Two or MORE potential spy balloons are being monitored by US military - with one airborne over Canad

originally posted by: darkbake
My guess is they are cylindrical balloons.

However - there have even been military sightings of UFOs with documented footage, so they are out there. And if Biden's administration suddenly took interest for once in what is flying in our airspace, which would make sense with the Chinese balloon, they would probably shoot down some UFOs.

I'm still waiting for the Alaska debris, it has been 24 hours, don't like the wait-till-morning stuff either in Montana.

Crazy night regardless,

whats the chances we are just war gaming ourselves since we were so inept during known China balloon stuff

There has to be a small possibility we are doing this to test ourselves...

apnews.com...

F-22 fighter jets have now taken out three objects in the airspace above the U.S. and Canada over seven days, a stunning development that is raising questions on just what, exactly, is hovering overhead and who has sent them.

At least one of the objects downed was believed to be a spy balloon from China, but the other two had not yet been publicly identified. While Trudeau described the object Saturday as “unidentified,” a NORAD spokesman, Maj. Olivier Gallant, said the military had determined what it was but would not reveal details.

Trudeau said Canadian forces would recover the wreckage for study. The Yukon is westernmost Canadian territory and the among the least populated part of Canada.

Just about a day earlier, White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said an object roughly the size of a small car was shot out of the skies above remote Alaska. Officials couldn’t say if it contained any surveillance equipment, where it came from or what purpose it had.

Kirby said it was shot down because it was flying at about 40,000 feet (13,000 meters) and posed a “reasonable threat” to the safety of civilian flights, not because of any knowledge that it was engaged in surveillance.

a reply to: putnam6

The alien variety, not minty fresh

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: putnam6

The alien variety, not minty fresh

Now we are talking LOL...let grab a beer and go down that road a bit...

I'm aware of alleged reports that UAPs/UFOs in the past have disrupted power and communications at nuclear ICBM sites in the past.

Not only in America but the then-Soviet Union.

It would make sense if the TIC TACS are the culprits and we can t stop them, that we would constantly test and drill for those same types of outlines of targets

a reply to: putnam6

Sounds good my friend

I was wondering who else was thinking along those lines, reminds you a little of the Lt. Salas incident and a mess of others where they flipped our missiles to the "take a nap" position!

Do you think there is a shot this is some kind of red flag deal? Maybe unannounced or something?

I wonder if the Montana might be related to refueling aircraft or similar?

I just can't shake that bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. Whatever happens take care of yourself putnam6. I have been watching this news real closely

originally posted by: glend
Perhaps the government wants you all to look into the skies instead of looking at the price of food and fuel.

-OR-

Have we seen photos of ANY of the UFO's after the CHINESE BALLOON displayed itself to the country for several days....making a fool of US's "leadership"?

These UFO's may ALL BE FAKED by US/CAN, just to lessen how CHINA made Biden and Trudeau look so bad with their huge balloon giving both countries the middle finger, moving and hovering in the middle of our airspaces, conducting SPY work...day, after day, after day, after day, after...

We need to SEE what was viewed, or found on the ground, after being shot down.

Well there's an excuse (they'll never use).

I'm not really spying, think of me as a gaseous voyeur.

Oh, silly us, carry on.

Has a 2nd "object" been shot down over Canada?

originally posted by: Violater1
Has a 2nd "object" been shot down over Canada?

Hell It difficult to keep track, last I heard we had one down in Canada, one off the coast of Alaska and of course the ones off Myrtle Beach

but I just came across this check it out, what are your thoughts here?


twitter.com...

I've always wondered why nobody sends spy balloons over the Amazon?

a reply to: putnam6

If this were just a "test of our readiness" to resist, and/or shoot down extraterrestrial interloper, the military would not use live weapons (missiles). Nor would they need to take the risks associated with any type of live fire.

And, so far, none of the shoot downs far involved "bogies"(?) that demonstrated the type of flight dynamics the reported UAP's have exhibited. Snipers don't train to make 1000 yard shots by plinking watermelons at 20 feet, do they?


ETA:

I sincerely hope that the source of these "unidentified floating beer cans" is found to be terrestrial.

I would hate to think that our first response to an extraterrestrial entreaty is to shoot down their emissaries.

So much for being considered a "Mostly Harmless" planet.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: putnam6

Sounds good my friend

I was wondering who else was thinking along those lines, reminds you a little of the Lt. Salas incident and a mess of others where they flipped our missiles to the "take a nap" position!

Do you think there is a shot this is some kind of red flag deal? Maybe unannounced or something?

I wonder if the Montana might be related to refueling aircraft or similar?

