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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: network dude
in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)
So, looking into it all most of the numbers we see come from goodsciencing.com and those are pulled mostly out of blogs and other unsearchable sources. When people and other journalist investigate many of these people are not even vacced, or have longer history of issues. This is not to say the vaccines have caused zero issues, just that there is a lot of hyperbole going on that doesn't help in the least.
if you try to get the truth, try it without looking for vaccine. Look at raw data, find out if there really is a big uptick in people falling out. Once that's verified, THEN look at reasons why. To either dismiss it or scream this is the smoking gun is premature. Until the data is compiled it's not.
originally posted by: Grenade
Source?
Why did you leave out the year when most vaccines were administered?
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
I notice you left out 2020 and 2021 .
originally posted by: Grenade
That’s a list of players who’ve died on the pitch and doesn’t account for the massive increase in the number of cardiac events and players collapsing. As I said, anyone who watches football can see it clear as day and any denial is just that, ignoring facts.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Xtrozero
Not really, i just see an increase in these events. It started with Christian Erikson and then various other high profile players collapsing on the pitch. Like i said, anyone that watches football can confirm this isn't my imagination. Even a couple of Premier League matches had to be stopped due to cardiac arrests from fans in the stadium. There was one match that had two.
Here's just some examples from elite football in England:
Fans and players suffering cardiac events
No surprise the medical industry and governing bodies who essentially forced these injections onto players were quick to defend vaccines.
originally posted by: WizardVanWizard
I wonder if the near-ubiquity of ever-evolving PEDs has something to do with the athletes' collapses.
originally posted by: WizardVanWizard
I wonder if the near-ubiquity of ever-evolving PEDs has something to do with the athletes' collapses.