U.S. Government Admits ‘5G Radiation Causes COVID-19’

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Have you read the conclusion

Conclusion

There is a substantial overlap in pathobiology between COVID-19 and WCR exposure. The evidence presented here indicates that mechanisms involved in the clinical progression of COVID-19 could also be generated, according to experimental data, by WCR exposure. Therefore, we propose a link between adverse bioeffects of WCR exposure from wireless devices and COVID-19.

Specifically, evidence presented here supports a premise that WCR and, in particular, 5G, which involves densification of 4G, may have exacerbated the COVID-19 pandemic by weakening host immunity and increasing SARS-CoV-2 virulence by ...

WCR exposure is a widespread, yet often neglected, environmental stressor that can produce a wide range of adverse bioeffects. ....

I have not said that this is fake, or denigrated the authors...

... only that the claim is of a statistical possibility... not a measured reality. They need to measure this in the real world and record the observed results... THEN they can say ... "this is actually happening", not just within the realm of possibility... until then the virulent (pun) opposition can just say 'risk' is not injury.

Frequencies could interfere with proper immune response. So technically, it could cause the SARS CoV2 virus to turn into Covid 19 because covid 19 is actually the improper immune response to the SARS CoV2 virus. When reading medical research information it is crucial to know to look at what they are referring to when they state Covid 19 being involved and sometimes Covid 19 is used by lots of people and of course dummies running the health agencies and the public to identify the virus and not the improper immune response. Because of this the interpretation of evidence is all messed up.

a reply to: Blaine91555

If you're moderating the thread I gave you information you said you couldn't find that would help you in doing so. This included that the video title is a fabrication, but that the peer reviewed article it was referencing exists. That the journal requires payment for publication isn't some kind of revelation and has been a widespread practice for decades. This is not a broadly disqualifying ethical issue, unlike industry interests funding the "independent" research that says their junk products are safe and effective.

If you're participating as a member then have at it, but I have no interest in serious discussion about this thread topic.

The implication that I was defending junk science because I didn't pile on logical fallacies is no less of a stretch than the video title claiming the government admitted something because it appears in a library they're affiliated with.

I will make again another comment as it seems there is plenty of confusion. When I created a similar thread a few months ago I did put down the link I am using here to discuss the paper as it is a peer-reviewed paper accepted in a reasonably good Journal and it is based on reviews of other peer-reviewed papers and the literature that has existed for a long time now.

Accusations of the authors are irrelevant and if anything they have no merits whatsoever. I didn't even know who the authors were and little attention I paid.

Those of you who are mistaken continuously or engaging in strawman arguments.

1) The paper does not claim that 5G causes Covid-19 disease. SARS-CoV-2 could cause Covid-19 disease. It is clear if you read the paper.

2) The authors are not making any claims of the properties of ionising radiation. It is again clear from the paper they have proposed some ways it could weaken the immune system and hence exacerbate the disease. If you disagree that's another matter.



Speaking of quackery and junk science one has to just look at the junk presented as science by Pfizer, Moderna, and the rest of the saviours of humanity. They sponsor, pay, and even write these publications themselves and find authors to put their name on their papers.

originally posted by: Maxmars

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Have you read the conclusion

Conclusion

There is a substantial overlap in pathobiology between COVID-19 and WCR exposure. The evidence presented here indicates that mechanisms involved in the clinical progression of COVID-19 could also be generated, according to experimental data, by WCR exposure. Therefore, we propose a link between adverse bioeffects of WCR exposure from wireless devices and COVID-19.

Specifically, evidence presented here supports a premise that WCR and, in particular, 5G, which involves densification of 4G, may have exacerbated the COVID-19 pandemic by weakening host immunity and increasing SARS-CoV-2 virulence by ...

WCR exposure is a widespread, yet often neglected, environmental stressor that can produce a wide range of adverse bioeffects. ....

I have not said that this is fake, or denigrated the authors...

