Is the new jewish messiah here?

a reply to: BlackProjects

Possibly yes, I just got a package from a famous Jewish deli in NY. I’ve decided the owners are the messiah.

The pastrami was to die for.

Hopefully just for the pastrami.
Unfortunately,
high cohen priests/rabbis as david and moe,
tend to bring only bloody wars, division,
apartheid racism.


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There is only one Messiah and his name is Jesus.

Same guy that the Jews had killed. Go figure.

a reply to: BlackProjects

2 messiahs 1 Jewish and one Christian? This is the first I heard that.

Well , he's back


And he might be coming back.


So there's two potential messiahs and with the current goings on in the East it's not difficult to see who the third cast member is.

Does this mean the rapture/tribulation/2nd coming are at hand..

Seems we can't rule anything out these days , but let's hope not.

Unless there is a tournament of some sort, where they pit each other king fu techniques an powers for our own, an a superior intelligence own amusement, with nothing better on.

Then ends up with a twist that a greater threat comes an they must work together, an put aside our differences, in some ultimate climax of good an evil. With some fourth wall breaking moral that only extra or inter dimensional could only understand at the end of it all, I ain’t giving a god dammed cent.



Could glorify or exaggerate our certain destruction all we want, God will still think we are dumbasses.

originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
There is only one Messiah and his name is Jesus.

Same guy that the Jews had killed. Go figure.

Remember also that the first Christians were Jews, the Apostles were Jews and it was not all the Jews that did this though as it was God's will it had to be done in accordance with the prophecy.

To quote.

Mark 14:36: And he said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will." (ESV)
Luke 22:42: "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." (NIV)

Jesus knew what was going to happen to him and he dreaded it like anyone would but gave his suffering and sacrifice as the spotless lamb of God for our salvation, he is our King and we are sinners all which is another reason why his crown is a crown of thorn's, every sin we commit every last one of us hurts him and yet still we sin almost as if we can't help ourselves so you see we need his grace to be saved, we need his mercy and he gave it to us and there is no other way, no other Messiah.

Remember if you choose like so many misguided priests and pastors to hate the Jews because of the act that actually saved us as his blood was the sacrifice for our sin's then you are hating something that God willed to be.



Look what the priests did with a lamb for a sin offering upon the ark of the covenant by sprinkling it's blood upon the ark, look how the TRUE high priest Jesus poured out his own blood as the spotless lamb of God through the crack in Golgotha upon the ark of the covenant that had been hidden from Israel for 500 years since the exile to Babylon, this was revealed to Ron Wyatt and is not a lie but is genuine, the Israeli authority's know it is genuine but because the Levi descendants they sent in to recover the ark dropped dead before they could even get close to it they have covered it up, they would have desecrated the ark and removed the blood of Christ and then commenced animal sacrifice which is abominable in the sight of the Lord for Christ is the ONLY sacrifice that is needed and his blood is the only pure blood.

As he is seated at the right hand of the father in heaven so too is his blood on the right hand side of the mercy seat on earth.

And also remember he came as a Jew, he came for that flock first and because of it's rejection of him he also came for his other flock's, who ever accepts him and believes in him he gives the right to become son's of God.

One day they will ALL accept him but only when God say's that it is time, until then the next temple the beast possibly this man or someone whom will come after him and the second coming of the TRUE messiah which we accept (Know) and believe is Jesus.

But remember he is not coming to wipe them out but to reclaim all that is his including them.

What did he say on the cross of those that persecuted and pierced him and were to go on to persecute Christian Jews and other's that had converted to following the messiah, he said "FATHER (GOD THE FATHER) FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO".

Some Rabbi over the ages have well known whom Jesus really was but have hidden it, perhaps for wicked reasons or perhaps because it is part of God's plan in the long run, either way this helped to keep a society who otherwise would have melted into the greater Christian (But let's be fair even so called Christian nations are barely Christian and often do little more than lip service to the lord if that) and vanished, this helped to keep a group of people whom identified as Jewish or descendants of the Judaeans though many are of course converts rather than by blood, intact as a separate group something that was necessary to fulfil the prophecy's of the end times etc.

God knows what he is doing, he knows everything we will do even generations before we are ever born, he knows who is his and who he will save and who he will not save, he works from the end back to the beginning and from the beginning to the end, he is not subject to time as we see it and is also everywhere and at all times, we can't blame him for the bad things that happen as he gave us free will even knowing that for many of us that free will was a death sentence while for others it has allowed them to shine like stars in the darkness albeit dim ones before his light.

This world is darkness, Christ is the light shining unto the people living in darkness, he is the light of the world so why so many reject him, well it say's that men love the darkness for they know they are guilty and fear to come into the light but whosoever is of the light loves the light and will come into it, there is no guile in them.

Even if this man is performing miracles the bible says that the false prophet would work miracles through the power of Satan and they would seem indistinguishable to most that see them from the true miracles of Christ, but the beast is NOT the Christ, not the Messiah and he shall fall.

