One year in, no end it sight.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lazarus Short

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Timber13

But sadly by doing this, we've only sealed our status as the world's bully.

By "we" I guess you mean America when in reality it isn't America who started the war nor is it America who are the only country standing up to the aggressor , the UK has been at the forefront of the European response.

Ukraine is the aggressor. Do you even recall that Ukraine has been making war on its eastern citizens since 2014? Russia's patience ran out.

That is what Russian propaganda says.

"Everything I disagree with is ________!!!"

-every -ism, ism, phobe
-misinfo
-disinfo
-propaganda

*yawn*

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Just more money for the Machine.

They dont make tons of money by finishing wars, which is why they tied our hands and didnt allow us to do what we were trained to do in Iraq and Afghanistan

Putting an end to things within 6 months to a year doesnt make billions like 20yrs of conflict

I know this.
You know this.
Most folks center-left historically knew this.


Something has changed.....

a reply to: xuenchen

China releases 12-point peace plan for Russia-Ukraine war.

Is that the same China that has illegally occupied Tibet for the last 70 years?

The words " Peace " and " China " do not go together.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Lazarus Short

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Timber13

But sadly by doing this, we've only sealed our status as the world's bully.

By "we" I guess you mean America when in reality it isn't America who started the war nor is it America who are the only country standing up to the aggressor , the UK has been at the forefront of the European response.

Ukraine is the aggressor. Do you even recall that Ukraine has been making war on its eastern citizens since 2014? Russia's patience ran out.

That is what Russian propaganda says.

"Everything I disagree with is ________!!!"

-every -ism, ism, phobe
-misinfo
-disinfo
-propaganda

*yawn*

No just the stuff that is propaganda.

If you like believing Russian lies knock yourself out.

a reply to: ScepticScot

By all means, source it.

Till then, canned NPC responses will be treated as such.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ScepticScot

By all means, source it.

Till then, canned NPC responses will be treated as such.

Source what. I wasn't the one making the claim

Your original free thinking is definitely shown by your use of 'NPC'...

a reply to: ScepticScot

You claimed it was propaganda, yes?

Your original free thinking is definitely shown by your use of 'NPC'...

...if it walks like a duck...

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ScepticScot

You claimed it was propaganda, yes?

Your original free thinking is definitely shown by your use of 'NPC'...

...if it walks like a duck...

The claim was made by the other poster.

Let them source it without using russian proganda.

Interesting that you claim I am discounting other opinions, while discounting other opinions. I believe projection is the term.

a reply to: ScepticScot

So, you believe it to be propaganda, but can't prove it.

Let me reiterate:

"Everything I disagree with is ________!!!"

-every -ism, ism, phobe
-misinfo
-disinfo
-propaganda

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ScepticScot

So, you believe it to be propaganda, but can't prove it.

Let me reiterate:

"Everything I disagree with is ________!!!"

-every -ism, ism, phobe
-misinfo
-disinfo
-propaganda

What his unsourced claim?

What did the ICJ say about Russian claims.

www.icj-cij.org...

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ScepticScot

By all means, source it.

Till then, canned NPC responses will be treated as such.

I guess you've never bothered watching any of the Russian Media Monitor videos I often post in the main ruZZian War thread then? great look at the ruZZian propaganda tsunami... its a great look at the ruZZian perspective at the top and how they happily lie and contradict themselves even within the same sentences over and over.

From the numerous street interviews brave (young) people are doing in ruZZia, its also the same perspective shared by a lot of the (older) denizens of Moscow/St Petersberg and the rural regions... which shows they don't get their info from any other source than state/party media.

If you have watched them and still believe the stuff they say in the ruZZian state media as truth then... well... **shrug** your tolerance for digesting BS is commendable.

Both sides have propaganda sure... but both aren't in anyway equal, believing the ruZZian propaganda over the western version is like saying you believe the guy down the pub who said he had conversations on Altair 5 with Robwix the grey alien about becoming the Earths next president... over the other guy at the pub who said he saw a strange light in the sky once.

The thing is, everyone here on ATS that supports ruZZia or putler, either through direct support or through saying 'we got to have peace, just give ruZZia what they want', oddly seem to buy and or parrot a lot of the ruZZian state media talking points.

You talk of 'NPCs', but all I see is vatnik/tankie bot farms... as for canned responses, its funny how saying something logical and sound, over and over is considered 'canned' of coarse it sounds canned, you cant say it any other way. How can any of us anti ruZZia people frame it differently?

Although, i don't expect this to be read... after all you've mentioned being unable read what i type due to atrocious spell mistakes... **makes a quick note of all the spelling errors minus the deliberate ones like 'ruZZia' in the post**... oh look, none. 10$ they still won't read it.

a reply to: BigfootNZ

That thread carries as much weight as the Q thread


Smelling flatulence isnt my thing.

Tell me, this "if/then" argument you keep trying to make. Does it work? Do you think you can levy a false dichotomy in attempts to shame me to your media generated POV?

Something is going to break..

WASHINGTON — The number of Russian troops killed and wounded in Ukraine is approaching 200,000, a stark symbol of just how badly President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion has gone, according to American and other Western officials.

www.nytimes.com...

The losses for the Ukraine has to be just as bad.

Funny how there is always money for Drugs, smokes, alcohol, and weapons.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ScepticScot

So, you believe it to be propaganda, but can't prove it.

Let me reiterate:

"Everything I disagree with is ________!!!"

-every -ism, ism, phobe
-misinfo
-disinfo
-propaganda

What his unsourced claim?

What did the ICJ say about Russian claims.

www.icj-cij.org...

Here, lemme help.

An example of propaganda:

Ukraine is hosting one of the great epics of this century

❝We are Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na’vi and Han Solo. We’re escaping from Shawshank and blowing up the Death Star. We are fighting with the Harkonnens and challenging Thanos.❞

Source of said propaganda...

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ScepticScot

So, you believe it to be propaganda, but can't prove it.

Let me reiterate:

"Everything I disagree with is ________!!!"

-every -ism, ism, phobe
-misinfo
-disinfo
-propaganda

What his unsourced claim?

What did the ICJ say about Russian claims.

www.icj-cij.org...

Here, lemme help.

An example of propaganda:

Ukraine is hosting one of the great epics of this century

❝We are Harry Potter and William Wallace, the Na’vi and Han Solo. We’re escaping from Shawshank and blowing up the Death Star. We are fighting with the Harkonnens and challenging Thanos.❞

Source of said propaganda...

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the claim made.

a reply to: JinMI
It's Starting to Come Out...


It's pretty sad when our 'enemy' gives a speech and it is the speech I wish our side gave. I agree more with Putin than I do Biden or any of the criminals pushing this 'war'.
We ARE the baddies.

This war lasts decades if not more.

a reply to: alldaylong

And what is British doing in Falklands? If China is occupying Tibet, then the same can be said Britain occupy Falklands.

Of course, Trump is president again next year which means not a single bullet for Ukraine. Nevertheless, Ukrainians will keep fighting and keep dying until it is so depopulated it can't fight anymore but that takes decades.

originally posted by: KunLunZuiQuan
a reply to: alldaylong

And what is British doing in Falklands? If China is occupying Tibet, then the same can be said Britain occupy Falklands.

The Falklands have always been British. Argentina didn't even exist as a country when Britain occupied them.

Sorry to disappoint you.