21 Videos Of Collapsing Musicians And TV Personalities Live On Air Since April 2021

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)

There is a chart out there, I have seen it. I will see if I can find it. What happened in the last two years, took decades to happen prior if I remember correctly...

ETA:

To put things into perspective, a 2006 scientific study conducted by the International Olympic Committee out of Lausanne, Switzerland, reported 1,101 sudden deaths among athletes under age 35 between 1966 and 2004. This number works out to be roughly 29 sudden deaths among athletes worldwide per year for 38 years.

Not the article I was looking for, but there is a link to the study in the article. Source

a reply to: Xtrozero

There were likely different formulas and amounts used, as it was supposedly a test. There are strict safety standards that have always been used before approving vaccines. It takes years. Most of my friends did not receive the vaxx, and they all lived except one guy. He had gotten into all kinds of drugs, including meth, and had been a heavy drinker at the same time. Even before he was sick, he looked terrible, and acted strange. His health was poor, and he was even missing his front tooth due to meth.

There was no emergency. My dad is 96 and didn't get the shot, because of his heavy medical background from Stanford, and his internship at hospitals in San Francisco, Oakland, and Los Angeles. He was always put in charge of the labs because of his expertise in Bacteriology, Chemistry, and microbiology. He was always previously pro vax to the max. That ended in 2020 when he saw safety standards violated, improper testing, and massive amounts of vax reportedly made in such a short time. They likely already had it made up long before, like possibly before the virus was released.

It is my hope that you and others on ATS received either a placebo, or a very weak dose. I understand your position on this. I would want to believe it was ok too. It would be devastating for the public to be told that there was a terrible mistake made, or those we trusted mislead people to thin the population or harvest money for future vax related medical procedures. I wis you good luck on this and hope for the best. In the Tribulation, something causes people worldwide to serious health issues, and this could easily fit that profile.

a reply to: Klassified

Ty for that article proves my point about estimated vs excess deaths. Which are counted for in yearly estimates based off historical records, and population growth. Excess deaths wouldn't include those people.

originally posted by: Klassified

To put things into perspective, a 2006 scientific study conducted by the International Olympic Committee out of Lausanne, Switzerland, reported 1,101 sudden deaths among athletes under age 35 between 1966 and 2004. This number works out to be roughly 29 sudden deaths among athletes worldwide per year for 38 years.
Not the article I was looking for, but there is a link to the study in the article. Source

originally posted by: visitedbythem

It is my hope that you and others on ATS received either a placebo, or a very weak dose. I understand your position on this. I would want to believe it was ok too. It would be devastating for the public to be told that there was a terrible mistake made, or those we trusted mislead people to thin the population or harvest money for future vax related medical procedures. I wis you good luck on this and hope for the best. In the Tribulation, something causes people worldwide to serious health issues, and this could easily fit that profile.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not super pro vaccine. I have said many times that no one under 50 and healthy should have gotten it due to the very nature of how rushed it was. I also am not getting boosters because of the whole risk to reward part just doesn't make it worth it due to how weak the virus seems to be now. I'm vacced and had COVID so I'm good unless something really nasty comes along. I don't get flu shots either.

The reason why I seem so pro vaccine is because of the crazy hyperbole that goes on and on and on. I don't think we need it, but fear porn sells and so here we are. Somewhere in the middle is the truth to it all, and my gut feeling is that spike protein is just bad juju with the vaccine or virus and so there has been higher risk from the vaccine for young people not needed since COVID wasn't much of anything to them. This doesn't mean that there has not been people who greatly benefited from the vaccine either.

There is enough bad with what the Government did at the fed and state levels and the total BS Fauci vomited daily for like two years now I think we have enough already.

I also don't like explaining away things with maybe a lower dosage, or placebo as that is like explaining why UFOs are not around us because of a secret Government coverup. Just made-up excuses because so much doesn't fit the narrative that the vaccine is killing everyone.

a reply to: frogs453

Sigh. A 15 second search looking for prior to 2018.

Looking through your own"search" that you , evidently , did not go through with due diligence :
1) Most results are 2021 or later . You would have known this with just a small amount of reading .
2) The rest , from before 2021 , are mostly the same few stories from different outlets. Including the reason being "too much alcohol" .

Your post debunked.

