Crisis - Norway Funeral Homes Overwhelmed With The Dead

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: chr0naut

The variants were engineered by the vaccines.

The vaccines are inanimate and not conscious. They cannot engineer anything.

And, what of all the strains and sub-strains that appeared before there were any vaccines? Go back and have a look at the Nextstrain link I posted.

Perhaps the spread of the disease is engineered by pure stupidity?

Used to be they said they you’re not supposed to vaccinate in a pandemic.

The speed of science is dazzling.

Do you have to wait for the horse to have bolted before closing the gate?

When they had such large numbers of polio victims in the US, should they have waited until the cases were less before starting the vaccination campaign that has wiped out polio in the US?

The speed of science has nothing to compare with the wall of stupid.

Vaccination with leaky vaccines allows for the selection of new variants extending the pandemic much longer than if everyone developed sterilizing immunity naturally.

No vaccine has ever been perfectly sterilizing. There are always breakthrough cases.

Not only that, but people are getting COVID more than once, which shows that natural immunity itself is 'leaky'. The pandemic of the disease would not exist at all if 'natural' immune response was perfectly sterilizing.

In clinical testing, the mRNA vaccines all showed stronger immune response than antibody levels acquired by direct exposure to the virus: Safety and Immunogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-1273 Vaccine in Older Adults

Bill Gates funded PRO vaccine GAVI virologist Doctor Vanden Bossche predicted this over a year ago and he was correct.

This has been repeated over and over again but for some reason you think you can pretend that this was never discussed and settled.

But Bosshe is wrong, his letter contains several falsehoods, and he offers no evidential support for his assertions.

The mRNA vaccines use the whole sequence of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, so that the immune response generated would work against all spike proteins with similarities. This is why the original vaccines are still quite effective against all current strains (reducing viral loads and duration). Not only that, but there have already been reformulations of the mRNA vaccines that boost efficacy in dealing with the new variant strains.

SARS-CoV-2 evolution and vaccines: cause for concern? - The Lancet

Addressing Geert Vanden Bossche’s Claims

originally posted by: JohnMFINGWayne

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: jerryznv

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

This is so grave and huge that it is a 100% certainty that populations will eventually realize they have been lied to.
Can't hide mass genocide for long

Blowback will be massive

Globalists will hang from every lampost...

No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones), advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so), to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic. Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal, and is an indicator of the immorality and innate evil of these types of people.

I am dumber for having read your comment...but not quite as bad as you posting it!

Are you really that brainwashed? Propaganda worked well on you!!!

How about the person who funded the development of this virus? You're following their marching orders to the letter!!!

Who funded the development of all the other viruses that went epidemic or pandemic before SARS-CoV-2?

And where is the evidence of the genetic engineering required? The failed samples, the papers on components of the final virus, the banks of incubator machines with human cell cultures, and the sequencing machines to find out which ones were successful?

The only important numbers people need to see is the profit in 2021 the big hitters made while everyone else fell further into debt.
"Pfizer Made $36.8 Billion from Covid-19 Vaccine in 2021"
"Moderna earned $12.2 billion in profit in 2021"
"Johnson & Johnson annual revenue for 2021 was $93.775B, a 13.55% increase from 2020"

It says it all right there... and you know those billions of dollars didn't just appear out of thin air. Nor all those fresh cadavers in the morgue.

You'd sort of expect companies that make vaccines against a pandemic disease to make some kind of profit.

But as an example, Pfizer supplied more than 2.3 billion doses of its Comirnaty vaccine in 2021. That means they made a profit of about $16 on each dose, which does not seem an unreasonable amount of profit per item for a commercial business, especially for a product that has high manufacturing and distribution costs.

In the same time-frame, Wallmart turned over $560 billion.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

This is so grave and huge that it is a 100% certainty that populations will eventually realize they have been lied to.
Can't hide mass genocide for long

Blowback will be massive

Globalists will hang from every lampost...

No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones), advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so), to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic. Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal, and is an indicator of the immorality and innate evil of these types of people.

From what I’ve seen on this site, people are not saying the “disease is benign”, they are saying the vaxx is more dangerous and doesn’t stop transmission.

None of the vaccines are more dangerous than the disease. The disease is orders of magnitude more deadly.

There are serious adverse reactions to the vaccines but they are very rare and are specifically different to different vaccine formulations. The J&J and AstraZaneca vaccines have a possible association with blood clots, but the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines don't. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have a possible association with heart inflammation, but the J&J and AstraZaneca don't.

