FDA admits that they haven't a clue what the "vaccines" are doing or how they work

Unless the pharma apologists can describe exactly how the mRNA vaccines work including why spike is found throughout the body when it's not supposed to then shut up and stop spreading disinfo.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

Vaccines are natural. That's probably why they aren't fully understood. Do you understand how a seed grows into a tree?

They grow the MRNA vaccines from bacteria, and use a genomic sequencer to compose the unique order of nucleotide bases (combination of G A T C).

Basically they just replicate the genetic code of the virus.

Not sure why people think increasing your exposure to the virus is supposed to help you... It reminds me of alcoholism... Increasing exposure increases your tolerance. But it doesn't mean you are immune to the damage caused by a substance that is harmful. It's just you get used to living with the pain.

This is the kind of abusive thinking that has persisted for centuries. Even here on ATS, I don't see anybody questioning this general philosophy of abuse.

The COVID 19 virus seems to cause more damage to the heart than previous coronaviruses. So the side effects of the COVID 19 vaccine are going to be more serious than a flu shot. You've heard the phrase, as serious as a heart attack. But this wasn't planned by pharmaceutical companies. It was inevitable because vaccines have been heralded as helpful treatment for centuries. Idiocracy is not a new phenomenon.

Perhaps the harm from COVID 19 vaccines will alert people to the idiocracy that has persisted for centuries, and humanity can move in a better direction. But that may be naively hopeful...

a reply to: MaxxAction

we don't have a complete understanding of the nature of the way that the vaccine works as it pertains to producing an immune response."

that's a load of horsesh@@, they know/ knew that it communicates with your DNA, they also know like me or the majority of people that anything made by man that can do that with out years and years of testing can and most likely will f--- you up.

they probably meant to say

we don't have a complete understanding of how to fix it so it doesn't seem as if people that have been jabbed are developing long term disabilities and dying.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
Sorry...

but this is a ridiculously lackadaisical approach you are taking.

Well, life is what it is.

You can argue until you are blue in the face that it shouldn't be that way, and I will agree with you, but neither of our opinions are going to change the fact that this is the system in place and, more importantly, that is where the bar is placed.

Loosing oneself in CT is nice, which we all like or we wouldn't be here, it doesn't change what is happening in the real world.

a reply to: InachMarbank

So, tweaking genetic code in a specific way in a machine is natural?
How does nature do that? Natures 'tweaking' is random, and if something is harmful or doesn't work, it doesn't continue or propagate.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Pointing out the disconnect in the thread title and what was actually said isn't apologizing for anyone.

Also, stop using someone else's schtick.

It isn't a schtick, it's a valid description of what certain people do often. For years now the FDA, the CDC and the WHO have been vaccine apologists and denialists of reality. Not only that either, but also criminally negligent and actively engaging in fraud, deceit and aiding and abetting each other's crimes. Even perjury.

That reality has been coming home to roost exponentially at this point. Better get used it.

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: chris_stibrany

Vaccines are natural. That's probably why they aren't fully understood. Do you understand how a seed grows into a tree?

They grow the MRNA vaccines from bacteria, and use a genomic sequencer to compose the unique order of nucleotide bases (combination of G A T C).

Basically they just replicate the genetic code of the virus.

Not sure why people think increasing your exposure to the virus is supposed to help you... It reminds me of alcoholism... Increasing exposure increases your tolerance. But it doesn't mean you are immune to the damage caused by a substance that is harmful. It's just you get used to living with the pain.

This is the kind of abusive thinking that has persisted for centuries. Even here on ATS, I don't see anybody questioning this general philosophy of abuse.

The COVID 19 virus seems to cause more damage to the heart than previous coronaviruses. So the side effects of the COVID 19 vaccine are going to be more serious than a flu shot. You've heard the phrase, as serious as a heart attack. But this wasn't planned by pharmaceutical companies. It was inevitable because vaccines have been heralded as helpful treatment for centuries. Idiocracy is not a new phenomenon.

Perhaps the harm from COVID 19 vaccines will alert people to the idiocracy that has persisted for centuries, and humanity can move in a better direction. But that may be naively hopeful...

Vaccines are made mostly from Virus, not bacteria. Antibiotics are for treating bacterial infections.

And it WAS planned by the pharma companies with profit in mind, not anyone's long term or even short term health in mind. The very same pharmaceutical companies who themselves have had to pay out billions in fines for criminal negligence and fraud in the past.

