The Calamari clots are real.

a reply to: MaxxAction

Ah, you feel it.
Good enough for me. Poor bastards.

a reply to: Phage

Yeah Silly me...

There's no precedent for such a thing at all, is there? Oh wait, I guess there is after all.

Emails reveal how Fauci, head of NIH colluded to try to smear experts

www.msn.com...

Dr. Anthony Fauci and the head of the National Institute of Health (NIH) colluded on a way to discredit an alternative plan to deal with COVID from a group of experts, released emails reveal.

The emails, some of which were tweeted out on Saturday by Phil Magness, senior research faculty and interim research and education director at the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER), show Fauci and Francis Collins attempting to coordinate a 'devastating takedown' of the Great Barrington Declaration.

AIER, a libertarian think tank, sponsored the declaration, which largely abandons lockdowns in favor of a herd immunity strategy that allows life to return to normal.

In an October 8 email from Collins to Fauci, the head of the NIH calls the GBD the work of 'three fringe epidemiologists' that 'seems to be getting a lot of attention.'

Collins adds that 'there needs to be a quick and devastating published takedown of its premises. I don't see anything like that online yet - is it underway?'

Later in the day, Fauci sends Collins a Wired op-ed that refutes the notion of herd immunity stopping the pandemic.

Collins then sends Fauci an op-ed in The Nation also trashing the GBD.

www.msn.com... a084141be71861e030626b1#image=1

What was I thinking??

a reply to: MaxxAction



Has Dr. Bhattacharya been put out of a job?

Oh, and lest anyone think the article is actually from MSN:

Story by Stephen M. Lepore For Dailymail.Com

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: Phage

I feel pretty certain, based on what is happenig to all the researchers, doctors, nurses, etc that someone is trying to find a way to make that happen.

Actually Dr Malhotra who has been very critical and has spoken against the vaccines has had his reputation attacked by the system and its cronies.

As a result now even wikipedia describes him as controversial

Aseem Malhotra is a controversial British cardiologist, public health campaigner, author of several books, and writer of newspaper articles. He campaigns for people to reduce sugar in their diet, promotes a low-carb and high-fat diet, and encourages the reduction of medical overprescribing.

A scientist or medical doctor are controversial as the don't follow a certain 'consensus'. As it science is done by consensus. That's a fallacy that is promoted online and in the media.

Despite initially campaigning for the COVID vaccine, he later campaigned against the use of COVID mRNA vaccines contrary to the available evidence

I didn't know that someone can't change their mind!
It looks like Wikipedia is also influenced by the 'dinosaurs' of this life! They say he changed his mind contrary to the available evidence. Really?!?!

What evidence Wikipedia has for its claims??
That is safe & effective according to the pharmaceutical companies and their cronies?!

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
No doubt, someone didn't just make this up then have thousands of people go along with it.

I can give you examples no end of examples where that is literally exactly what happened. Slenderman is probably the most topical example. We know 100 percent for certain where the story of Slenderman started, we know how and why. It's complete fiction designed to be fiction, and yet there are thousands of people who claim that it's real.

a reply to: anonentity

he rang around to some mortician friends that he knew to check if these clots were indeed a new phenomenon. It turned out that they were indeed a fact.

And yet in the entire world exactly Zero of them has contacted a single ME or coroner's office about them. There are zero specimens available, and nobody has managed to explain how a clot that serious is absolutely 100 percent never observed at the time of death.

A clot less than 1mm can kill you stone dead if it breaks off and goes through your heart of lungs. A clot the size of the ones that we're expected to believe exist would likely be the cause of death, and even if it weren't it should leave a purple discoloration on the skin and possibly a bruise like area around it.

Yet ... nothing.

People are apparently dying of completely unrelated things and being found to have these prehistoric clots that nobody ever reports?

If these clots exist, why can't we get samples?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Xtrozero

Then it's probably best if people don't know how common these clots are, if they've been around for a long time. Many folks are already living on eggshells day-to-day, due to paranoia.

Quite often there just deliberately mislabelled pictures of perfectly ordinary things. Like bodily fluids that have pooled and coagulated after death as part of the normal decay process. Nothing new, nothing special, nothing that would harm a living person unless maybe they tried to eat it.

These conspiracies generally depend on people lacking knowledge on specific topics, such as the fact that a funeral home wouldn't be cutting clots out of corpses. Or what happens if you leave a corpse in one position for a period of time.

In real life, if these things existed they'd probably be picked up by the local ME or coroner, and if a mortician found on there is a reporting process that they would use to report back up the chain. It's often there for ordinary things, like if they find a needle mark that indicated a possible drug overdose on someone who isn't supposed to have died of one. Or if they suspect that someone was abused.

In order to cover up something like this you'd need to bribe or threaten every coroner's office in the entire country as you'd need to silence them all.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: MaxxAction

It does not take long to identify a troll or shill.

Is it someone who has a different opinion than yours ? I am pretty certain when you throw the term shill around it’s because someone disagreed with you

a reply to: anonentity

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

Oh yeah?

