Prayer: An Extraordinary Display of Public Piety That has Unfurled Across the Country

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: TzarChasm

it succeeds through sheer dumb luck

Really I think your wrong here as I wonder why so many here always trash prayer and God. So just what brings you out on this when millions have prayed for this man.

But we don't talk about the other 999 bodies because it's bad for statistics and marketing.

So start by writing something. But you wont cause there's nothing out there

God isn't a conspiracy, the gain of function research and subsequent experimental vaccine coverup is.

So no, I won't.

a reply to: Waterglass

What sookie is trying to say, is you don't need god for prayers to work...

a reply to: Terpene

I can agree with that Both priests also support that along with every PhD I contacted. Were good here. People need to back off trashing the God stuff as I don't wear him on my sleeve but I do believe.

a reply to: TzarChasm

God isn't a conspiracy, the gain of function research and subsequent experimental vaccine coverup is.

I agree but as the human race so what are we supposed to do. Sacrifice all because of some utopia idea. It sicks but it is what it is.

a reply to: Waterglass

It's always nice to remind some of us of about the power of prayer. I have read several reports over the years about the effects. It is like directed energy. Many of us have thought about people and the phone rings, it's like this. It's a shame so many are so hostile but only when one seeks does one find.

Here is a little article I found in a quick search regarding such:
www.foxnews.com...

From article:

- Marilyn Schlitz, Ph.D., and lecturer at Harvard, says, “It's clear from the correlational studies within the epidemiology data that positive relationships exist between religious and spiritual practice and health outcomes on a variety of different conditions.” Moreover, she says that in a study and confirmation study on intercessory prayer, “the prayer groups had statistically significant improvements in outcome, suggesting that the intervention has clinical relevance.”

I went to Catholic School and have gone to several silent retreats in the past few years. Also studied a great deal of Santana dharma. Attaining a single pointed mind in prayer and meditation is good for the practitioner and the recipient. I have also read that there was less crime within a two mile radius of Buddhist Temples (really curious about churches) then just outside that space. I just did a quick search and found nothing about it now and many articles about temple break ins. This is the state of the world today.

Prayer is what will be required to work with the planet in the coming years. Thank you for broaching the topic.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Karma sucks...but it serves a purpose. No get out of jail free, you get exactly what you give. You, Sookie, live in relative comfort and ease because of past good karma. You are also generating karma for next lifetime. Kill someone and get away with it...never happen. These maleficent overlords subjecting the world's people to ills of all sorts, they have evaded much. Why? Cuz they told us and we did nothing to stop them. Those suffering may seem innocent but you have no way of knowing their past good deeds or their malicious deeds. It's a divine system that simply is, you don't need to believe it, but it is better for you if you find a way to get a handle on it otherwise it's pretty much Groundhog Day until you do.

a reply to: Terpene

Maybe, but oozing with bad attitude.

a reply to: GopiGrl

Karma sucks..

What does that have to do with the belief in a god that needs a certain quality and quantity of thoughts and prayers in order to divinely intervene?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Some peeps are due to checkout, no point saving them.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Specifically responding to your comments about Ukraine and children and father in icu. You seem to think it/God/Goddess/Source energy is cruel, the experiences some have to go through, so, it seems that to you, karma sucks.

a reply to: GopiGrl

...so, it seems that to you, karma sucks.

I don't believe in karma, per say. Too many unscrupulous people are in control for karma to be real.

Specifically responding to your comments about Ukraine and children and father in icu. You seem to think it/God/Goddess/Source energy is cruel,

The OP isn't talking about God/Goddess/Source. He is specifically referring to the Christian God and he's supposing Damar Hamlin's positive prognosis is proof of his GOD's existence, and his divine intervention due to pious prayer.

It isn't. Nor is it proof that karma is real.

a reply to: Waterglass

😆

This thread reminds me, EXACTLY, of the story Tim Minchin tells at the start of this video, which inspired him to write "Thank you God"

a reply to: Sookiechacha

But why are you arguing why religious people prey unless you're just trying to be an edge lord. Religious people pray and see positive acts to reaffirm faith.

You're basically arguing religious people to stop praying because you think it's dumb. Sounds like a waste of time.

a reply to: GopiGrl

bad attitude.

Yeah??? I read some absolutely justified critical questions, whereas the answers are full of passive aggressive accusations...

well something about the skunk and his own smell came to mind but I won't elaborate as it would be a waste of time.

a reply to: Waterglass

I wonder what the Christians would think, if a Muslim TV presenter had used this situation to publicly promote his own personal beliefs?

Would we have a thread talking about how powerful prayer to Allah is?

Would Christians believe that this prayer to Allah had anything to do with the football player getting better?

Or would they think it disgusting, that Muslims would try exploit peoples emotion in a situation like this, to further their own religious agenda?

So why would it be any different for non-Christians?

My point is, that while you may be watching thinking "Wow! This is powerful. I should write a post about this" ...

There are other people watching, cringing, seeing it as disgusting and/or opportunistic

Who only see a thread like this as proving them right

You aren't going to convince people, that what they see as cancer, is actually the cure

There is no problem with prayer, or publicly asking Christians for their prayers, if it brings comfort or makes people feel better

But there is a problem, when you try force it down peoples throats "leading them in prayer" within things like sports broadcasts that are for everyone, not just Christians

You are essentially turning a person's misfortunes into a promotional ad for your religion. And that is wrong in today's society

The problem with exclusive belief, is that you lose the right to then assume you can think and act for everyone

He knew it was inappropriate, but he disregarded all those outside his religion and did it anyway

For many non-Christians, this comes across as self-serving and disrespectful

You are kidding yourself if you think you will convince them otherwise

Would you accept being lead in Muslim prayer to Allah?
What would your reaction to that be?
What about if someone then posted a thread about the virtue of praying to Allah?
Using it to take credit for someone's good fortune?

Why would you ever think that doing such things is OK when it is Christian dogma?

a reply to: Terpene

When people use the phrases, "your God," and "your God is cruel," they are expressing frustration, anger and disrespect. That is not attempting to have a discussion, it is a kick in the shin, an f u and your God.

There is much rudeness in the world and on this forum and sometimes it should be called out. I was not rude nor mean, I simply stated my perception.

You stating "it would be a waste of time," is also rude. It indicates you have thoughts that you feel would explain or impart understanding but I am not worthy of your time. As I explained to Sookie, we all get what we deserve through the seeds we plant.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Just because you don't believe something, doesn't make it false. You simply haven't sought or read about these things. To say you don't believe is no reason to kick someone who does in the balls.

As for God, there is only one and God does not care what you call Him/Her but one thing is certain; God is more like a cat then a dog. One must call a strange cat gently and persistently not with a whistle or goofy voice.

a reply to: GopiGrl

Just because you don't believe something, doesn't make it false.

So it's true? The Christian God needs to be appeased by loads and loads of thoughts and prayers before He will apply divine intervention? You don't see that as cruel and selfish?

a reply to: Compendium

So because I am Christian I write a thread on prayer and God?

Soooooooooooooo Hello.

How about you send me your address and I will send you a signed autograph by Satan. You can hang it in your bedroom.

I am fine with Allah and so is Christianity.

Based on what you wrote you need to seek a hate anger management therapist

a reply to: GopiGrl

Thank you