5 Minutes of Bush Doing Nothing

Originally posted by Colonel
I would have left the room IMMEDIATELY, escorted by the Secret Service, to speak with my advisors to assess the situatoin and search for the berst courseof action. PEOPLE WERE DYING and he just sits there like nothing is wrong and hangs out withthe kiddies.

this is you, but then again YOU are not president and you cannot say for certain how you would react if you were in his situation. speculation doesnt fly with me. since we'll never really know how you would have reacted lets stick with facts not "what if's" and hoptheticals.

you're constant bashing of bush is astounding. you seem aot have not just a little for a lot of bitterness in you. i'm not sure what you're problem is but i'm sure its really hard to pronounce and requires a lot of heavy medication.


however five minutes doesnt really mean a damn thing in the grander scheme of things. you act if he acted instantly that somehow lives could have been saved. this couldnt be any farther from the truth if you sent this idea into space in a rocket.

On the other hand, if Bush KNEW it was gonna happen, then would you expect a nonchalant response?

now you're being paranoid. people react differently to dramatic experiences. some are paralyzed and just sit there, others get mad and some like yourself insist on bashing a president as long as you continue to draw breath into your lungs. very sad.


far be it from me to defend ANY politician but these threads of yours need to stop. you need to relax and go to a "massage parlor" or something. get a lap dance at a strip club. it is not normal for any person to have this much anger bitterness and resentment towards any one person. you're acting like he does these things just to get on YOUR nerves.


get help.

If Colonel has a view in any way similar to mine, the anger is not just about the criminal, lying, corrupt, useless imbecile Bush appointed to the job of 'president' by the corrupt Supreme Court.

It is about what this administration stands for, the damage it is doing in the world and how too many Americans too easily swallow the lie upon lie upon lie sh*t out by this administration every day.

There are billions more people with a position on the Bush administration similar to the Colonel's, than the few tens of millions that believe the Bush administration has anything more worthwhile to contribute, to justify staying in office a moment longer.

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
If Colonel has a view in any way similar to mine, the anger is not just about the criminal, lying, corrupt, useless imbecile Bush appointed to the job of 'president' by the corrupt Supreme Court.

It is about what this administration stands for, the damage it is doing in the world and how too many Americans too easily swallow the lie upon lie upon lie sh*t out by this administration every day.

There are billions more people with a position on the Bush administration similar to the Colonel's, than the few tens of millions that believe the Bush administration has anything more worthwhile to contribute, to justify staying in office a moment longer.

lol do you REALLY think this is the first time we've had a president in a situation like this? you seem to.tens of millions out of hundrds of millions of people is a rather small percentage. it really is.

i would think some of you would realize that not everyone is going to be happy regardless who the president is but obviously not. and with some people they are NEVER satisfied period.

It is about what this administration stands for, the damage it is doing in the world and how too many Americans too easily swallow the lie upon lie upon lie sh*t out by this administration every day.

i felt this needed to be quoted twice. the very same statement has been made about previous administrations including clintons. did you share this opinion then? he lied, he did things that wound up be more harmful than good but all politicians do this. he thinks he is doing what is best, you dont agree, yipee for you, that doesnt mean jack though. this mob rule mentality is rather dangerous.

just because you and a few others dont like him doesnt mean he should be removed. lots of people didnt like clinton and wanted him to be removed, does that mean he should have been? of course not.

Monkey

I believe you have rather 'misunderestimated'

* the extent of criminality in this administration
* the groundswell of the movement to be rid of it.

Yes, I believe firmly that no administration has ever been involved in the kind of massive hijack and hoax that sums up the Bush years. But I don't need to convince you of that.

BTW, if you reread, the 'tens of millions' that you refer to as a small number, is my estimate of the staunchly loyal Bush supporters who remain vocal. The billions are the rest of the world that wants this thing finished.

Not trying to protect anyone here Colonel, but I was home 9/11 and to be perfectly honest, when I saw the first towers hit, I said "damn". I saw the second hit and I was awed to the point of not moving myself...

I thought the cameras started rolling AFTER the first tower was hit? Are you referring to the playback or did one of the networks have their cameras trained on the first tower before the plane impacted? Or were you in NYC on 9/11?

The reason I am asking for clarification is because Pres. Bush was on record as stating that he watched the first plane hit the tower before going into the classroom. I previously thought that was impossible.


[Edited on 21-7-2003 by MKULTRA]

Some people suffer from the same 'memory lapses' and creative story-telling, MK.

It can't be helped.

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Monkey

I believe you have rather 'misunderestimated'

* the extent of criminality in this administration
* the groundswell of the movement to be rid of it.

Yes, I believe firmly that no administration has ever been involved in the kind of massive hijack and hoax that sums up the Bush years. But I don't need to convince you of that.

BTW, if you reread, the 'tens of millions' that you refer to as a small number, is my estimate of the staunchly loyal Bush supporters who remain vocal. The billions are the rest of the world that wants this thing finished.

the billions of people you speak of are pretty much irrelevant. they dont live here and they dont get a say. tough luck for them. they can voice their opinion but there is little they can do about it.

i havent underestimated anything but i've heard all the same tripe about clinton. its all the same accusations with a different name thrown into the statement. ive hread it all before about presidents before him. no politicians hands are clean, we all know that but to say one is worse than another is simply nitpicking at this point.

instead of trying to remove him (at this point in his term would be a waste of time) and if you REALLY want to make a difference try "educating" people about how bad career politicians like him really are. you'd be doing your country more a service to get as many people to vote as possible and to help get rid of the career politicians that seem to breed like rats in washington.


any BTW lots of people were convinced they had a large groundswell to remove clinton as well. and as you can see he wasnt removed.