Chances are you don’t know # about this, but, somehow get your rocks off by trying to sound cool with a cryptic message.

Try us - it’s an open minded community.

Or, just stop posting since your cred is cratering at this point.

a reply to: UpThenDown

No...

As for me, I enjoy debate and spirited conversation. The problem comes when the other party is obviously not debating, but just disagreeing, regardless of what evidence is presented, they don't "discuss" the evidence. They just tell you it's stupid, or it's been debunked over, and over. This describes it better, from the "rules of effective disinformation."

Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the ‘play dumb’ rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

If you watch closely, you will see this behavior exhibited by several here, and anywhere that such forums exist. Such people are discussing or debating in good faith, they are there, or here, to disrupt honest debate and discussion.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Xtrozero

Then it's probably best if people don't know how common these clots are, if they've been around for a long time. Many folks are already living on eggshells day-to-day, due to paranoia.

Quite often there just deliberately mislabelled pictures of perfectly ordinary things. Like bodily fluids that have pooled and coagulated after death as part of the normal decay process. Nothing new, nothing special, nothing that would harm a living person unless maybe they tried to eat it.

These conspiracies generally depend on people lacking knowledge on specific topics, such as the fact that a funeral home wouldn't be cutting clots out of corpses. Or what happens if you leave a corpse in one position for a period of time.

In real life, if these things existed they'd probably be picked up by the local ME or coroner, and if a mortician found on there is a reporting process that they would use to report back up the chain. It's often there for ordinary things, like if they find a needle mark that indicated a possible drug overdose on someone who isn't supposed to have died of one. Or if they suspect that someone was abused.

In order to cover up something like this you'd need to bribe or threaten every coroner's office in the entire country as you'd need to silence them all.

I think you deserve a round of applause for this post.

originally posted by: UpThenDown

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: MaxxAction

It does not take long to identify a troll or shill.

Is it someone who has a different opinion than yours ? I am pretty certain when you throw the term shill around it’s because someone disagreed with you

On this forum it's the got-to accusation that gets thrown out there when one person realizes that the other person either knows the subject much better than they do, or has done done their research using mainstream scientific sources rather than conspiracy based ones and can thusly back it up using information that came out before whatever they are talking about went on.

It's short hand for "I can't beat your argument, so I'm going to accuse you of making it in bad faith".

You'd be amazed at who people have accused me of taking money from in order to post on this forum. Apparently I'm a high ranking scientist with the WTO, who moonlights with both the Clinton Foundation and the Gates Foundation, and a couple of the big English language news networks.

I'm getting so many brown envelopes pushed under my door that I've had to take out a PO Box just to accommodate all of the bribes. The NWO, WTO, TPTB, the Freemasons, you name it, I'm getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in unmarked bills from all of them. At least according to this forum.

a reply to: MaxxAction

Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs

I remember this one from back in the day with UFO. It was (and still is) a common tactic. Demand something that doesn't exist, and refuse to accept anything else.

It's right up there with the "constantly moving goalposts".

You tell someone that aliens come from a planet 50 lightyears away, and they spend the next 20 minutes saying that it's impossible for aliens to get here from another galaxy that's hundreds of millions of lightyears aware.

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

On ATS that reply always means, I don't know or there is no support for what I think.

They are targeting a specific audience.

a reply to: anonentity

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

On ATS that reply always means, I don't know or there is no support for what I think.

I'm not sure that's ever really stopped anyone here before. There are lots of threads by people proposing just about anything imaginable.

What is a little scary is how many of the absolutely absurd threads gain traction. There was one on here a little while back about a guy who thought that he had an app on his phone that could detect radio signals given off nanobots hidden in vaccines.

It was right up there with stories about people who claim that they were tinkering with old radios and that they picked up signals from aliens, or that they accidentally tuned into unencrypted government communications while fixing old radios.

Yet ... the thread took off and we had all kinds of people weighing in on whether it was caused by graphene particles and so on.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Just from what we've learned regarding Twitter and Facebook, and from recent FBI Testimony, if "THE SYSTEM" bashes or ignores what you're saying, you are probably on the CORRECT PATH.

View the bashing as confirmation of your assumption, theory, statements, etc..

The more the better!

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Just from what we've learned regarding Twitter and Facebook, and from recent FBI Testimony, if "THE SYSTEM" bashes or ignores what you're saying, you are probably on the CORRECT PATH.

View the bashing as confirmation of your assumption, theory, statements, etc..

The more the better!

Apply that logic to every Amber Alert hoax, and what do we get?

originally posted by: VulcanWerks

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

Oh yeah?

Chances are you don’t know # about this, but, somehow get your rocks off by trying to sound cool with a cryptic message.

Try us - it’s an open minded community.

Or, just stop posting since your cred is cratering at this point.

I've said more than once on here what the possibilities are for the clots and many disregarded or were in disbelief. So, my statement should be read literally. I am not trying to sound cryptic or cool. I don't need that kind of affirmation here. I have a lot of good stuff going on offline. The clots predated both covid and the vaccine.