And, in regard to transmission, the vaccines promote an immune response to the pathogen. They can only stop transmission by reducing the number of viable hosts and the duration of infection. Which takes time and high numbers of those with immune response.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

So the government of Norway says its due to Covid and the mortality rate is lower than it really is? Color me surprised.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

Does Norway have a very high percentage of double jabbed or tripled jabbed people? The 7% increase is a massive number in comparison to the last year. I don't know you be honest how they did in comparison to the five year average. But do they suppose to have much less deaths due to Covid-19?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

This is so grave and huge that it is a 100% certainty that populations will eventually realize they have been lied to.
Can't hide mass genocide for long

Blowback will be massive

Globalists will hang from every lampost...

No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones), advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so), to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic. Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal, and is an indicator of the immorality and innate evil of these types of people.

From what I’ve seen on this site, people are not saying the “disease is benign”, they are saying the vaxx is more dangerous and doesn’t stop transmission.

None of the vaccines are more dangerous than the disease. The disease is orders of magnitude more deadly.

There are serious adverse reactions to the vaccines but they are very rare and are specifically different to different vaccine formulations. The J&J and AstraZaneca vaccines have a possible association with blood clots, but the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines don't. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have a possible association with heart inflammation, but the J&J and AstraZaneca don't.

And, in regard to transmission, the vaccines promote an immune response to the pathogen. They can only stop transmission by reducing the number of viable hosts and the duration of infection. Which takes time and high numbers of those with immune response.

Are you sue that the mRNA vaccines are not associated with blood clots?

It seems you haven't paid attention to the numerous threads around.

a reply to: chr0naut

You made a number of FALSE statements

Fact 1. Wuhan lab is the likely origin for Covid-19
nypost.com...

www.zerohedge.com...
www.zerohedge.com...

Fact 3
VAERS database has orders of magnitude more recorded adverse reactions than all other vaccines combined.
As other posters have remarked, your "source" is an industry front group
And then you dismiss the enormous amounts of reports in the VARS database

In 1976 after reports of far less adverse reactions, the US government pulled the swine flu vaccine. which was the correct decision
www.washingtonpost.com...

Fact 4
Covid 19 is only deadly to the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. Regardless if it's Covid 19, the flu or some other infectious disease, common sense tells you you do not introduce or worse, FORCE nursing homes to accept infected patients into a vulnerable population. That is criminal and you dismissing this speaks to your character or lack thereof

Dr Birx knew from the start these "covid vaccines" would not prevent infection or transmission, unlike the majority of real vaccines in throughout medical history which provide immunity

Forcing people to take this "vaccine" with risks of clotting and myocarditis is criminal



Keep right on defending the indefensible

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

So the government of Norway says its due to Covid and the mortality rate is lower than it really is? Color me surprised.

How do you know that the mortality rate the Norwegian government tells you is lower than it really is?

And you do realize that the Norwegian government isn't the US government that you distrust? It's, like, a whole other country...

Also, is "surprised" a color now?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

So the government of Norway says its due to Covid and the mortality rate is lower than it really is? Color me surprised.

How do you know that the mortality rate the Norwegian government tells you is lower than it really is?

Also, is "surprised" a color now?

It's a figure of speech. You should really focus on the comments above where you were completely destroyed instead of cherry picking my style of speaking.

Since you pretend not to pay attention, no one is trusting the numbers coming from governments, as we've all stated thousands of times.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

This is so grave and huge that it is a 100% certainty that populations will eventually realize they have been lied to.
Can't hide mass genocide for long

Blowback will be massive

Globalists will hang from every lampost...

No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones), advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so), to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic. Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal, and is an indicator of the immorality and innate evil of these types of people.

From what I’ve seen on this site, people are not saying the “disease is benign”, they are saying the vaxx is more dangerous and doesn’t stop transmission.

There are serious adverse reactions to the vaccines but they are very rare

Former Australian Medical Association president Dr Phelps.

“Considering that the majority of Australian adults have now had at least one booster, this suggests that the incidence of serious adverse reactions per vaccinated person could be more than 1-in-1000. PEI admits that under-reporting is a problem, and observers suggest that an order of magnitude of under-reporting is not unreasonable to consider (most estimates put underreporting at much worse than this).”

The mortality for COVID is below 1% and is below .1% in unvaccinated children. It's not difficult to see the vaccine is more harmful in people at low risk of COVID mortality.

