Kari Lake WINS Right to Bring Election Fraud Case to Trial! - Judge DENIES Motion To Dismiss

originally posted by: steve910
A "do over"? I don't think that's how this works... is this what we've come to? poor losers. This is where the culture of participation trophies has brought us. From hanging chads to today. Can you even imagine the hanging chad debacle if that were to occur today? People's heads would explode. Actual evidence, actual facts, actual reality. Not this loser whining crybaby b.s. on both sides of the aisle because we don't like outcomes. If a vast conspiracy to cheat, why not do it better and more decisively? This is an agonizing slow death by a million paper cuts. Cheat to lose the majority in the House? Stupid. Cheat to just barely win/lose a presidential election? Stupid.

a reply to: Phoenix

Maybe because it is not a hudge federal level conspiracy to cheat run by one king pin calling all the shots. Maybe it's just a bunch of lossy associated (if at all) goup of local bad actors doing what each of them can in order to tip the election in their favor at a time when elections are being decided by narrow victories.

For example, if I see my federal level party leaders fabricating russian collusion hox evidence and politically prosecute the leader of the opposition party for years based on that fabricated evidence ... I come to belive that it is my party duty to gum up the works on election day by printing out ballots on the wrong sized paper. None of us ever have to talk, no conspiracy necessary, just one bad actor not being brought to justice spuring on the next.

This would also explain the mixed results. The malfeasance not being powerful enough to win the house but enough to tamp down what every political analysis expected to be a "red wave".

a reply to: steve910

The Arizona courts did it in 1916-17

Your "poor losers' diatribe" completely ignores the cheat and disenfranchisement of voters.

Your energy might better be spent on election reform where we can all trust the result.

As it stands now basically all US elections are a muddy affair where no one from either side can claim results are definitive, rather it's only a good election if the dem wins and every so-called win by a challenged.

Arizona voters were suppressed on election day and your A-OK with that - except tables turned I'd bet not.

originally posted by: Phoenix

Arizona voters were suppressed on election day and your A-OK with that - except tables turned I'd bet not.

Are you an AZ voter?

AGAIN -- the Independents in AZ swing the vote.

Independent voters don't get caught up in cults. They could see Trump as the conman he is.

Trump never got the popular vote. More people voted for Hillary than Trump. If it hadn't been for the Electoral College, he never would have been president.

You LOST.

a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

a reply to: Annee

Maybe you should peruse this.

Graph

I never brought in HRC or Trump in my responses to you - you did TDS for sure.

Hey, did Scott perjure by stating day 1 Maricopa County changed printer settings on election day to 19" then completely change testimony day 2

What about violation of chain of custody laws

originally posted by: dandandat2
a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

Point is -- Trump never won by a landslide -- like many here want to imply.

He was never "runaway" popular amongst voters.

His cult insulates themselves from reality.

Kari Lake tried to be a wannabe Trump. Voters saw that and voted against her.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Phoenix

Arizona voters were suppressed on election day and your A-OK with that - except tables turned I'd bet not.

You LOST.

AMERICA lost. Your money doesn’t go as far as it used to either. You are not exempt

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2
a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

Point is -- Trump never won by a landslide -- like many here want to imply.

He was never "runaway" popular amongst voters.

His cult insulates themselves from reality.

Kari Lake tried to be a wannabe Trump. Voters saw that and voted against her.

Anyone who talks about their political opposition as a cult needs to look in the mirror. Takes a lot of different people to make the world go round, we need to get past this knee-jerk fear of the "other".

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2
a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

Point is -- Trump never won by a landslide -- like many here want to imply.

He was never "runaway" popular amongst voters.

His cult insulates themselves from reality.

Kari Lake tried to be a wannabe Trump. Voters saw that and voted against her.

Anyone who talks about their political opposition as a cult needs to look in the mirror. Takes a lot of different people to make the world go round, we need to get past this knee-jerk fear of the "other".

Anyone who denies the Cultish behavior of MAGA -- is in denial.

originally posted by: Notabot12345666

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Phoenix

Arizona voters were suppressed on election day and your A-OK with that - except tables turned I'd bet not.

You LOST.

AMERICA lost. Your money doesn’t go as far as it used to either. You are not exempt

I look forward 10 years to looking back on this time.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2
a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

Point is -- Trump never won by a landslide -- like many here want to imply.

He was never "runaway" popular amongst voters.

His cult insulates themselves from reality.

Kari Lake tried to be a wannabe Trump. Voters saw that and voted against her.

Anyone who talks about their political opposition as a cult needs to look in the mirror. Takes a lot of different people to make the world go round, we need to get past this knee-jerk fear of the "other".

Anyone who denies the Cultish behavior of MAGA -- is in denial.

You got me there

Watching this Lake v Hobbs trial. This RSBN feed was not very good. The audio and video were almost constantly out of sync, made it pretty hard to follow. It also lost connection at least once.
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I switched over to this Uncover DC link toward the end after getting tired of that. Much better feed, though it did include commentary.
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My observations so far:
The prosecution has presented a reasonable case that chain of custody was invalid for all of the drop box votes that were collected from drop boxes on election day, some 250,000 to 300,000 votes. They have also presented a reasonable case that this was a conscious decision by the County Recorder or the County Recorder's office to not produce a valid chain of custody for those drop box ballots that were collected on election day, and not a mistake or omission, and that this is contrary to the letter of election law.