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: Klassified

Ty for that article proves my point about estimated vs excess deaths. Which are counted for in yearly estimates based off historical records, and population growth. Excess deaths wouldn't include those people.

originally posted by: Klassified

To put things into perspective, a 2006 scientific study conducted by the International Olympic Committee out of Lausanne, Switzerland, reported 1,101 sudden deaths among athletes under age 35 between 1966 and 2004. This number works out to be roughly 29 sudden deaths among athletes worldwide per year for 38 years.
Not the article I was looking for, but there is a link to the study in the article. Source

So I looked into this 1966 to 2004 "deaths among athletes" that has been repeated 10,000 times with the whole vaccine thing and in 1980 they showed like 8 deaths, 1966 is like 1 or 2 and starting in 2005 like 120 deaths, so the per year thing is BS. I really can't find much past that, but it seems the number started to really jump up starting in 1995/96 time frame so if 115 was 2006 what would be 2019 as a norm before the Pandemic, honestly, I can't find anything other than in a 2019 article I read that it was 2 per 100,000, no worries hand gliding was like 1 in 560...lol

John Hopkins says there are 30 million youths per year that play on sport teams with 15% getting injured enough to see a doctor. If in 2019 they said 2 per 100,000 then that would be 600 per year by the time 2006 rolled around to 2019.

If the OP yells "1200 dying while in the middle of competition in the last 2 years." I need to ask is that outside of the norm?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: Klassified

Ty for that article proves my point about estimated vs excess deaths. Which are counted for in yearly estimates based off historical records, and population growth. Excess deaths wouldn't include those people.

originally posted by: Klassified

To put things into perspective, a 2006 scientific study conducted by the International Olympic Committee out of Lausanne, Switzerland, reported 1,101 sudden deaths among athletes under age 35 between 1966 and 2004. This number works out to be roughly 29 sudden deaths among athletes worldwide per year for 38 years.
Not the article I was looking for, but there is a link to the study in the article. Source

So I looked into this 1966 to 2004 "deaths among athletes" that has been repeated 10,000 times with the whole vaccine thing and in 1980 they showed like 8 deaths, 1966 is like 1 or 2 and starting in 2005 like 120 deaths, so the per year thing is BS. I really can't find much past that, but it seems the number started to really jump up starting in 1995/96 time frame so if 115 was 2006 what would be 2019 as a norm before the Pandemic, honestly, I can't find anything other than in a 2019 article I read that it was 2 per 100,000, no worries hand gliding was like 1 in 560...lol

John Hopkins says there are 30 million youths per year that play on sport teams with 15% getting injured enough to see a doctor. If in 2019 they said 2 per 100,000 then that would be 600 per year by the time 2006 rolled around to 2019.

1200 deaths. Try looking again, this has been covered over and over again.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

1200 deaths. Try looking again, this has been covered over and over again.

Your own words were 1200 deaths in two years... That is 600 per year my friend.

a reply to: Xtrozero

You're conflating professional sports deaths with overall deaths of people involved in sports. There's a distinction to be made in that comparison.

originally posted by: Grenade

You're conflating professional sports deaths with overall deaths of people involved in sports. There's a distinction to be made in that comparison.

I don't see professional used in the article, I see "young athletes", so are you saying 1200 professional athletes died in the last 2 years?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

21 videos, and 19 of them are women collapsing. What's that ~90% women?

a reply to: Gothmog

Actually if you look at the dates they go back to 2013? There was one with the weather lady from last week, but this is not new for her since it started happening in 2014 due to a leaky heart valve.

But it wouldn't matter if there were 100 videos I'm guessing. Either way, your post stated it never happened before and whether it's 1 video or 100, that statement is incorrect. It's happened and not a "sudden" new thing.

a reply to: Xtrozero

No, I'm saying there's been a clear increase in the number of cardiac events within professional sports. As i said i follow football mainly, and anyone who claims there isn't an increase is deluding themselves. It was almost unheard of within the top European leagues until 2020. There's no data for comparison as it simply didn't happen enough to warrant generating statistics.

Here's one from this weekends matches.

Footballer suffers Cardiac Arrest - 25th March

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Gothmog

Actually if you look at the dates they go back to 2013? There was one with the weather lady from last week, but this is not new for her since it started happening in 2014 due to a leaky heart valve.

But it wouldn't matter if there were 100 videos I'm guessing. Either way, your post stated it never happened before and whether it's 1 video or 100, that statement is incorrect. It's happened and not a "sudden" new thing.