I just can't shake that bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. Whatever happens take care of yourself putnam6. I have been watching this news real closely

History has taught us there is always something going on behind the scenes.

You said red flag, do you mean false flag? there are seemingly lots of red flags here it could be China, Russia, Our own government's false flag, and the aforementioned aliens. to varying percentages of chance.

Don't think we can take any scenario off the table yet, but Im leaning towards Russia seeing the fervor over the China balloon starts pumping out their inventory of cylindrical weather/spy balloons they would have no problems launching them if they knew the prevailing winds. Which may or may not be cylindrical because that's the classic UFO tic tac shape, which would add to our confusion and or miss identification.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: putnam6

If this were just a "test of our readiness" to resist, and/or shoot down extraterrestrial interloper, the military would not use live weapons (missiles). Nor would they need to take the risks associated with any type of live fire.

And, so far, none of the shoot downs far involved "bogies"(?) that demonstrated the type of flight dynamics the reported UAP's have exhibited. Snipers don't train to make 1000 yard shots by plinking watermelons at 20 feet, do they?

Just pondering and spitballing here not taking any scenarios off the table yet. I'll believe we were splashing bogies when I see the cock pit cam videos and the chase planes or drone video. So far we got one down off Myrtle Beach and they still haven't released the cockpit video. the less transparent they are the less believable the story

Don't give me any stuff about it's classified when during Desert Shield and Desert Storm and all the other operations in Iraq, Kuwait, and Afghanistan were routinely shown. Most times with much more sophisticated weapons in action than a sidewinder on an F-22. Hell, we saw footage from the F-117s and most times within a few days of the event.

a reply to: putnam6

From what's been reported, I think that the spy balloon that was brought down in Myrtle Beach and the two "objects" just shot down are "apples" and "oranges".

The spy balloon was identified, to the extent that countermeasures were taken until the balloon was shot down. Since both the Chinese know, and the US has a good idea, what intelligence that balloon was capable of gathering, there is little reason to censor pictures and information of the recovered debris.

Unless, there was something "unexpected" on board that neither party wants the American public to know about.

My guess would be something radioactive, but not intentionally explosive.


The (now) two objects shot down over the north are completely different animals, altogether. As yet their purpose has not been clearly ascertained; it is assumed that they were intelligence-related, but only because they displayed no other obvious purpose. They displayed no purpose whatsoever.


In the case of the objects, "national security", if invoked won't be due to how, or what assets were used to bring the objects down, but because the technology incorporated into the objects themselves is too valuable to disclose outside the military intelligence arena.

originally posted by: Terpene
Mapping out the command chain for aerial threats?

In times of spy satelites balloons are laughable...

Exactly, which is why the balloon hysteria is laughable.

But so far, no one knows if the latter two objects shot down were balloons or something else. The whole thing has serious UFO flap vibes.

originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

originally posted by: Terpene
Mapping out the command chain for aerial threats?

In times of spy satelites balloons are laughable...

Exactly, which is why the balloon hysteria is laughable.

But so far, no one knows if the latter two objects shot down were balloons or something else. The whole thing has serious UFO flap vibes.

You got that right!

NOT identifiable craft at all!: redstate.com...

Has there been any news on a recovery operation? I've heard nothing since the news broke on Friday

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: putnam6

From what's been reported, I think that the spy balloon that was brought down in Myrtle Beach and the two "objects" just shot down are "apples" and "oranges".

The spy balloon was identified, to the extent that countermeasures were taken until the balloon was shot down. Since both the Chinese know, and the US has a good idea, what intelligence that balloon was capable of gathering, there is little reason to censor pictures and information of the recovered debris.

Unless, there was something "unexpected" on board that neither party wants the American public to know about.

My guess would be something radioactive, but not intentionally explosive.


The (now) two objects shot down over the north are completely different animals, altogether. As yet their purpose has not been clearly ascertained; it is assumed that they were intelligence-related, but only because they displayed no other obvious purpose. They displayed no purpose whatsoever.


In the case of the objects, "national security", if invoked won't be due to how, or what assets were used to bring the objects down, but because the technology incorporated into the objects themselves is too valuable to disclose outside the military intelligence arena.

I agree the Chinese spy balloon and the cylindrical likely don't originate from the same source.

Hell, you see the official story is NORAD just adjusted the filters and now they are seeing bogies everywhere.

a reply to: putnam6

Which is pretty much what happens. Radar can detect flocks of birds as a target. The computer filters out a lot of data as invalid because it’s too small, or moving too slowly, or a bunch of other factors. Remove the filters and now you’re looking at all that data in addition to the good data.

Probably some pranksters who are using the moment to pull a couple of stunts... because, why not?