The prosecution has also presented a reasonable case to the effect that the reason for the ballot tabulator problem was the printing of a 19 inch ballot image onto a 20 inch form, which rendered the ballot in a form which the tabulator could not read. They also presented a reasonable case that this could not have happened by accident, as access to those settings was very restricted, set by scripted format loaded into all machines, and extensively tested prior to election day. Only someone with access to the highly restricted system, consciously making a decision to change those settings, and carefully orchestrating such a change so as to defeat all of the built in safeguards, could have made such a change, and would have had to do so after the pre-election testing had been completed.

I've started on day 2, the plaintiffs are wrapping up. I don't think the defense can dismantle the plaintiff's case, but I'll see what they have to offer.
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a reply to: Annee

When they vote for President of The E.U., why isn't it all popular vote? 😀

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2
a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

Point is -- Trump never won by a landslide -- like many here want to imply.

He was never "runaway" popular amongst voters.

His cult insulates themselves from reality.

Kari Lake tried to be a wannabe Trump. Voters saw that and voted against her.

Anyone who talks about their political opposition as a cult needs to look in the mirror. Takes a lot of different people to make the world go round, we need to get past this knee-jerk fear of the "other".

Anyone who denies the Cultish behavior of MAGA -- is in denial.

We knew it. You are an anit-Make-America-Great 😀

You like the backwards policies that make failure look good 😀

a reply to: TheBadCabbie

Thank-you for providing a calm, logical analysis of what transpired in Day-2 of the hearing.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dandandat2
a reply to: Annee

I wonder what the results would have been if anyone was trying to win the popular vote. Most likely Hillary and Trump would not have been the candidates at all if presidential elections were decided by popular vote.

Point is -- Trump never won by a landslide -- like many here want to imply.

He was never "runaway" popular amongst voters.

His cult insulates themselves from reality.

Kari Lake tried to be a wannabe Trump. Voters saw that and voted against her.

Anyone who talks about their political opposition as a cult needs to look in the mirror. Takes a lot of different people to make the world go round, we need to get past this knee-jerk fear of the "other".

Anyone who denies the Cultish behavior of MAGA -- is in denial.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Infact, coming from a globalist, id wear your labels with pride.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Notabot12345666

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Phoenix

Arizona voters were suppressed on election day and your A-OK with that - except tables turned I'd bet not.

You LOST.

AMERICA lost. Your money doesn’t go as far as it used to either. You are not exempt

I look forward 10 years to looking back on this time.

You do a lot of reflecting back. That can be good if you take what you learn, and apply it to making your life fuller and richer. Good luck!

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
Watching this Lake v Hobbs trial. This RSBN feed was not very good. The audio and video were almost constantly out of sync, made it pretty hard to follow. It also lost connection at least once.
rumble.com...

I switched over to this Uncover DC link toward the end after getting tired of that. Much better feed, though it did include commentary.
rumble.com...

My observations so far:
The prosecution has presented a reasonable case that chain of custody was invalid for all of the drop box votes that were collected from drop boxes on election day, some 250,000 to 300,000 votes. They have also presented a reasonable case that this was a conscious decision by the County Recorder or the County Recorder's office to not produce a valid chain of custody for those drop box ballots that were collected on election day, and not a mistake or omission, and that this is contrary to the letter of election law.

The prosecution has also presented a reasonable case to the effect that the reason for the ballot tabulator problem was the printing of a 19 inch ballot image onto a 20 inch form, which rendered the ballot in a form which the tabulator could not read. They also presented a reasonable case that this could not have happened by accident, as access to those settings was very restricted, set by scripted format loaded into all machines, and extensively tested prior to election day. Only someone with access to the highly restricted system, consciously making a decision to change those settings, and carefully orchestrating such a change so as to defeat all of the built in safeguards, could have made such a change, and would have had to do so after the pre-election testing had been completed.

I've started on day 2, the plaintiffs are wrapping up. I don't think the defense can dismantle the plaintiff's case, but I'll see what they have to offer.
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Since the judge stated the prosecution has to show individuals using intent to defraud votes, the defense will probably bring that up. The case will be dismissed, then the typical lying democrats will just repeat that over and over while ignoring the fact that there is no denying this was a completely fraudulent election. You really have to be a piece of garbage human being to act like nothing is wrong here.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: rnaa

Thank you for the explanation of a "beat up."

As for the rest of your tirade, make whatever excuses you want for breaking laws and obvious problems, I'm not. The judge has to rule according to the rules in a court of law. The court of public opinion rules according to our own rules.

Yes, The judge has to rule according to the law.

The plaintiff
1) did NOT demonstrate that any laws were broken AND
2) did NOT demonstrate that 'obvious' problems caused voting issues bad enough to affect the outcome.

And I've got huge problems with the lack of chain-of-custody and other lack of safeguards. In my state. In my county.County.

I understand that you have problems, but there are NO chain-of-custody issues and the existing safeguards worked extremely well, exactly as designed.

Lets pause for a moment and examine the 'chain of custody' issue. As I understand it the claim is that some workers at the offside data center injected their own ballots into the data stream. I'm not sure where that charge comes from, but if that had happened, then the various check totals would be in a mismatch - specifically the number of ballots entered at polling stations would not match the number of ballots counted.

But in actual fact the numbers tally exactly. This story is a textbook example of a beat up.

It just did not happen. Period.

You obviously don't. Gotcha.

You obviously don't understand that I don't have a problem with procedures that worked well and are perfectly transparent.