Is this man the beast, an anti Christ or even possessed by a demon or is he perhaps a servant of God (BUT NOT THE MESSIAH) whom will some day bare witness to Christ, I for own do not condemn what I do not know and leave him to God and in God's hand to decide.

Either way do not condemn but hold true to your faith in Christ he is your lord and loves you all very much even those that hide for shame in the darkness because at least they are ashamed of what they have done.

And he forgives those who know not what they do.

originally posted by: BlackProjects
Wars in 7th year and in 8th year the Jewish Messiah comes. Possibly the Ukraine/Russia war.

Do you happen to have a reliable source for that, corroborating the video's claims?

originally posted by: BlackProjects
2 messiahs 1 Jewish and one Christian? This is the first I heard that.

I perceive that since everybody expects the Antichrist to emerge from either the state of Israel, that will not come to pass. If one goes by their tradition, they will receive a representative leader who stands for the people, who will be slain by a bloodthirsty conqueror (Armilos), and the madman in turn conquered by the real messiah.

There is a historical precedent for all this: Alexander Jannaeus. It can be ascertained from his struggle that the Zionist methods haven't changed: courting foreign kings (i.e. King Demetrius) to invade a country by force while simultaneously stirring up internal dissent (those who were not Pharisees, those who sought the smoothest and easiest paths to their goals). It was said that he had with him an inner circle and a council. Presumably: he also had sacred women by his side (refer to the verse about lionesses), who will also be playing a pivotal role in preserving the nations.

It's exceedingly naive to believe that the Zionists could ever engineer and furnish such a warlord. Such a man could only come into being if he wished to exact personal vengeance upon them. The fullproof sign of his coming will be the revival of Jannaeus' cult of personality. The greatest revolutionaries (i.e. Rathenau, Weishaupt) came out from the midst of the ruling authorities, in a rebellion against them. Neither Zionists nor Christians are heirs and renewers of Judaism. Therefore, there will be a joint persecution of the two sects. In the West, there will be two Antichrists contesting dominion over Europe, specifically an Austrian and a Russian. Those are the real antichrists since they exert a world influence, whereas the original is mainly concerned with the state of Israel.

originally posted by: BlackProjects
Does this mean the rapture/tribulation/2nd coming are at hand.

There is no rapture, no migration of a select few among the living to other worlds, that's wishful thinking. Jesus (if he existed) never ascended into the clouds. The gospels were not written as ordinary books, they're clearly not historical accounts, considering the scant geographical and biographical facts (in comparison to Life of Apollonios), but the Acts narration is meticulously arranged in such a manner. John is the most authentic sounding, and according to him, Jesus returned to his students and remained with them in an ethereal form (neither human nor spirit). It's obvious that the other three gospels have had late century additions (great commission, ascension) interpolated at the very end, especially Mark.

I usually distrust clairvoyant testimonies and take them all with a grain of salt, but the Protestant theologian Ken Peters furnished a vision of a select few deceased persons being resurrected (in the same manner as Samuel. Similarly, Philostratos mentioned tremors occurring when Apollonios supposedly called forth Achilles from his slumber), but what Mr. Peters glimpsed definitively rules out rapture theory.

The Antichrist-like figure he describes appears to reinstate ancient eugenicist practices. What I found amusing was the part where Americans submit to his rule without even putting up any resistance. That's just hilarious.

a reply to: hjesterium

Biblical imagery supports a Gentile origin of Antichrist. Scripture pictures Antichrist as rising up out of the sea (Rev. 13:1; 17:15). In prophetic literature the sea is an image of the Gentile nations. Thus, Antichrist is seen as a Gentile progeny or at least an origin from the gentile nations, probably from an area / territory of the old Roman Empire.

The Bible not only teaches that Antichrist will be Gentile, but it also tells us he will be of Roman descent. This is understood from Daniel 9:27 where the one cutting a covenant with Israel is said to represent the revived Roman Empire, since it was the Romans who destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70.

Finally, that Antichrist is a Gentile ruler is also the thrust of Revelation 17:9–12. This passage says that the Beast (John’s term in Revelation for the Antichrist) is one of “seven kings”(17:10), thus, a Gentile (Roman) ruler.

That isn't to say he can't be of Jewish decent but it appears his power base will be from a territory of the old Roman Empire (Western or Eastern).

When Jesus returns, he won't be walking the earth. When he comes back, it will be at the End of Days and he will step down at the head of the host directly to the mountain. There will be no question.

However, there will be one who comes before who will counterfeit Him very convincingly. Much of the world will believe and follow after that one.

originally posted by: ketsuko
When Jesus returns, he won't be walking the earth. When he comes back, it will be at the End of Days and he will step down at the head of the host directly to the mountain. There will be no question.

However, there will be one who comes before who will counterfeit Him very convincingly. Much of the world will believe and follow after that one.

