Everything Points to the Solar Micronova

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DaRAGE

Because that's what happens when the magnetic poles flip. Like an electric engine, rotation goes the other way.

That makes no sense. Earth's rotation is due to angular momentum. It is not an electric engine. But are you claiming that the Earth's rotation has stopped and reversed with every geomagnetic reversal? While those reversals do happen there is no indication that the Earth's rotation reverses when they do. Nor is there any indication that they occur every 12,000 years.

Or are you talking about the Sun's magnetic field? That reverses every 11 years or so.

You forgot Sitchin. Yeah, Doug. Good stuff.

He also discovered that the exact number of years between geomagnetic reversals were embedded, as code in the surface story of the Torah. The second discovery was that the Hebrew alphabet and the Torah is the product of a very highly advanced previous civilization that had the same information theory of existence as the one we are developing, the Theory of Multidimensional Reality. 

dieholdfoundation.com...

Yes, that's correct. He did. Have you reviewed the subject matter, his analysis, and the information he presented outlining the how's, why's, etc? Or are you just looking at that and saying "he's out of his mind" without further investigation? Have you had a look at other people findings that show the same thing? I have. Have you?

Also you say that earth rotation is due to angular momentum. What causes that momentum? You think that we're still spinning from billions of years ago when the earth formed and it was just spinning this way? I don't think so. We are living in an electric universe. There are electric and magnetic differences here, there, everywhere. You might htink, well the earths magnetic field has decreased like 15% or something over the last few centuries, or whatever, why aren't we slowing down then? Well it's because it's still strong enough and is above a terminal limit. You know like terminal velocity, how air resistance slows you down and you can't fall any faster. Or you're putting your foot to the metal and the magnetic engine isn't spinning any faster, it's reached it's peak limit of being able to do anything. We're still above that peak limit. We won't be for long though, it's certainly going to drop off. Mark my words, the 2040's are going to be nuts.

originally posted by: Byrd
Hang on... you're changing the story...

You said....

originally posted by: DaRAGE
He's not talking about going around in a circle. He's talking about the 12,960 years it takes for the sun to go from being at the middle of the galactic plane to wherer we bottom out and then back to the middle again, which then takes another 12,960 years to go from the middle of the galactic plane, to the top part we go and then back to the middle.

And I said that was wrong. That it was 60 million (30 million years for half a bob) and linked to the data that proved it.

And then you responded with...

I dont think that the founder of the diehold foundation has ever mentioned that in his lectures. That was my own guess at a possible cause every 12000 or so years, not his.

This contradicts your first statement where you specifically say he gives this as a cause.

And I say he's wrong and the facts show he's wrong (and if you decided to actually do the measurements yourself you'd find out that he was wrong)

My first quote above, i was posting in regards to what this person was posting about. :www.abovetopsecret.com...
I was just trying to clarify what I thought that poster was posting about. I never said that was what doug from the diehold foundation said.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: DaRAGE
a reply to: kerunc1974

Its in the stories from different parts of the world.

Some Indian stories say that a freaking alien lead them into a cave that went underground and told them to stay there underground until the tree above started whose roots they could see, started doing something.

No stories from India match this.

The sumerians had a thing about enki telling them when they see the people who created them leaving in their rockets into space, then they were to go to the mountains.

And that's just plain fabricated. No such Sumerian story (as you can see if you check the Sumerian corpus of texts)

In China there was a story about how dragon eggs were falling from the sky whilst they took shelter in a cave, also the atmosphere compressed down and they were only able to breathe by putting their heads to the ground.

Is there a link to this story? I'm pretty sure it's false (or that a true tale has been reworked to suit another narrative)

There are tons of man made caves popping up being dated at 12k years ago.

Any link to these created caves and their locations? "Tons" implies that there should be manmade shelters in many locations and that they are fairly well known.

Then theres the noahs ark story.

The ocean drops like 140 meters overnight. Over the next 1100 years or so it regains about 60 or so meters.

North America had an ice cap 4 miles thick. The amount of snow to get than astronomical.

Two miles thick, and that was the most extreme point The whole slab was not a consistent 2 miles thick. So it's "half astronomical" or even "one third of astronomical"... and some of that ice is still there today.

