Well, seems we're now at war with Russia....

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Maybe we're just misunderstanding each other. When I said "us" I meant me and Putin, not you and I.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The same Anglos that helped in major part to defeat Hitler
The same Anglos wouldn't be able to Hitler without Russia.

Your russophobic is noted.

It wasn't the Anglos liberated the half of Europe from the allied Hitler to the west.

ruZZia allied with hitler from the start in order to carve up the territories it was eyeing in places it neighbored, that only ended when hitler went totally dumb arsed. ruZZia was in WW2 at the start only to gain land and resources while feeding hitler material to keep his ambitions rolling... its only when he turned on ruZZia that ruZZia actually gave a damn, and even then it only did what it did because hitler attacked them, not because it was the right thing to do in the first place.

ruZZia didnt liberate half of Europe from hitler, hitler and the weather/environment of the land called Russia liberated half of Europe from hitler (that dumb arsed bit). ruZZia would have been in deep # had hitler been just a little more circumspect with his actions, especially if hitler had managed to take western Europe and broken England and pushed it out of the war before engaging ruZZia.

In many of those 'liberated' parts of Europe ruZZia 'helped' with, the local civilian populations feared the ruZZians more than the actual nazis, the accounts of what the ruZZian troops did to the people living in the places they 'liberated' brings the question of what just does 'liberated' mean to a ruZZian... not to mention many local people in those areas actually fled the ruZZian advance knowing what was coming in terms of 'liberation'.

Thing is, nearing 80+ years latter... ruZZia is still that same WW2 and prior ruZZia. Every video ive seen for months of moscovites and st petersburgians, siberian urals, country folk and out laying villages and towns people being interviewed... they all, for the most part, show the same mindset and culture that 'stereotypically' caused that panic of 'the ruZZians are coming!'... all the videos of intercepted phone calls over the last year of ruZZian troops, all bar a small handful show the same mindset and culture that 'stereotypically' caused that fear of ruZZia...

Its not ruZZiaphobia... its history, fact and simple recognition of past patterns of action of a people.

And you know whats REALLY sad about all that... the ruZZian culture and mindset appears to actually LIKE being feared, they consider it something natural and noble. To them it is how things should be... they never moved into the modern world, and their leadership and by extension their peoples gravitation towards such leaders wish that mindset and culture to continue.

Here is the ruZZian mindset as portrayed by the head of RT...



We want to be able to bully anyone we want, even if WE are poor and starving and living terrible lives, we want to be able to tell everyone else what they can go do to themselves and take what they have, we want to be able to respond any way we wish to anyone that tells us 'no'... and hey while from the outside yes our way of living looks terrible... from the inside, we dont give a # we love it.

THAT is the ruZZian mindset, THAT is what the ruZZian leadership is pushing... yet somehow there are people on this site and elsewere who are supporting this?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Jarki

Like how the Finnish allied themselves with the Nazis and mistreated Russian ethnic civilians who lived there?

Russia ( Soviet Union ) and Nazi Germany were allied in 1939 when S.U. invaded Finland ( Winter War ) In 1941 Finland was
co-belligerent with Germany when Finland tried to take back lands lost to S.U. ( Continuation War ). So if some Russian ethnic civilians were harmed during the process, cry me a river !

originally posted by: halfoldman
Not South Africa:

Johannesburg, South Africa — South Africa has defended its warm relations and joint military drills with Russia as it hosts Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on his first visit since the invasion of Ukraine. Lavrov said he appreciated South Africa’s neutral stance since the war started one year ago and placed the blame for the continuing conflict squarely on the Ukraine and the West.

www.voanews.com...

This however is an ANC/ruling-party thing.
It doesn't mean all South Africans agree.

Just one of those state receptions.

Now I know his Majesty Putin likes a "Nutcracker" theme in the background.

Now the government of South Africa is in league with all these "rogue states".

The US so far is ignoring that, we're not that important anymore really.

But one day it could come to a point: "Are you going to support Russia or the US"?

If I have a choice I would always support the US.

wrong thread..

How Purin must think: "Ha, ha - we're going to de-Nazify the West".

With a bit of military mobilization and vodka shots - we can do it!

That fine line between being "motivated" and "delusional".

a reply to: poncho1982

You are seeing part of that “Why” right here in this thread.

The ones truly pulling the strings of this whole thing don’t care about Russians, Ukraines, Americans, Brits, or anyone else for that matter.
The string pullers laugh their asses off reading threads like this.
This is not East verses West or Bad Russians against bad Ukrainians….

The site of the forest has been lost to the trees.
Wake up or we all go down, all of us.

But hey, what do I know.

I do have one idea, remember that so-called Rothschilds person who answered all those question some years ago at some site or other? I recently read that for the first time.
At no time while reading did I get the sense that people thought they were talking to an A I.

This whole mess is just one little act of the major show and it’s end which “they” have planned for all of us.

Chew on that and maybe stop arguing over the insignificant stuff they have us focused on………again.

Ho Hum, I’ll go back to my corner now.

Cheers!

a reply to: PiratesCut

are you blaming putins actions and barbarity on some made up string pullers??? he is the string puller in russia. i know, the devil made him do it.....

a reply to: LouisCypher

The group is always stronger than the individual. That's just how it is. It would be more than silly to assume Russia has no interest groups working together. Just because the system functions a little differently, Russia too has its bureaucrats, its FSB, its economy clubs, banks, ...
Huge amounts of money and power involved in what topics Putin gets presented, who writes the reports etc.
If they ganged up on anybody including Putin, that's just es much a death sentence as everywhere else.

Power works through people believing you are in whatever way capable of getting the job done. That's what Putin was KGB man, strong, smart, with a certain air around him, presentable to the public, but those who gave him the option to be elected for the post always know how hhe got his position.
Then he decided who was allowed to get rich when the spoils of the old Union's dead body was sold. And they made him rich along the way.
A second group that 'owns him' If sou will.

Just saying that's an illusion any one person could freely rule in any country.

a reply to: Peeple

i am pretty sure he wasnt talking about the oligarchs and security services. he made it sound more like it was nonhuman control because people cant fathom that other people can behave like this and need to blame it on dark spirits and other make believe.....

a reply to: LouisCypher

I think we need to accept that more than one thing can be true at the same time.
Humans like to control the future. So every 'other intelligence' feels probably invited to do the same.
And sure I can't make that decision for you, but to me it's a possibility we can't ignore that something 'other than human' is messing with our peeps.