And, in regard to transmission, the vaccines promote an immune response to the pathogen. They can only stop transmission by reducing the number of viable hosts and the duration of infection. Which takes time and high numbers of those with immune response.

Time which will never be adequate since the vaccine not effective at all after 3 months, is for mostly irrelevant strains when it comes out, and doesn't prevent illness. Again, vaccines are now shown to increase risk of infection for every shot taken. This means that you are increasing the number of people transmitting the disease from vaccination, not decreasing it. I'll post it again so you can again ignore it. You seem to only like discussing things you have a pre-programmed response for.


You are wrong and have been wrong. You're all out of runway and your fake fact-checking and debunking is totally discredited by data. There is no longer a single talking point you've gobbled up over two years that hasn't been shown incorrect. You said there were very rare adverse events. They are not. You said masks work, but there well over 100 studies that show masks are not effective for the general public. You keep pretending lockdowns were going to stop the disease from becoming endemic. It was only meant to ease the burden on hospitals temporarily, the same hospitals that are now running on reduced staff due to vax mandates. Everybody is going to be exposed and the vaccinated are going to become ill more often because they have outdated immunity locked in. You're also making a vague reference to herd immunity without actually saying herd immunity, which is a fantasy that The Science even gave up on long ago.

You trusted The Science as dictated by fake journalists reading scripts, social media influencers paid to do it, and power hungry officials, who all lied to you. This has gone from embrassing to shameful very quickly. You are now choosing ignorance.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

Does Norway have a very high percentage of double jabbed or tripled jabbed people? The 7% increase is a massive number in comparison to the last year. I don't know you be honest how they did in comparison to the five year average. But do they suppose to have much less deaths due to Covid-19?

Yes, but epidemic diseases grow arithmetically, so it could be expected that cases would increase while ever the disease is not reducing in numbers of infected.

In Norway, 74.61 % of the population are fully vaccinated at present. This still falls short of the 90% initially suggested that would be required for herd immunity to begin to reduce the number of new infections.

originally posted by: chr0naut

And, in regard to transmission, the vaccines promote an immune response to the pathogen. They can only stop transmission by reducing the number of viable hosts and the duration of infection. Which takes time and high numbers of those with immune response.

This is the part that people do not understand in either people are not as acceptable to the virus, as in their immune system can get rid of it before it takes hold and if not then a few days sick compared to maybe weeks means a lot less transmission time per person. As example, I was sick about two days and by day 4 zero symptoms. My wife in the same house with me didn't get it from me, but what if I was hard sick for weeks? This is what I have seen with many that I work with in the vaccinated get it and do not spread it to the whole family, but those not vacced have it upwards of 2 weeks and by the end the whole family is dealing with it too. Times these scenarios by 10s of millions...

originally posted by: Kenzo

I have said this a number of times and it seems people just do not get it. When we look at this chart we also need to break down who is in what category. The vast majority in the boosted category are the high risk and people well over 65. The vast majority in the in the unvacced are the young and healthy who just do not need it, so the much smaller percentage of the very old and high risk are the ones actually dying in the unvacced group. What this means is about 5% of those older and high risk are the 95% of your deaths in that unvacced group. The boosted group is the other way around in most are what we would call one foot already in the grave, so it is hard to compare when the population of each group is vastly different in risk.

Lastly the percentages are also skewed by the people actually in the hospitals, so back in Aug 21 about 40% of the people in the hospital were there due to COVID and in Sept 22 only 10% were the same who were most likely the very old and high risk no matter how many vaccines they had.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: chr0naut

The variants were engineered by the vaccines.

The vaccines are inanimate and not conscious. They cannot engineer anything.

And, what of all the strains and sub-strains that appeared before there were any vaccines? Go back and have a look at the Nextstrain link I posted.

Perhaps the spread of the disease is engineered by pure stupidity?

Used to be they said they you’re not supposed to vaccinate in a pandemic.

The speed of science is dazzling.

Do you have to wait for the horse to have bolted before closing the gate?

When they had such large numbers of polio victims in the US, should they have waited until the cases were less before starting the vaccination campaign that has wiped out polio in the US?

The speed of science has nothing to compare with the wall of stupid.

Vaccination with leaky vaccines allows for the selection of new variants extending the pandemic much longer than if everyone developed sterilizing immunity naturally.

No vaccine has ever been perfectly sterilizing. There are always breakthrough cases.