The amount of energy to evaporate the ocean 140 meters is astronomical.

Over a short time period, yes.

The sun Novas

Our sun won't go nova. It doesn't have a dwarf companion star, so it can't go nova It will turn into a red giant, however.

the ocean evaporates a ton of water, the poles flip, the earth slows down and rotates the opposite direction, the ocean goes over the land, the dust shell hits one side of the earth and blows off some atmosphere at the back, you get an instant ice age at the back of the earth as the air rushes around to the front to fill in the low pressure zone created by the dust shell pushing the atmosphere the to back to the earth.

That's not correct. IF our sun went nova, it would destroy the entire solar system. When it becomes a red giant, the inner part of the solar system will be swallowed up by the star's expansion. But the sun doesn't turn into a red giant for a few microseconds and then return to its normal state.

The sun goes darker for a period. It rains a ton. Hot rain at the start, then it snows and snows and snows.

I think you need to do a bit more reading on astronomy, novas, and the life cycle of our sun.

I said Indian, I meant North American Indian. Not people from India.

Look I don't have the time to go back and "find" you references, and links, and posts to the multitude of stories that I've heard, that you apparently seem to be an expert in. But I know for certain you havn't viewed the diehold foundation video.

Perhaps spend the time and actually go through those videos.

Then come back huh.

You should check out this video. 40 minutes. Might help explain some things for you. Catastrophe, Randall Carlson. Its a beaut. Check it out.

a reply to: DaRAGE

You think that we're still spinning from billions of years ago when the earth formed and it was just spinning this way? I don't think so.

Why not? What would make it stop?

Did you know that Mars has no global magnetic field, and yet it persists in rotating? Weird, huh?

How come the Earth's rotation doesn't change when the Sun's magnetic field reverses?

a reply to: Phage

Earths rotation has nothing to do with the suns magnetic field.

Look maybe im wrong. Could be a good probability. But there is tons of evidence that the earth has these disaster cycles.

a reply to: DaRAGE

But there is tons of evidence that the earth has these disaster cycles.

Not really.

Some major global events, indeed. Cycles, not so much.

Glacial periods are somewhat cyclical. They do have a major effect and could be considered disastrous I suppose. A very, very slow disaster. But that cycle is on the order of hundreds of thousands of years, not 12,000.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DaRAGE

But there is tons of evidence that the earth has these disaster cycles.

Not really.

Some major global events, indeed. Cycles, not so much.

Glacial periods are somewhat cyclical. They do have a major effect and could be considered disastrous I suppose. A very, very slow disaster. But that cycle is on the order of hundreds of thousands of years, not 12,000.

Nah I disagree with you there. Plenty of evidence. Ill find the evidence for you later on tonight, so you can have a look at it.

a reply to: DaRAGE

Cool.

But please, make sure you provide global disasters, not various local disasters from different localities. Things that happened everywhere on Earth at the same time in a 12,000 year "cycle." And, according to the description (rotation stopping and reversing) pretty durn major stuff.

originally posted by: DaRAGE

I said Indian, I meant North American Indian. Not people from India.

Curious. The Hindus do indeed have beliefs about planetary cycles and groups of years. Native Americans... I've never heard of any tribe having such a belief.

Look I don't have the time to go back and "find" you references, and links, and posts to the multitude of stories that I've heard, that you apparently seem to be an expert in. But I know for certain you havn't viewed the diehold foundation video.

Perhaps spend the time and actually go through those videos.

If I said "look, I don't have time to explain/give links for things that I'm talking about... just watch this three hour set of videos" -- would YOU watch all of them?

How about just ONE link?

a reply to: Byrd
a reply to: Phage

This is Part 1 of my evidence I am presenting. This is the very start. I am a bit time constrained now. So please bear with me. Starting with the stories of our ancestors.




Series 5, Part 1; The Legends of the Last Great Flood & Nova and How Some People Survived It.

I suggest you watch the whole video, but I have placed some times below that you can jump to. Given the nature of these things some people have a hard time coming to grips with it all. I suggest you start at 6:18 just to have that sink in. lol ;-p

Then you can move down to 22:57 as per below.