Politicians flipped flopped saying they were bad at first, because not fully tested and experimental, but then many of them flipped the other way and demanded everyone had to get them or be fired, plus promoted vaccine card ID's and GRAVE social and economic sanctions for not obeying an illegal demand the federal government had no authority or authorization to mandate in the first place.

Something lucrative had to happen for all of those authoritarians and morally corrupt people to do that. Campaign funding is a big job after all.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Mrna vaccines are made from bacteria.

I meant to say pharmaceutical companies didn't manufacture the COVID 19 vaccine with plans to harm people.

a reply to: chris_stibrany

It replicates what is found in nature.

It works the way the virus does.

Many things in nature are harmful, such as viruses.

originally posted by: watchitburn
I don't understand how the millions of people who were lied to, tricked, and forced to be medical test monkeys aren't pulling out their torches and pitchforks yet.

Tis a conundrum, since to take action would seem
to affirm that something unsettling had happened, to them.
The designers are counting on the brainwashed to double down,
to grab more rope to corral and to reign in the dirty unvaxxed, all of 'em...so that
their medicine will finally work. No one is vaxed, until all are vaxed.
That sort of thing. It's like talking to a corpse.
It's boring. However, we should know that quarantine camps for the unvaxed
shall remain in their plans, always.

Maybe the ones who weren't brainwashed, will have to do most of the fighting,
on account that voting is a fixed contest, and designed to retaliate against us all.
The more they must cheat, the angrier and more diabolical the globally aspirant cheaters
do become, once the chips settle, and the gaslighting ramps up.

From the start, the flu to covid swap was a political design.
Seems that nationalist populism was getting a big fat orange kickstart
that was seeping into other countries, across sovereign borders,
borders they do not want, so they took him down.
My point being that a brainwashed person,
brainwashed into hating a man if only by projection of one's self
(this should need no elaboration)
ie., OMB
just wants all the munny lol...
then this same helpless person is unlikely
to see health and medicine in clear objective focus.
By now being in a thick cloud is a natural state.

They are relying on more self-lies as sustenance.

You see...they really believe in whatever light
is being cast into the gaslighted air surrounding them,
which is the very essence of brainwashing.


And the algos are tracking every star, like, keyboard click;
every sentence written or read,
while the rush to soshcredcurrency accelerates in lockstep stride
with their dire need to weaponize money....against us.
Vaxed or unvaxed, this soshcred algo system is something that affects us all.
As it emerges, if it succeeds, then everyone loses.

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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: MaxxAction
Sorry...

but this is a ridiculously lackadaisical approach you are taking.

Well, life is what it is.

You can argue until you are blue in the face that it shouldn't be that way, and I will agree with you, but neither of our opinions are going to change the fact that this is the system in place and, more importantly, that is where the bar is placed.

Loosing oneself in CT is nice, which we all like or we wouldn't be here, it doesn't change what is happening in the real world.

Systems do change under pressure by citizens, lawyers, lawmakers and politicians. If what you are saying was true then there would be no change at all. The opinions we hold with some pressure can make a lot of difference. Yes, change takes time to happen and it is often a very slow process.

But I suppose when Pfizer has been fabricating data and evidence in the clinical phase trials and deceiving the population as well as trying to engineer viruses via directed evolution then you have got a very strong case against them and against all others who are known to have broken every law of the state and have paid billions of dollars in criminal fines during the past. Remarkably they have avoided jail or even worst..

But you seem to be engaging again in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality as well as trying hard to defend the pharmaceuticals for once more.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Unless the pharma apologists can describe exactly how the mRNA vaccines work including why spike is found throughout the body when it's not supposed to then shut up and stop spreading disinfo.

mRNA products you mean.
There are not vaccines using the standard definition. But wait.. they had to change the definition so the products can qualify as vaccines!
Marvelous! It's like being stuck in traffic and we now decide that we have fly and avoid the traffic...

a reply to: Asmodeus3
If you would take the time to read and try to comprehend what is actually written it would really help the conversation flow better.

While there are things that cause changes to systems, I clearly stated that you and I posting our opinions here isn't going to change the system in place now and current requirements in effect.

That isn't apologizing for anything, defending anyone and is in fact the opposite of denying reality.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: MaxxAction


I did some looking into this and can't find a single source outside of stupid "Rumble".

So, you believe that the Phizer and FDA reps in that video are bots created by a stupid AI you refer to as 'Rumble'... is that right?

Rotflmao!

I guess there really is no person named Brian Stelter, he is just a bot created by the AI referred to as CNN. Actually... now that makes perfect sense, come to think of it.