Judgement in Alien Context

In some versions of the Lords Prayer…..

A line is written like this “Save us from the time of trial and deliver us from evil” versus “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

Time of trial usually denotes preceding’s before judgement. In the context of Religion and Aliens…then what does “time of trial” mean if God/Jesus is an Alien? and then what would judgment look like?

Who is the “from evil”? ………other Alien races?

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I think naivety, gullibility, and fears will dictate whether to think of Aliens as benevolent or malevolent.

If they said they were our creator God or Gods, would you believe them?

Lets suppose you do….so you go through years of subjugation and worship to the Alien’s.

That is a very good question and observation.

If that happens, whatever group claims divinity would have to bring proof other than a declaration. Humans have evolved to that premise now. And it better be good!

And the great proof is how human experience would elevate internally and externally and or demonstrate some degree of omnificence which would be irresistible to us.
This could be a form of wrath---showing he or she has control and can do whatever they please to us. That God, we have familiarity with.... yin-yang, karma, heaven, and hell memes.

I saw a Star Trek once where Captain Kirk was confronted with just your scenario, and to my surprise, he exhibited great wisdom in that role.

He told the God claimant that he didn’t believe him because all he was doing was predatory things, and that isn’t the God we’ve been told about, so take a hike, he said to him.

The proof is in the pudding.

And since we've already spent thousands of years dealing with the mystery of faith and no faith, humans won't tolerate anything else but real proof this time

No more waiting another millennium or thousands of years with uncertainty.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Time of trial usually denotes preceding’s before judgement. In the context of Religion and Aliens…then what does “time of trial” mean if God/Jesus is an Alien? and then what would judgment look like?

It's humans who created this alien meme BS.

Alien is a generic term best defined as something outside of our ordinary experience,

So alien can be many things, from an angel of God or a devil, sure.
Ultimately higher knowledge in some form will likely protect some from that trail and when one sees another with that higher knowledge, take their hand unto your hand.

God also can be defined as alien, but so what. We've already put God in some celestial heaven outside of our experience, so alien, for better or worse, can apply. But it has no real meaning, just a word.

So when you see a person with real capacity and knowledge, and they say to you: Ignore my appearance( outer superficial state) and take what is in my hand( objective knowledge).


Follow that person, for they ask only to give unto you and take nothing.

The very concept of aliens would take them out of being able to judge us.

How can an alien know the reality of humans?

So, in theory, it would have to be some God to judge us, not any aliens.

What we don’t understand or are missing is that the “ aliens” would be a hand or action of God, not literally God. In other words, they follow orders. THERE NOT THE TOP RUNG of the intelligence they are from!

They would NOT be the literal judgment of God but the apparatus that physically takes part in the judgment on each side of the polar equation: heaven or hell.

So we've already been judged, and all they would do is carry it out.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
The very concept of aliens would take them out of being able to judge us.

How can an alien know the reality of humans?

So, in theory, it would have to be some God to judge us, not any aliens.

What we don’t understand or are missing is that the “ aliens” would be a hand or action of God, not literally God. In other words, they follow orders. THERE NOT THE TOP RUNG of the intelligence they are from!

They would NOT be the literal judgment of God but the apparatus that physically takes part in the judgment on each side of the polar equation: heaven or hell.

So we've already been judged, and all they would do is carry it out.

The hand of God….to carry out his orders…..Aliens would not be the word I would use….Angels are typically his hand. But now if you want to call Angels….Aliens….I suppose they could be interchangeable.

Btw as an fyi…..the word Alien(s) is used in scripture at least 121 times……..



……..but to be said to mean as the definitions of a earthly terrestrial Alien.

adjective - belonging to a foreign country or nation.

noun - a foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living."an illegal alien".

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SPAM

Judgement…. if its an Alien Robot race….may look like this…..


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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I’m not claiming aliens are anything; just expressing the various theories. In fact, one researcher claims aliens are demonic jinn, and many others, like Karla Turner, said they are evil.

So, we have both sides saying this or that.

But you're right; IF aliens were angels, they would be doing God's will.

That’s the point I’m making.

Even if they were a part of some Galactic Federation, they would be doing that group's bidding, not their own.

Do our pilots and other military people carry out their own agenda?
No…

Btw as an fyi…..the word Alien(s) is used in scripture at least 121 times……..

That is interesting.

Again, the term alien is a human term describing this phenomenon and not necessarily an accurate description of what's
happening.

The greater point is for millennia, humans have been in one form or another predicting power from heaven is on its way, and we get thousands of witnesses to this very reality, so to equate that with a religious meme makes some sense.

As I said—the proof I in the pudding, and we haven’t sat down to eat yet!

Maybe the table is being set, but no one has called out: time for dinner.

Of course, maybe they have, but we haven’t recognized the signs.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

That would be a form of the scriptural Armageddon.

Folks don’t usually know Armageddon is totally different from the apocalypse.

Armageddon is the struggle typified by the inner war of the soul for an individual and the outer war of humans for good versus less good or evil…

That is an ongoing reality until the judgment after the apocalypse, which means the revealing…

There is no war during that time, just what one can call a domination of the heavenly powers over man, beast, and this world. There is no reality in fighting God.

As someone said: my arms are too short to box with God!

There is nothing like the apocalypse, it will be a new reality of light where folks will see reality for what it is…then judgment comes about or the Last day.

It is after Armageddon...

The formal scriptural Armageddon, I theorize, happened in WWII. Of course, I could be wrong, and we have a huge knuckle sandwich on its sway...

a reply to: Left4Dead

Religion is a man-made construct.??

that just happened to pop up the same time as
writing, metallurgy, music, in mesopotamia

# rolls downhill, first the priests gained this knowlege from GOD,
some kept it to themselves and their rulers, like in egypt...
then wrote it down,
then taught others to read and write
then started spreading it to their public
the early christians got it straight from JESUS,
and started centers of higher learning...colleges

and now its forced onto everyone
that, and the fact that if you MOCK GOD
bad things WILL fall upon your head

however,......
i can believe that the JEWS
made up JESUS and his message of standing down
(seeing as no laws apply to them)
so they can rob and rape us, and we dont seek
an eye for an eye from them
imagine an entire population of slaves with
NO UPRISINGS.. nobody calling for their heads for their
many nonstop crimes

In looking for an analogy of how Religion’s may possibly start…..

From long ago, I remember The Plan

Other than that……Cargo Religion’s have some insight on how the most primitive of peoples can start to worship something and in time perhaps evolve into a full dogma Religion…which might include some form of judgment.

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Two points that get to the main question

One question is, does the ufo/alien phenomena have anything to do with the God theory, mainly in western religion?

So, for over 70 years--if the lore is accurate---they may have demonstrated the three O’s of God: They say God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.

Are the aliens described to us omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent?

I would say no. I don’t think they can be called omnipresent. A little omniscient and omnipotent, maybe. But that can be relative. Like if one of us went back in time with an iPhone and other tech stuff, we might be mistaken by the primitives as a god.

Second point. Here’s where somewhat (though they distort it) ancient alien theorists have a little truth when they say aliens were the Gods and humans just misinterpreted alien science as God. I don't buy that but
that has a small grain of truth to it.

It’s not about misunderstood science, it's about the fact that religion is mainly allegory.

Allegory definition: a story, poem, or picture that can be interpreted to reveal a hidden meaning, typically a moral or political one.

Of course, the ten commandment-type laws are not an allegory.