Stories told by different peoples/cultures around the world.
Mentions of Sun/Nova, Wind, Cold, Darkness, Falling rocks or tektites, flood, deluge, rotation change, caves, etc. and the amount of times they mention it.

In between the time periods below are all snippets from the stories from all the different cultures world wide listed below.

22:57 North American: Eskimos, Tacullics Indians-BC Canada, Dog-Rib Indians-Northwest, Wyandot Indians, Takahlis Indians-Northwest, Mattole Indians-N, Calif, Ute Indians-Utak, Gallinomero Indians-Calif, Lake Tahoe Indians-Calif, Algonquin Indians-E. Canada, Dekota Indians-E Dakota, Wintum Indians-Northwest, Pawnee Indians-Nebraska, Ojibway Indians-Great Lakes, Iroquois Indians-Lake Erie,
Witchita Indians-Oaklahoma, Navajos Indians-Southwest, Zuni Indians-Southwest, Creek & Chewkee-Southwest, Creek & Chewkee-Southwest, Choctaw Indians-Louisiana.

30:02 Central America Indians: Mayan-Mexico, Quiches Indians-Guatemala, Toltecs, Pimas Tribe-Gulf of Calif., Guaymis Indians-Costa Rica, Nicaraguan Indians, Mixtecs Indians, Aztec-Mexico, Teotl Lixco Indians-Mexico.

35:02 South America: Tubis Indians-Brazil, Mbocobi Indians-Paraguay, Botocudos Indians-Brazil, Yurucare Indians-Bolivia, Peruvian Indians, Muyscas Indians-Columbia, Incas-Peru.

38:03 Polynesia - Menehune Indians-New Zealand, Hawaiians, Samoan Islands, Marquesian Islands, Cook Islands, New Zealand, Tonga Island, Polynesia, Micronesia, New Guinea to Fiji, Australia,

41:49 Southeast Asia: Indonesia, Northern Borneo, The Phillipines.
Asia: China, Mongols, Japan, Siberia.

47:18 Asia Subcontinent: India.

Middle-East: Babylon, Iran, Hebrews/Jews, Egypt.

58:47 Europe: Greece, Voguls, Tartars-Central Russia, Nordics, Britons(Gaelic).

1:03:57 - Watch at least until 1:11:00 and check out the coal deposits and how it all goes.


Like I said. These are just stories (though not the coal). But I think these stories have similarities.

a reply to: DaRAGE

That's a gish gallop. Please show a 12,000 year cycle, in your own words, please. Feel free to annotate your words with actual references. "Look at this video" does not qualify.

a reply to: Phage

You know what. Screw it. I ain't got time for this #.

You know... It's an actual conspiracy. Doug Vought tells it like it is. He even goes into the reasons why. You know why it's hard to find the data on the internet... Coz its hidden from the public sphere. And then when i present to you some information, "it's all pish posh, not in the format i want".

Hey I gave you MY sources. Randall Carlson, Doug Vought, Suspicious Observers (Ben), Graham Hancock, etc. But hey. I watch most of their content in video format. You want other formats look them up yourself. I'm done here.


Oh By the way Phage. Good on you for dismissing basically the entire worlds cultures and stories passed down for millenia. I'm sure they're all wrong.

a reply to: livinglight108

It could be because of a supernova that would be seen with our naked eyes. Maybe the Betelgeuse. All in all, it will just be the combinations of them all. Supernova, climate change, icebergs melting, forest fires, geomagnetic pulse, magnetic field changing, etc, etc.

We truly now are in the end times. Or is it a new beginning? Should we then look forward towards this new Mother Earth?

Welcome then to those who belong to A New Dimension.

They most certainly do have evidence that it happened 24 and 36,000 years ago and so on do some more research on it. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there is an overwhelming amount of actual scientific evidence about this posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: TzarChasm

The reason I doubt this kinda stuff is that they say "We have evidence it happened 12,000 years ago " and then call it a cycle.

Ok, do they have evidence it happened every 12,000 ? Can they show it happened at 24, 36 and 48,000 years ? If not, then it's not a cycle and just more Doom Porn wrapped up in some scientific sounding jargon.

If they do, then I'll pay attention.

youtube doug vaught diehold foundation

Heres some of your cycle