Pointing out a few odd exceptions to the OP's statement is not proving a point , Of course it's not completely new but for sure it is not something that happened on a common basis before a 2020 .

Yes Sports Athletes have died in the past , But not in these numbers . Trying to normalize these sudden deaths is not the proper course , your itching to say it's not the Vaccine and perhaps your right BUT none the less there has been a steady if not dramatic rise in sudden deaths and strokes across the board.

Stop concentrating on proving it's not the Vaccine and just pay attention to the actual Death Statistics .

originally posted by: Grenade

No, I'm saying there's been a clear increase in the number of cardiac events within professional sports. As i said i follow football mainly, and anyone who claims there isn't in increase is deluding themselves. It was almost unheard of within the top European leagues until 2020. There's no data for comparison as it simply didn't happen enough to warrant generating statistics.

OK thanks, I was commenting on the OP's numbers, but anyhow there might be a correlation I just haven't dug deep into it to look. So, it looks like 20 in 2021 and 7 in 2022 out of around 130,000 professional world football players. 10 in 2019, 9 in 2018, 11 in 2017, 13 in 2016 and 12 in 2015 and only 3 in 2020 with the lock downs.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Gothmog

Actually if you look at the dates they go back to 2013? There was one with the weather lady from last week, but this is not new for her since it started happening in 2014 due to a leaky heart valve.

But it wouldn't matter if there were 100 videos I'm guessing. Either way, your post stated it never happened before and whether it's 1 video or 100, that statement is incorrect. It's happened and not a "sudden" new thing.

You still haven't looked , have you ?
I don't know enough to defend either position , I just Deny Ignorance when I see it .

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

on the news tonight, a pop concert has just been canceled due to the sickness of the performer at the last minute. Another section said that ambulance callouts have gone up three times since 2019. So it is getting fairly obvious things haven't even started to get better.

Well, since this is ATS I thought I would toss out that there could be a supernatural angle to Covid 19 and vaxx injuries.

Putting it as simply as possible from a religious angle it appears the Apocalypse actually has been running from at least 1948 when Israel became a nation. Per Matthew 24 it appears the Apocalypse has several layers to it. The first being the "generation" statemen of verse 24-34. Assuming a generation lives around 80 years roughly then it appears the first layer is a 80 year time period that started in 1948.

The second layer appears to be the 7 year agreement layer that will start 7 years out from the end. Then the 3.5 years of the Antichrist. So based on the 3 days statement of John 2 then the 7 year layer starts in 2026. And the 3.5 year layer starts in 2029. With the end of it all being April of 2033.

So based on that you have to consider that Covid 19 and the vaccines are all part of the 4th Horseman prediction.

Revelation 6

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Just saying from the religious viewpoint it's looking rather bad actually. Like being in a tornado watch and seeing green and black clouds in the west.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: network dude

in the interest of facts, and reality, it would be good to see this same data set over a several year period so we can filter out the normal from the abnormal. My paycheck is the same regardless of the outcome, so I'm hoping for real facts and truth. I'm not fearful of either answer, I hope others would be the same, rather than dig in and ignore facts. (both sides)

So, looking into it all most of the numbers we see come from goodsciencing.com and those are pulled mostly out of blogs and other unsearchable sources. When people and other journalist investigate many of these people are not even vacced, or have longer history of issues. This is not to say the vaccines have caused zero issues, just that there is a lot of hyperbole going on that doesn't help in the least.

if you try to get the truth, try it without looking for vaccine. Look at raw data, find out if there really is a big uptick in people falling out. Once that's verified, THEN look at reasons why. To either dismiss it or scream this is the smoking gun is premature. Until the data is compiled it's not.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow


Yes Sports Athletes have died in the past , But not in these numbers .

So last year 2022 there was 7 that died on the field for football/soccer and in 2016 13 died, 2017 11 died, 2018 9 died and in 2019 10 died all before the vaccine.

So is it more, or are people just hyper focused today than before the vaccine? There are a lot of thought experiments where people are unaware of something, and they say well all of sudden this has happen when the reality is it is about the same as always and it just they are more aware of it now.

I'm not saying the vaccine did not have any casual here, the more we learn about spike protein the more we can determine, but as I have said many times, the virus has spike protein too, soooo

If in 2019 they calculated 2 out of 100,000 players in school sports die due to heart conditions, and that come to 600 per year roughly, then it is not new, but people didn't really focus on it until the vaccine rolled out.