... only that the claim is of a statistical possibility... not a measured reality. They need to measure this in the real world and record the observed results... THEN they can say ... "this is actually happening", not just within the realm of possibility... until then the virulent (pun) opposition can just say 'risk' is not injury.

Yes, I know your position.

Most of these papers are not placed in Journals with the sole purpose of pricing their hypotheses as that might be not possible. But mainly for discussion and further research on the subject which in this case I don't think it exists.

So far the main idea is that low frequency electromagnetic radiation is harmless for humans, animals and plants. But can you say this with certainty when not enough research has been conducted in this area.

In addition and as I said above, I have linked this paper for discussion because it appeared to be peer-reviewed and in a reasonably good Journal as well used a range of other peer reviewed papers to support their claims. The claims made by the authors are often misunderstood. There is no claim that 5G cause Covid-19 disease. The main theme is weakened immune systems via exposure to these types of radiation.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Specifically, evidence presented here supports a premise that WCR and, in particular, 5G, which involves densification of 4G, may have exacerbated the COVID-19 pandemic by weakening host immunity and increasing SARS-CoV-2 virulence by (1) causing morphologic changes in erythrocytes including echinocyte and rouleaux formation that may be contributing to hypercoagulation; (2) impairing microcirculation and reducing erythrocyte and hemoglobin levels exacerbating hypoxia; (3) amplifying immune dysfunction, including immunosuppression, autoimmunity, and hyperinflammation; (4) increasing cellular oxidative stress and the production of free radicals exacerbating vascular injury and organ damage; (5) increasing intracellular Ca2+ essential for viral entry, replication, and release, in addition to promoting pro-inflammatory pathways; and (6) worsening heart arrhythmias and cardiac disorders.

While I have no doubt that 5G is hazardous to our health (according to source stating it can cause cancer and 720 other diseases), did anyone else read the narrative above linked to the NIH and say to themselves, "This sounds like another government excuse/misdirection on the harmful effects of the Covid-19 vaccine?" Are we going to be bombarded with information that 5G is causing a substantial increase in heart palpations and heart attacks, and ultimately, unknown causes of death?

Scoff at the lack of evidence for harm from 5g but there was A) no consumer need for a new system yet B) they forged ahead installing 5g networks all over during the supposed pandemic while everyone else had to stay home.
Add 1 plus 1.

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Specifically, evidence presented here supports a premise that WCR and, in particular, 5G, which involves densification of 4G, may have exacerbated the COVID-19 pandemic by weakening host immunity and increasing SARS-CoV-2 virulence by (1) causing morphologic changes in erythrocytes including echinocyte and rouleaux formation that may be contributing to hypercoagulation; (2) impairing microcirculation and reducing erythrocyte and hemoglobin levels exacerbating hypoxia; (3) amplifying immune dysfunction, including immunosuppression, autoimmunity, and hyperinflammation; (4) increasing cellular oxidative stress and the production of free radicals exacerbating vascular injury and organ damage; (5) increasing intracellular Ca2+ essential for viral entry, replication, and release, in addition to promoting pro-inflammatory pathways; and (6) worsening heart arrhythmias and cardiac disorders.

While I have no doubt that 5G is hazardous to our health (according to source stating it can cause cancer and 720 other diseases), did anyone else read the narrative above linked to the NIH and say to themselves, "This sounds like another government excuse/misdirection on the harmful effects of the Covid-19 vaccine?" Are we going to be bombarded with information that 5G is causing a substantial increase in heart palpations and heart attacks, and ultimately, unknown causes of death?

Even if they try to do so nobody will believe them. I don't think we are going to be bombarded with this king of information as there is no research in the field apart from very few publications which are usually dismissed even if they have merits.

We all know the causes of excess numbers of non Covid deaths. And it's not climate change or the orbital speed of Earth.

originally posted by: Notabot12345666
a reply to: quickflash

David Icke called it first.
As much as he and Alex Jones have gotten right, I’m starting to think the Bidens are Lizard people

You lost me at David Icke.

