian all my life, and not always a very good one, but to anyone out there who wants to be a part of God's kingdom, he's calling you now with the greatest love for all, but you have to say YES if you want it.
Easter Sunday is a special day.

I also have never met a Christian who thinks politicians are doing God's work.

Idk, I think the Capitalists/Facists and the Socialist/Communists would hate Jesus. For one, he would be screwing with numbers and taking yer jobs like living 3D printer. Everything would be worthless due to abundance.

Then he would be bigger then the state, a not sharing his power with everyone along with having known problems with authority a disturbing the peace of mind.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: SecrettoSociety

originally posted by: network dude
can you show where you got this information from that "Christians" think this way?

www.rollingstone.com...

LOL, thanks, that explains it perfectly.

What does Mother Jones say?

Mother Jones is far far progressive for my likes . If you don’t agree with the Rolling Stone article , I suggest you research the pastors Trump keeps in his circle . They are all bats#it crazy & they believe Trump is divine in his crusade . Trump is a foul disgusting man who said the right things to white evangelicals for votes . That’s why he picked that dope Pence as his VP .
How could any Christian vote for Trump or Biden , let alone any politician ?!

a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Trump surrounds himself with people who agree with him. It's his "thing". Why can't you just discuss the topic? Debate the facts?

Rolling Stone has no idea what "Christians" think anymore than I know what drives Progressives to want open borders and lawless cities. If you wish to believe what they say as representative of what "Christians" think, why not just get your thinking points from Mother Jones?

And if I'm wrong on what progressives think, having a progressive explain to me what part of that is incorrect and why would go a long way.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I also have never met a Christian who thinks politicians are doing God's work.

So is this just more fake news?


religionnews.com...

This is the exact reason I left the church and became the cynical bastard I am.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I also have never met a Christian who thinks politicians are doing God's work.

So is this just more fake news?




religionnews.com...

This is the exact reason I left the church and became the cynical bastard I am.

I don't need to read some news to know and will not. There are always a few zealots trying to do something, but that does not make it God's work, it is only their work.
Maybe it feels like fake news to you, but from my honest eyes, politicians are most all doing the work of the devil. You can even bear witness to it by looking at the state and condition of EVERYTHING that politicians touch to know that it is even scientifically verifiable and repeatable to witness that their work is the works of wickedness.

When you dig deep enough you find that today's politics are the deep state high priests of the secular religions of Canaan and Canaanites.
Blood sacrifices and all.
The destruction of innocence is of their highest priority.
Religiously

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I also have never met a Christian who thinks politicians are doing God's work.

So is this just more fake news?




religionnews.com...

This is the exact reason I left the church and became the cynical bastard I am.

I don't need to read some news to know and will not. There are always a few zealots trying to do something, but that does not make it God's work, it is only their work.
Maybe it feels like fake news to you, but from my honest eyes, politicians are most all doing the work of the devil. You can even bear witness to it by looking at the state and condition of EVERYTHING that politicians touch to know that it is even scientifically verifiable and repeatable to witness that their work is the works of wickedness.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I also have never met a Christian who thinks politicians are doing God's work.

So is this just more fake news?

religionnews.com...

This is the exact reason I left the church and became the cynical bastard I am.

No it is not fake news but. The report was from 2019, but I think it is worse today. I live in an area where many of the people have been mesmerized by Trump.

I have quite a number of people that I love, that support Trump, and yes, they are Christians. But having said that, I don’t think any of them believe that any politician, including Trump, is doing God’s work. They see Trump more like a Caesar. They know he is doing man’s work.

Personally, I am not a fan of Trump, I think Trump is doing Trump’s work. I don’t think for one second that it is possible for Trump to care about anyone but himself. He thinks he is the chosen one, and his cultish followers believe him and think he is what he says he is.

I don’t believe everyone that supports Trump is cultish or a bit touched, but there are enough that this pastor felt a need to speak out.



I think Trump is a pure narcissist. He can’t help himself. His only concern is self. He is going to do what pleases Trump. If that also pleases you, then you will have no problem. But it is not for God, country, or the people. It is for Trump.

For the record.
I do not support Biden.
I am not a Democrat.
I am not a Rhino.
I am not a Republican.

I identify as a Dictionary, so you can call me anything. Try to be creative.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

Trump surrounds himself with people who agree with him. It's his "thing". Why can't you just discuss the topic? Debate the facts?

Rolling Stone has no idea what "Christians" think anymore than I know what drives Progressives to want open borders and lawless cities. If you wish to believe what they say as representative of what "Christians" think, why not just get your thinking points from Mother Jones?

And if I'm wrong on what progressives think, having a progressive explain to me what part of that is incorrect and why would go a long way.

Have you ever looked into the insanity of the Christian leaders Trump associates with ? They are goofier than a s#it house rat .

a reply to: SecrettoSociety

no, I really don't spend that much time worrying about Trump. Not sure if you are aware, but he's not in office right now. A guy named Joe Biden is, and we have some serious issues going on with him currently. If Trump comes back, I'll return my attention to him again. eye on the ball, so to speak.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I also have never met a Christian who thinks politicians are doing God's work.

So is this just more fake news?

religionnews.com...

This is the exact reason I left the church and became the cynical bastard I am.

No it is not fake news but. The report was from 2019, but I think it is worse today. I live in an area where many of the people have been mesmerized by Trump.

I have quite a number of people that I love, that support Trump, and yes, they are Christians. But having said that, I don’t think any of them believe that any politician, including Trump, is doing God’s work. They see Trump more like a Caesar. They know he is doing man’s work.

Personally, I am not a fan of Trump, I think Trump is doing Trump’s work. I don’t think for one second that it is possible for Trump to care about anyone but himself. He thinks he is the chosen one, and his cultish followers believe him and think he is what he says he is.

I don’t believe everyone that supports Trump is cultish or a bit touched, but there are enough that this pastor felt a need to speak out.

I think Trump is a pure narcissist. He can’t help himself. His only concern is self. He is going to do what pleases Trump. If that also pleases you, then you will have no problem. But it is not for God, country, or the people. It is for Trump.

For the record.
I do not support Biden.
I am not a Democrat.
I am not a Rhino.
I am not a Republican.

I identify as a Dictionary, so you can call me anything. Try to be creative.

Right on

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: SecrettoSociety

no, I really don't spend that much time worrying about Trump. Not sure if you are aware, but he's not in office right now. A guy named Joe Biden is, and we have some serious issues going on with him currently. If Trump comes back, I'll return my attention to him again. eye on the ball, so to speak.

Yes , Biden is a monumental disaster.