Bush never does anything good.

Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
the billions of people you speak of are pretty much irrelevant. they dont live here and they dont get a say. tough luck for them. they can voice their opinion but there is little they can do about it.

This is where I think you are quite wrong, and it is where you may be doing the most learning as you observe events in the next 9 months.

Originally posted by Colonel
I have found a video of Bush...

Do you ever have anything else to say about any topic other than your hate for our current chief?

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Bush, but this constant obsession of yours on ATS is getting tedious.

... and attracting a lot of parochial responses from many protagonists over some very divisive issues, presenting little analysis.

If there is a need for 2004 elections, then the run-up will be a lot dirtier than anything Colonel has ever said, and Bush is not man enough to stand up to any of it. Besides which, he and the administration have brought their unfortunate fate upon themselves.

Originally posted by John Nada
Listen, it's not the fact that he didn't do nothing for 5 minutes which bothers me. It's the fact that when his advisor told him of what was happening he stepped away and awaited no response from the President. Surely it is his job to wait for a response? But he KNEW the President didn't have a response, because he knew what was going to happen.
Just look at the video, these are not the actions of someone who has just been told this news. Surely he should have gave some kind of response to his Advisor. ANYTHING. No, there was NOTHING. I'm sorry this is not someone in shock, and it is not someone trying to protect the kids. This is someone who was expecting this news.

Before I get attacked with liberal, I am not a liberal and I am not attacking the Republican party. I am attacking this particular gang of muderers and thugs that is the Bush Administration.
Surely Republicans even you wish for a better leader than this sorry excuse for a man, someone who can inspire you into great things. Don't attack me, deep down you know Bush is not the leader you are seeking, just be honest and don't take this as an attack on Republicans.

Rant over.

Well said.

A point also worth noting is that the President's activities on the day had been made public, the public was informed that Bush was at this school days in advance, the school he was at was also close to an airport. So this school Bush was at, was a suspected target, yet he didn't leave, he wasn't rushed out of the building, which suggests he knew somehow that he was safe in this school, even though the supposed terrorists could have been sending a passenger plane straight into the building.

Please explain to me, all you Bush supporters, why he wasn't rushed out of the building.

I can definitely see where avatar is coming from on this one.

No one's claiming that Clinton was a perfect president, nothing could be further from the truth.

But the fact of the matter is everyday you read the newspaper you read about another soldier dead in Iraq. If not that then you read about how this war is costing 4 Billion a month. Or how the jobless rate fell again.

I gave this president the benefit of the doubt when he was semi-elected but he has since let me and the rest of the country down.

And last I recalled Clinton's 8 years where the most prosperous years for the US in recent history. So if you want to compare the two presidency's bad points you should also compare the good ones. Bush is lacking in that area. Although I can't blame him for reacting oddly when the world trade centers fell you can blame him and his staff for many other things.

Originally posted by William

Originally posted by Colonel
I have found a video of Bush...

Do you ever have anything else to say about any topic other than your hate for our current chief?

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Bush, but this constant obsession of yours on ATS is getting tedious.

William, I bring news on the misdeeds of Bush b/c it needs to be known b/c no major news organization will bring. It is scandalous and it fits within THIS part part of the forum. In addition, many people have a lot to say on it, leading to active and stimulating debate, just look at the number posts and the number of views.

Shut up William. Everyone is kind of obsessed with the subjects they are interested in most of the time. Everyone can come across as obsessive when they argue a point they believe is right, including YOU!!!

It does not mean they are wrong or being argumentative, which you seem to think it is everytime it is against your own beliefs.

JUST CHILL, you can't control EVERYTHING.

Originally posted by John Nada
Shut up William. Everyone is kind of obsessed with the subjects they are interested in most of the time. Everyone can come across as obsessive when they argue a point they believe is right, including YOU!!!

It does not mean they are wrong or being argumentative, which you seem to think it is everytime it is against your own beliefs.

JUST CHILL, you can't control EVERYTHING.

(I like dis guy)

I don't want to break the party here but it has already been posted one or two month ago...

Yeah, I noticed that and posted the last time too.

Interesting how people can miss stuff isn't it?

37 responses and counting this time around...

Originally posted by John Nada
Shut up William.
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It does not mean they are wrong or being argumentative, which you seem to think it is everytime it is against your own beliefs.

wow ... I'm so hurt. What a creative response.

The point is, for the childish me-too complainers, that this topic has been covered... and it would likely have been much more productive to simply expand upon the existing threads.

Also, when someone continues to belabor the same point over and over again, like picking at a bleeding, festering scab, that person's credibility ends up suffering.

I think basically the issue is that the repubs (and repubs in independent clothing) here in the past had few in opposition so they could say whatever they wanted with only maybe MA to oppose. Now, the Colonel is here and the tables have turned.

As FLava Flav of PE said: "They can't handle it. THEY'RE GONNA BREAK DOWN!"