Exactly.

originally posted by: infolurker
In prophetic literature the sea is an image of the Gentile nations.

Which verses say this?

originally posted by: infolurker
The Bible not only teaches that Antichrist will be Gentile, but it also tells us he will be of Roman descent.

I'm under the impression that there are less Roman types incarnating in our times, more men are turning inward while women are increasingly stepping into influential roles.

Celsus argued that Daniel was merely a collection of extant, already fulfilled prophecies rehashed for the present generation in his day.

originally posted by: infolurker
Finally, that Antichrist is a Gentile ruler is also the thrust of Revelation 17:9–12. This passage says that the Beast (John’s term in Revelation for the Antichrist) is one of “seven kings” (17:10), thus, a Gentile (Roman) ruler.

Seven is symbolic, that's not meant to be taken literally. It's fruitless to speculate on how many world leaders will align themselves with the Antichrist.

It's easier to trace where the values of the Roman empire (power, glory, honor) has resurfaced throughout the ages: British imperialism, Napoleon's France, Prussian Germany, Mussolini's Italy.

I've ruled out Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, and American imperialism as Roman successors. The former were mainly confined to the European continent, their idealism approximates Hellenism more than Roman values. The latter rules by proxy, it can't even sort out its own affairs. It has nothing on Rome.

One would imagine that America would be next in line (it's certainly acquired the tendency), but there are prophecies (Nostradamus & Holzhauser) which asserts that Rome (interpreted: American imperialism) would lose its territories in the east as a result of two failures on its part, in addition to the emergence of two tyrants in Europe.

originally posted by: ketsuko
When Jesus returns, he won't be walking the earth. When he comes back, it will be at the End of Days and he will step down at the head of the host directly to the mountain.

Celsus indicated that this view of god coming down as a consuming fire was a misinterpretation of cyclically reoccurring natural disasters (fire from the sky & deluge).

The Anti-Christ will bring times of war,
and so it is.


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a reply to: hjesterium


A thought here. If you're looking for historical parallels then I would pose this. What if America is Greece? Rome was preceded by the Greek empire and it absorbed the Greek empire as it grew. What if that parallel is occurring today?

Look at the prophesies of Daniel 8 and 11. Per those prophesies "kings" from the middle east were to attack a powerful country to the west. Supposedly Alexander the Great attacked back and conquered the Medes and the Persians. And made it all the way to India before dying of a disease.

Now what if we're watching a replay of it in the middle east now? For the first time in over 2000 years a powerful country from the west has managed to conquer 2 nations in the middle east. Maybe 3 even if the "Caliphate" that tried to form in Syria is counted. Though I'm expecting a 3rd one possibly Iran to fight a war with the US and lose in some fashion.

If that is happening then the US is the Greek Empire. And it's going to collapse and get folded into the end time's Roman Empire. And the AntiChrist will be out of one of the 4 horns of Daniel 8 the US is going to turn into.

a reply to: ntech

And a funny little side note here. Something I realized about the Apocalypse is that it has a strange numerlogy to it. 3 and 4. 3 outright victories and one pyrrhic victory.

If my interpretation of the first seal is correct the trick there was to find the missing arrows. And that was a incomplete prophecy. You're supposed to find out who he's talking about by looking at all the other end times prophecy. And finding the missing arrows helps define who he is.

Found the missing arrows in 2nd Kings 13 verses 15 to 19.

15 And Elisha said unto him, Take bow and arrows. And he took unto him bow and arrows.

16 And he said to the king of Israel, Put thine hand upon the bow. And he put his hand upon it: and Elisha put his hands upon the king's hands.
17 And he said, Open the window eastward. And he opened it. Then Elisha said, Shoot. And he shot. And he said, The arrow of the Lord's deliverance, and the arrow of deliverance from Syria: for thou shalt smite the Syrians in Aphek, till thou have consumed them.
18 And he said, Take the arrows. And he took them. And he said unto the king of Israel, Smite upon the ground. And he smote thrice, and stayed.
19 And the man of God was wroth with him, and said, Thou shouldest have smitten five or six times; then hadst thou smitten Syria till thou hadst consumed it: whereas now thou shalt smite Syria but thrice.

The point of the prophecy is 4 arrows. 3 of them being victories in this kings war. So taking that and looking at the king of the South of Daniel 11 and what do you see? 4 victories. 3 outright and one pyrrhic.

I would say the first horseman of Revelation is the King of the South of Daniel 11. And that 3 and 4 numerology is playing out as the Apocalypse progresses.

the messianic age starts with Age of Aquarius and the Crowning of the Messiah. Sequence is 1 NUCLEAR WAR (NATO GONE) 2 Messiah Is revealed 3 Messiah is Crowned in Jerusalem 4 Christians Nations curse the Messiah 5 Nibiru crosses Earth, Meteor Impact, Mid Atlantic RIdge emerges, Sinking of Continents just short of 4000ft. I believe (bible code) RUSSIA NUKE NATO DECEMBER 2023