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Ukraine is a battle for future of democracy Biden.

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posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:34 PM
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Remember when they said to you the people we the people, the public how they lied to use about the previous wars?

They also said that the fight in Iraqi was about for freedom and democracy.
They also lied and claimed that the fight in Afghanistan was about democracy.


For the past 20 years that fight for democracy in Afghanistan was not about democracy.
Now they lie to you about Ukraine.

Instated visiting the damaged areas of Ohio due to the Ohio chemical disaster.
Now the desperation on Ukraine is showing.

Simply the US lost in Syria and Afghanistan..


Biden says fight in Ukraine is a battle for future of democracy



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:39 PM
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America's definition of bringing Democracy to foreign countries means Martial Law awaits them. Just think of the Philippines under Marcus dictator.
How can America bring its current form of Democracy when people in Congress get thrown in the mental ward after a few days in Congress.
No country should ever believe this crap about America is bringing you freedom. Mexico probably has more freedom then Americans these days.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: vNex92
Remember when they said to you the people we the people, the public how they lied to use about the previous wars?

They also said that the fight in Iraqi was about for freedom and democracy.
They also lied and claimed that the fight in Afghanistan was about democracy.


For the past 20 years that fight for democracy in Afghanistan was not about democracy.
Now they lie to you about Ukraine.

Instated visiting the damaged areas of Ohio due to the Ohio chemical disaster.
Now the desperation on Ukraine is showing.

Simply the US lost in Syria and Afghanistan..


Biden says fight in Ukraine is a battle for future of democracy



Its a battle against Tyranny.... Tyrant = Putin.
Nothing more or less.

Russia should be ashamed of itself.. allowing Putin to completely and utterly Brainwash the Russian public.
Russia started the war not the West, By attacking Ukraine ( unprovoked ), one year ago.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: rigel4




Its a battle against Tyranny.... Tyrant = Putin. Nothing more or less.

No its battle agaisnt the Russian people and Russians you Western never liked the Russian people nor their culture to begin with.

I had seen quite the racist, disgusting comments towards the Russian people on twitter.



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posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: rigel4
America has no problem with Supporting Tyranny.... Tyrants.Saudi Arabia is example of this.

The same Saudi Arabia which US had being supporting over the war in Yemen causing massive starvation on its civilian population.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: rigel4

I think there is more to this "slow" war. Russia could wipe out all military installations in less then 24 hours. The reason is that both countries are using this as a training ground and using up old fashion military hardware.
The moment, real military hardware is going to be used... Like Putin said... I will use and go nuclear if being attack in Russia. This war or war scrimage is just a practice ground. Today on Japanese news it showed both countries where the restaurants are filled and people enjoying all the snow.
By the way the news shows a better economic real growth then America as it sits behind the TV and collect govt. handouts. In Russia, the govt handout is roughly $200 a month for those that qualify. Also, Russia makes its own coke soda now and you can still by Dr. Pepper soda there. I do think though if I heard right that the Dr. Pepper is made in Mexico.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 09:58 PM
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Russia started the war not the West, By attacking Ukraine

America and West started the war agaisnt Russia by using Ukraine agaisnt Russia and Russians. First with the Regime Change in Kiev.


Victoria Nuland gives food for demonstration people in Ukraine



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: rigel4




Russia started the war not the West, By attacking Ukraine ( unprovoked ), one year ago.

The US/West started the war in Ukraine. What the US is doing in Ukraine is no different from what the US is doing in Kosovo in the Balkans, and Taiwan.

The US is doing Twain agaisnt China.


You dont seem to like the idea of the US losing its US hegemony status on the world stage.
While the US wants everyone to be under one world goverment, the US is the one that pushes this world order.


You can dislike the Chinese gov.



When it comes the wars and conflicts the US arent innocent.


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posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: rigel4



Russia started the war not the West, By attacking Ukraine

America and West started the war agaisnt Russia by using Ukraine agaisnt Russia and Russians. First with the Regime Change in Kiev.


Victoria Nuland gives food for demonstration people in Ukraine




The people of Russia have support for its country, Americans currently are full of anger due to all the corruption where trust in the US government is diminishing .



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:04 PM
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Lol thread.. mods please move to lol bin.

