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A mother has been denied the opportunity to receive a heart transplant because she is not vaccinated for COVID-19, despite having a medical exemption.
Vicki Derderian, from Melbourne, relies on a ventricular assist device to keep her heart functioning after it failed in 2020, and is desperate for a transplant.
Ms. Derderian, a mother of two, expressed her frustration with the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services for their stance, which she characterized as “no jab, no heart.”
The hospital stance at the moment is no jab, no heart. I‘m ready to be on the heart transplant list because medically I’m stable to be on it. But unfortunately, because of these mandates, it has interfered with patient-doctor relationships,” she told Channel 9’s Today show.
“Patients like myself, we‘re being pushed into a corner and coerced to take something that goes against what we believe in. Or not receive lifesaving treatment. And also for doctors as well, they are forced to implement this on their patients otherwise they’ll lose their jobs.”
From a transplant physicians point of view… the biggest risk to you when we hit your immune system like that if you get Covid-19 without having the vaccine, then there‘s a really significant risk that you’ll die and that organ will die with you,” Dr. Coatsworth said.
And we don‘t want that to happen to you and we certainly don’t want it to happen to the family whose made that sacred donation. So it is such a complex area. I don’t envy your decision, but I do standby the rules of the transplant physicians have made here.”
originally posted by: Compliant
Did they test her for antibodies, as she may have contracted the virus and acquired that little thing called natural immunity .
No, of course they wouldn’t do that. Immunity only exists once you’ve been injected with MRNA.
originally posted by: Compliant
Did they test her for antibodies, as she may have contracted the virus and acquired that little thing called natural immunity .
No, of course they wouldn’t do that. Immunity only exists once you’ve been injected with MRNA.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: Compliant
Did they test her for antibodies, as she may have contracted the virus and acquired that little thing called natural immunity .
No, of course they wouldn’t do that. Immunity only exists once you’ve been injected with MRNA.
Naaaah!
I don't think so.
Just as some vaccine apologists said in other threads prior to vaccinations people couldn't develop a proper immune response and were not even developing antibodies. Vaccinations came to save the world as it seems...
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
Logic and common sense must be restored in Australia and the rest of the World and the Pharmaceuticals must be held accountable for the crimes have been committed over the past 3 years.
originally posted by: Compliant
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Not developing antibodies or developing an immune response? If that is the case then shouldn’t the ‘unvaccinated’ all be dead by now.
Interesting to point out that all these years natural immunity has been ignored or played down. Yet the WHO now claim that ‘hybrid immunity’ is the gold standard of protection.
Yep, you guessed it, a combination of ‘natural immunity’ with a few injections thrown in.
www.forbes.com...
originally posted by: Compliant
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Not developing antibodies or developing an immune response? If that is the case then shouldn’t the ‘unvaccinated’ all be dead by now.
Interesting to point out that all these years natural immunity has been ignored or played down. Yet the WHO now claim that ‘hybrid immunity’ is the gold standard of protection.
Yep, you guessed it, a combination of ‘natural immunity’ with a few injections thrown in.
www.forbes.com...
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
"From a transplant physicians point of view… the biggest risk to you when we hit your immune system like that if you get Covid-19 without having the vaccine, then there‘s a really significant risk that you’ll die and that organ will die with you,” Dr. Coatsworth said.
"And we don‘t want that to happen to you and we certainly don’t want it to happen to the family whose made that sacred donation. So it is such a complex area. I don’t envy your decision, but I do standby the rules of the transplant physicians have made here.”
Section 37 of the Human Rights Act 2019 says that: Every person has the right to access health services without discrimination. A person must not be refused emergency medical treatment that is immediately necessary to save the person's life or to prevent serious impairment to the person.
originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Time to show up at the hospital with several thousand people until they cave.
This gets my blood boiling.
They should be in prison for these mandates and this lady should be receiving proper care.
Coming back to the conversation, healthcare including surgeries, are not subject to vaccinations. Either vaccinated or unvaccinated for whatever diseases the patient must received the best possible healthcare regardless of whether they have vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2, influenza, or whatever other virus and bacterium.