SpaceX should choose between Ukraine and Russia: Ukrainian official

originally posted by: Timber13

Be peaceful and people will treat you peaceful.

That's what the ethnic Russian Ukrainians had been doing in Eastern Ukraine for generations. The Ukrainian Nazis didn't like their way of life and brought war to them so its not as easy as you say.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: putnam6

It's not just the thing with Starlink. That's just the most overt action he's taken. For the past few weeks Musk has been retweeting the most blatantly obvious Russian propaganda.

I don't know rarely get on Twitter except for breaking news.

but I don't give much credence to Twitter comments, 30=40% were bots another 10-15% are fake accounts.

Besides, he can say what he wants to, but if it annoys enough people, they will leave Twitter and not support his other endeavors.

I'm told people in Crypto hate him with an unusual passion too, and at that time he gave them lousy advice on something he should have known about. So why expect him to be some bastion of knowledge now?

Wealthy people are known to have a disconnect, celebrities most times have disconnected from the real world.

SpaceX's principal is space cannot be militarized. Satellites cannot be used for war. So it makes sense Elon pulled the plug on the Ukrainian army for using Starlink. If the US government arrest Elon then it gives him the excuse he was looking for to move to China where the money is.

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned
We will see. Longevity will speak for it..Capitalism can really steal the heart from a thing..I probably shouldn't have called the weasel inbred.a reply to: M5xaz

Capitalism is what raised living standards throughout the last 100 years.

Communism, on the other hand, spread nothing but poverty, human misery and mass murder.
100 million DEAD +
en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=Mass%20killings%20under%20communist%20regimes%20occurred%20through%20a%20v ariety%20of,genocides%20or%20crimes%20against%20humanity.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Timber13

Be peaceful and people will treat you peaceful.

That's what the ethnic Russian Ukrainians had been doing in Eastern Ukraine for generations. The Ukrainian Nazis didn't like their way of life and brought war to them so its not as easy as you say.

They have not been there for generations. they showed up when th eformer president of ukraine was sent into exile in russia. And Nazis are traditionally german.Those are just fan boys.(russia uses them as well)

a reply to: putnam6

Starlink or Starshield?

"... was never meant to be weaponised".

Ah thats alright then. Thanks for the heads up Gwynne.

www.cnbc.com...

Capitalism is what raised living standards throughout the last 100 years.
Communism, on the other hand, spread nothing but poverty, human misery and mass murder.
100 million DEAD +

Unbridled capitalism creates monopoly, which the founding fathers were 100 percent against.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: putnam6

It's not just the thing with Starlink. That's just the most overt action he's taken. For the past few weeks Musk has been retweeting the most blatantly obvious Russian propaganda.

While I don't agree with everything Musk has said or done, just because he has values, doesn't mean its Russian Propaganda.
If Starlink is used as a military coms or to guide missiles/bombs, then its fair game to be attacked by Russia.
He could have pulled out entirely and disabled it completely for Ukraine - but he didnt.

originally posted by: Doxanoxa
a reply to: putnam6

Starlink or Starshield?

"... was never meant to be weaponised".

Ah thats alright then. Thanks for the heads up Gwynne.

www.cnbc.com...

Yes Nancy

Starlink was never to be weaponized

common sense says you would want a dedicated secure and limited access system for MILITARY communications instead of the widely available CONSUMER Starlink

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned

Capitalism is what raised living standards throughout the last 100 years.
Communism, on the other hand, spread nothing but poverty, human misery and mass murder.
100 million DEAD +

Unbridled capitalism creates monopoly, which the founding fathers were 100 percent against.

You are implying that the Founding Fathers were communists or socialists

Completely FALSE !

Communism has KILLED tens of millions.


Instead of spewing uninformed drivel, read a book sometime.

originally posted by: didntasktobeborned
Musk does NOT possess a pioneering spirit, he is NOT NASA, just a puppet war profiteer and meddler, Has absolutely no business representing the taming of the final frontier. I would like to have coffee with him just to look into those inbred eyes and tell him just how little business he has in space. He is embarrassing.

Maybe he just doesn't want to be a part of the war machine. Maybe he doesn't want what little sleep he does get, to be stained with the blood of innocent people.

Everyone has their own motive. You can't pretend to know his. Though I'd like to think it's just that he doesn't want blood on his hands. You have the right to think otherwise but I rather go with a more selfless stance towards a guy who's trying to come up with ideas to save the planet.

Make sense?

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Timber13

Be peaceful and people will treat you peaceful.

That's what the ethnic Russian Ukrainians had been doing in Eastern Ukraine for generations. The Ukrainian Nazis didn't like their way of life and brought war to them so its not as easy as you say.

There are dicks in every country, city, town, block on the planet. It's worse when a whole country is doing it. Live by example? I'm sure the people are twisted from the years of mental %#!kery. When a country continues to push those ideals, fund it, manipulate it... It's always from the top down. Russia is still to blame.

a reply to: putnam6

Sanctions are sanctions though. SpaceX, a U.S.-based company, siding with Russia over Ukraine would be a big mistake.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Timber13

Be peaceful and people will treat you peaceful.

That's what the ethnic Russian Ukrainians had been doing in Eastern Ukraine for generations. The Ukrainian Nazis didn't like their way of life and brought war to them so its not as easy as you say.

Please stop your BS about Nazis.

Russia has its fair share of Nazis, as does the U.S. Ukraine has about the same ratio and the Nazis are by no means the majority power in any of the three countries.

Also, the "ethnic Russian Ukrainians" is an oxymoron. These are Russians who moved to Ukraine during the USSR days and liked it and stayed when the collapse happened and now somehow for some reason what to stay Russian.

Kind of like how it chaps a lot of peoples' craws when the Mexicans move here and keep speking Spanish.

But the point remains that the east and Crimea are Ukrainian.

a reply to: GravitySucks

If the US government sanctions Elon then Elon move to China. China is the future. China is where the money is at.

a reply to: GravitySucks

I know for certain a lot of ethnic Russians moved to Ukraine during the Soviet times. Antonov, for example, was an ethnic Russian who moved to Ukraine and set up Antonov aerospace. An-225 was a beast of a plane. Biggest ever.

originally posted by: Timber13
Though I'd like to think it's just that he doesn't want blood on his hands.

Don't you realize he'll have blood on his hands either way? Don't be so naive.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Doxanoxa
a reply to: putnam6

Starlink or Starshield?

"... was never meant to be weaponised".

Ah thats alright then. Thanks for the heads up Gwynne.

www.cnbc.com...

Starlink was never to be weaponized

Elon Musk weaponized it. He's the guy in charge of that joint. Are you saying someone else told him not to?

It is against international law and treaty to weaponize space. Elon is doing the right thing.

a reply to: shaolinmonk

We're talking about the Starlink satellites being used for communication