U.S. Government Admits ‘5G Radiation Causes COVID-19’

I don't buy it.

I know for a FACT covid orginated in China-Wuhan.

I was watching religiously bitcoin price action that year and how the Chinese New Year was going to effect it.

a reply to: neo96

I have not been to China-Wuhan but I have heard that COVID originated there. I have also heard that it was about the same time that Wuhan got 5G.

5g-faqs.com...

Does Wuhan have 5G?

It’s true that Wuhan does have some 5G coverage. The local government listed a number of venues with 5G coverage in August 2019. We can’t find evidence it was the very first city with 5G but we’ve seen reports saying Wuhan was one of several Chinese cities where early 5G trials took place. Another said Wuhan was “one of the first pilot cities ...

news.sky.com...
From Thursday 22 December 2022

But three years to the week that the first patient was admitted to a Wuhan hospital with a "pneumonia of unknown origin", people are again getting sick.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3


Again, I don't really know who she is. In your opinion she cannot be taken seriously. That's fine. But that is not a valid argument I am afraid. Unless you can show why her publication doesn't have any merits. There are two authors on this paper. The other one is a radiologist.

I had the same opinion of Rubik I have in this one. I'm not sure what your point is. I provided sources to expose Rubik as I recall. No credibility there.

You asked me to prove one of Rubik's papers false which of course is a tactic used when someone is struggling in a debate. I continue to find anything Rubik is involved in as being highly questionable.

Why would a Radiologist be credible on this topic?

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Conclusion

There is a substantial overlap in pathobiology between COVID-19 and WCR exposure.

The problem with that kind of argument is it does nothing to prove anything. Correlation does not imply causation, and around and around we go.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Thanks for the interesting conversation. I think this topic has played out for me.

I don't know about that, but I do know that the 60Ghz frequency excites oxygen molecules.

www.rfglobalnet.com...

At the millimeter wave frequency of 60GHz, the absorption is very high, with 98 percent of the transmitted energy absorbed by atmospheric oxygen. While oxygen absorption at 60GHz severely limits range, it also eliminates interference between same frequency terminals.

I don't know what effects this could have on life, but I have some ideas.

First off, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Secondly, 5G has shown NO illness-causing effects in people, unless they are exposed to intense doses of it, from sitting directly in FRONT of the signal dish atop the tower for a 24 hr period. By the time the radio waves come into contact with anyone, they are virtually harmless. This sounds to me like someone that doesn't like 5G made an article trying to manufacture another reason for people to stand against it.

This is MY OPINION ONLY!

TheBorg :-D

"Every theory people had about Covid turned out to be true"

Oh, like how it was created in a lab leak AND somehow also made with 5G? Come on people. Get a grip. It can only be one or the other. You can't trust everything some guy who posts videos to the internet says. I've already caught him in a few outright lies.

Show some respect for yourself and don't be played like a sheep

originally posted by: TheBorg
First off, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Secondly, 5G has shown NO illness-causing effects in people, unless they are exposed to intense doses of it, from sitting directly in FRONT of the signal dish atop the tower for a 24 hr period. By the time the radio waves come into contact with anyone, they are virtually harmless. This sounds to me like someone that doesn't like 5G made an article trying to manufacture another reason for people to stand against it.

This is MY OPINION ONLY!

TheBorg :-D

Thank you my friend I agree.

Without doing any research can someone give me the "dumb down" version of...

how a radio wave can cause the flu?

It’s probably been mentioned…..but if not……I would think, to find out the effects of 5G on the human physiology, one would only need to do is a survey of the people living close by to the transmitting towers.

A person living near a tower may be able to correlate from the start date of the 5G transmitting service to when certain ailments started.

Even pre-existing ailments….could have been noticiebly heightened, inflamed…upon 5G becoming operational.

But if no one canvases by door to door of residents living near towers hosting 5G…..you’ll never know.

I figure the strongest of 5G energy power…..would be in close proximity to the towers transmitting vs the power receiving.

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