We westerns as you put it have nothing against Russian people.
Your words betray your hate.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:27 PM
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have nothing against Russian people


Decolonizing Russia
American state officials had being publicity calling out a complete Decolonization of Russia. Do you know what word means?

There are two wordings for it, the destruction of a state/nation and genocide.





Lol thread

It seems you have nothing to add when i posted that video of Victoria Nuland in Kiev during the regime change protests which the US started in Ukraine to remove a democratically elected goveremnt of Ukraine.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: rigel4

When leftists say democracy, they mean authoritarian Marxism.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: vNex92


I had seen quite the racist, disgusting comments towards the Russian people on twitter.


The year is 2023….

Humans are experiencing immense physical and emotional pain from letters arranged into words distributed by twitter.

The damage is irreparable.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Jokes on you then!

I can barely read English, let alone Cyrillic.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: vNex92


The US/West started the war in Ukraine.


The US used their mind control 5g waves to take control of Putin and make him send hundreds of thousands of Russians into Ukraine.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 10:55 PM
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Ukraine a fight for democracy ?????

When Zelensky has banned:
- all opposition parties
- all opposition media
- even churches

How is that democracy?

This is DICTATORSHIP



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 11:04 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: vNex92


The US/West started the war in Ukraine.


The US used their mind control 5g waves to take control of Putin and make him send hundreds of thousands of Russians into Ukraine.


No, they used nation building and NATO encroachment as provoacation.

Biden even outlined exactly how they did it back in 1997 at the Atlantic Council.

Kinda like how he and Nulin said what would happen to NS2....



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Ukraine wasn’t a true NATO prospect. The bylaws prevented it. At best them joint the EU could seen a defacto.

But in either case. I think it’s extremely debatable since Ukraine elected a leader who promised during his campaign to join the EU. It’s the same guy who made a back room deal wihh the Putin.

The argument is then, do sovereign countries have free will, or should sphere of influence leaders be able to dictate. And if we’re critical of the US doing that, which is fair, the same logic should be used for Russia.

Did the US force all former USSR countries to lean left? Or did they decide to? Why does Russia only have a handful of allies if they’re so morally sound?

I think it’s an interesting thought experiment.

Even with the Budapest memorandum, I think we’re getting too involved… but I’m not about to feel sorry for Russia.



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 11:22 PM
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Ukraine wasn’t a true NATO prospect. The bylaws prevented it. At best them joint the EU could seen a defacto.


I know that, you know that and Nato knows that.
Zelensky?



But in either case. I think it’s extremely debatable since Ukraine elected a leader who promised during his campaign to join the EU. It’s the same guy who made a back room deal wihh the Putin.

The argument is then, do sovereign countries have free will, or should sphere of influence leaders be able to dictate. And if we’re critical of the US doing that, which is fair, the same logic should be used for Russia.


When Ukraine leadership allowed Mccain, Graham, Biden and Nulin to play in their social/economic/political issues, that sovereignity is at best, just a word. At worst, they sold it to people who have and had only personal financial gain as motivations.



Even with the Budapest memorandum, I think we’re getting too involved… but I’m not about to feel sorry for Russia.


Me either, however Im not russian and dont really care about russia more than to leave them alone.
Nato expansion has been the sticking point and it plays a large role as to why russia invaded

Moreover, what our govt is doing in our names has always been my point



posted on Feb, 21 2023 @ 11:24 PM
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America is the tyranny ...how many countries has it invaded ... How many civilians did America bomb in the name of freedom ? America has not answered for its decades and decades of war crimes... Why are so many vets who served in Afghanistan and Iraq committing suicide ?
I was at a medical conference in Mexico ...one of the topics was PTSD ...there was some vets from the states speaking a large chunk of the PTSD was what they did to innocent civilians they were so ashamed of it and the penny dropped for them when they realised they were being used and cast aside after and heavily medicated to stay quiet..meanwhile the military takes a new batch of young men to do the same to them and the cycle goes on .... Sure maybe Russia is tyrany but America has not right to speak
Hypocrisy
The democracy ....what has America ever brought to the so called countries it brought freedom to ? Death and misery
Demoncracy
There is no law on this world ... All governments are corrupt... There is no good vs evil when it comes to countries ...
The propaganda served to the American public is not better then Putin. If anything at least Putin is a coherent functional person ..can't say that about Biden
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