Not only that, but people are getting COVID more than once, which shows that natural immunity itself is 'leaky'. The pandemic of the disease would not exist at all if 'natural' immune response was perfectly sterilizing.

In clinical testing, the mRNA vaccines all showed stronger immune response than antibody levels acquired by direct exposure to the virus: Safety and Immunogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-1273 Vaccine in Older Adults

Bill Gates funded PRO vaccine GAVI virologist Doctor Vanden Bossche predicted this over a year ago and he was correct.

This has been repeated over and over again but for some reason you think you can pretend that this was never discussed and settled.

But Bosshe is wrong, his letter contains several falsehoods, and he offers no evidential support for his assertions.

The mRNA vaccines use the whole sequence of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, so that the immune response generated would work against all spike proteins with similarities. This is why the original vaccines are still quite effective against all current strains (reducing viral loads and duration). Not only that, but there have already been reformulations of the mRNA vaccines that boost efficacy in dealing with the new variant strains.

SARS-CoV-2 evolution and vaccines: cause for concern? - The Lancet

Addressing Geert Vanden Bossche’s Claims

If natural immunity is 'leaky' as you said then what about vaccine immunity. In a few words if one is 'leaky' then the other must be 'super-leaky'.

How do you know the original vaccines are quite effective against most strains of SARS-CoV-2?? They don't prevent transmission, neither infection, nor symptomatic disease.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

Does Norway have a very high percentage of double jabbed or tripled jabbed people? The 7% increase is a massive number in comparison to the last year. I don't know you be honest how they did in comparison to the five year average. But do they suppose to have much less deaths due to Covid-19?

Yes, but epidemic diseases grow arithmetically, so it could be expected that cases would increase while ever the disease is not reducing in numbers of infected.

In Norway, 74.61 % of the population are fully vaccinated at present. This still falls short of the 90% initially suggested that would be required for herd immunity to begin to reduce the number of new infections.

I think one must be in a state of denial to argue that vaccines can prevent transmission or infection. Even if everyone gets vaccinated with these products the number of infections would be very high and the virus will be easily transmitted from person to person.

Herd immunity is a fantasy and an unrealistic target. I think we have discussed this several times during the past but you don't seem to have read any of the available literature on the subject.

Can you have herd immunity when the vaccines don't prevent transmission and infection?
The answer is simple: No

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well it was allready 2021 seen trend that after they started the jabs in many countrys deaths go up , and recent data from UK actually mention allmost 50k exess deaths more in 8 Months time 2022 .

the recent Cleveland clinic study that have found that the risk of contracting COVID-19 increases with vaccination:

the recent Cleveland clinic study that have found that the risk of contracting COVID-19 increases with vaccination:

JABS & DEATHS BY COUNTRY - AS " CASES " GO DOWN - DEATHS FROM VAXX GO UP

That video is not so good thought..


I admit that statistic in general are too easy to manipulate, used wrong way. So i guess it`s wait and see , problem is offcial data like VAERS is most likely supressed to hide true numbers.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

“ The funeral homes employees also believe that the peak has not been reached yet.”

Feels over facts.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

If natural immunity is 'leaky' as you said then what about vaccine immunity. In a few words if one is 'leaky' then the other must be 'super-leaky'.

Lol Jesus... Define leaky and super leaky... geez

How about this... Not being vacced or with no natural immunity is super leaky, being vacced or natural immunity is leaky. This biggest point in all this is if you can reduce the condition then you will not end up in the hospital or die, right? If you can reduce the conditions it also reducing the transmission period too.

In simple terms, if you are only sick for a couple of days you will not need to go to the hospital and your transmission period is just a couple of days. If you are sick for weeks you might need to go to the hospital and or die and your transmission period is weeks compared to days.

Whether that reduction is caused by natural immunity or the vaccine I don't care. If you are young and healthy you have very low risk, so the vaccine maybe not really help you. If you are very old or high risk the vaccine will as in you don't get much natural immunity developed if the virus kills you in the process...

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Norway: 7 per cent more deaths than expected this year – due to Covid

So the government of Norway says its due to Covid and the mortality rate is lower than it really is? Color me surprised.

How do you know that the mortality rate the Norwegian government tells you is lower than it really is?

And you do realize that the Norwegian government isn't the US government that you distrust? It's, like, a whole other country...

Also, is "surprised" a color now?

Governments the world over are in on this. We shouldn't trust any of them.