New Government Funded Food Pyramid Says Lucky Charms Are Healthier Thank Steak

I like to view these things with a subjective mind and leave politics out of it as much as I can.
Watermelon is good for you, but you can't live on it.
Ground beef is fine but it shouldn't compromise a majority of your diet, get a little leaner protein in there too like some chicken and fish.
Eggs are good for you in the sense they have a lot of nutrition but a lot of cholesterol too, when you like them like I do, fried in butter.
I guess my point is, I don't need the Federal frieken government telling me what to eat, or how much to sleep, or that cigarettes are bad for me.
I was blessed with a little common sense

This is utter complete garbage and insane.

Orange juice is really high on the glycemic index as well as honey nut cheerios.

Watermelon is high in fruit sugars.

Eggs are not bad for you. This chart is crap and explains why most of America is obese. Ugh.

a reply to: AOx6179

Have you ever bought birdseed? Millet is the little round grain that fills out the bulk of most birdseed mixes. I'll give you a clue - the birds don't even like it.

a reply to: infolurker

The Tufts Food Compass Data page makes no reference to "Lucky Charms" at all.

The data that the goodranchers.com (which appears to be an anonymous blog post supporting a commercial enterprise) article was based upon, was from this non-peer reviewed paper: Limitations of the Food Compass Nutrient Profiling System.

In the 'Supplementary Data' .pdf file available for download from the Tufts site, Lucky Charms are given a 'Health Star Rating' of 2 (out of a possible 5 stars) and lean cooked beef (any cut), and lean cooked chicken breast are given a 'Health Star Rating of 4, respectively.

My guess is that the blog and the paper have vested interests in the meat industry and are trying to discredit reasonable and unbiased evaluation of the 'healthiness' or otherwise of their products.

Americans and other 1st world countries consume more meat than is healthy. That doesn't mean that meats aren't healthy, it means that a good diet should have some limits on total volume consumed. One can eat too much of a good thing, and that is unhealthy.

a reply to: chr0naut

I couldn't find kiwi on there!

I wonder how it does against other fruits?

The red ones on the chart are the foods I like.

The foods that help to increase your intelligence or common sense are at the bottom of the list as bad for you. I see what they are trying to do, create more idiots like themselves.

Celery juice is not very good for a lot of people from the second graph someone listed, it contains a lot of eugenol, you know that chemistry that they give people to numb pain in teeth and use as an anesthetic.

I think they are trying to make everyone into sicklings.

Every year this movie gets a little closer to reality.

a reply to: infolurker

Here are lucky charms ingredients:

Whole Grain Oats, Sugar, Corn Starch, Modified Corn Starch, Corn Syrup, Dextrose. Contains 2% or less of: Salt, Gelatin, Trisodium Phosphate, Red 40, Yellow 5 & 6, Blue 1, Natural And Artificial Flavor. Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols) Added to Preserve Freshness. Vitamins and Minerals: Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin C (sodium ascorbate), Iron and Zinc (mineral nutrients), A B Vitamin (niacinamide), Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride), Vitamin B1 (thiamin mononitrate), Vitamin A (palmitate), Vitamin B2 (riboflavin), A B Vitamin (folic acid), Vitamin B12, Vitamin D3.

Red 40:

Red No. 40 is a dark red, water-soluble, azo dye (4).

A dye is considered an “azo” if it has the bonds C-N=N-C.

Most azo dyes are made from petroleum, a naturally occurring liquid found beneath Earth’s surface that is used to produce fuel (gasoline, diesel, etc.)

www.functionalnutritionanswers.com...

So even though the cereal contains many vitamins and minerals, no thank you, I'll get those vitamins and minerals somewhere else.

originally posted by: jerryznv
a reply to: chr0naut

I couldn't find kiwi on there!

I wonder how it does against other fruits?

You nasty person. It's people like you that lead to this small and innocent New Zealand birds extinction. Leave Kiwis alone.

originally posted by: KMeRMoRe
This is utter complete garbage and insane.

Orange juice is really high on the glycemic index as well as honey nut cheerios.

Watermelon is high in fruit sugars.

Eggs are not bad for you. This chart is crap and explains why most of America is obese. Ugh.

The western diet has pushed orange juice, toast, or pancakes and two eggs and bacon as a nutritional breakfast. The only thing really good for you are the eggs.

The high spike in sugar from orange juice and the carbs in the pancakes or toast first thing in the AM doesn’t help with our obesity/insulin resistant problems.

The nutrition pyramid the Government pushes in our public and private schools since I was a kid is essentially inverse of what’s listed.

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You know there isnt one indicator in the actual study that they want to change the food pyramid or claim lucky charms is healthier than stake. This is embarrassing. Its like this is some kind of test on how well people accept whats been given in front of them without question. If you replied to the OP without reading the underlying study, you have failed. And for something I would only eat in emergency, there are a lot worse foods out there.
www.thiscollegelife.com...

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: infolurker
I clicked, scrolled and examined.

So did I...

Most of the charts appear coherent and accurate.

I guess we examined different charts, because they were all fracked (using all kinds of mixed garbage), and totally wrong (promoting plant based over animal based).

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
My question about that study is why the obsession with almonds?

Almond milk, almond M&M's, almonds. Almonds are the nut that requires the most water to grow. And they say fresh water is getting scarce.

They are also extremely toxic. There is enough cyanide in just a cup and a half of almonds to kill most people - and it takes far less for bitter almonds.

Plants are Trying to Kill You:

a reply to: tanstaafl
You are talking about wild almonds....not the ones in shops today.

Most almonds produced today are naturally tasty and safe to eat. Back then, though, many were bitter and poisonous. Even today, consuming 50 — or fewer — wild, bitter almonds could potentially kill an adult, and just a handful contain enough cyanide to be lethal to a child.

originally posted by: texas thinker
I like to view these things with a subjective mind and leave politics out of it as much as I can.
Watermelon is good for you, but you can't live on it.

And it actually isn't good for you, either, that is a lie.

Ground beef is fine but it shouldn't compromise a majority of your diet,

Except one can live on it all by itself and be extremely healthy, especially the higher fat versions.

I actually found a local farmer that grinds me a 50/50 blend of grass fed/finished that is amazing, for only $5.99'lb.

get a little leaner protein in there too like some chicken and fish.

No thanks, if I'm going to eat lean, I'll go with sirloin or other similar leaner steaks.

I do however enjoy the fattier fish occasionally (love me some wild caught sockeye salmon).

Eggs are good for you in the sense they have a lot of nutrition but a lot of cholesterol too, when you like them like I do, fried in butter.

Except cholesterol is extremely healthy, eat as many eggs in butter as you want!

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: tanstaafl
You are talking about wild almonds....not the ones in shops today.

"Most almonds produced today are naturally tasty and safe to eat. Back then, though, many were bitter and poisonous. Even today, consuming 50 — or fewer — wild, bitter almonds could potentially kill an adult, and just a handful contain enough cyanide to be lethal to a child."

True as far as it goes, but even sweet almonds have cyanide in them.

But, sure, you can eat some without getting sick, doesn't make them healthy.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
But, sure, you can eat some without getting sick, doesn't make them healthy.

All things have a limit, even drinking too much water can kill you.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: tanstaafl
All things have a limit, even drinking too much water can kill you.

True, but plants - ALL plants - are loaded with all kinds of known toxins (oxalates, lectins, etc etc ad nauseum) and anti-nutrients, so much so they outweigh any external toxins in the form of pesticides/herbicides humans may spray on them.

Water (pure water at least) isn't.