Do you trust and follow the science?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I'm sure that you, not being an MD, are much smarter and well informed than a leading and highly published cardiologist.

Good job!

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You may or may not be aware of this, but some people on this forum are scientists or researchers, and are used to being given access to the root information rather than simply being told the conclusion.

When someone tells me to trust them but absolutely refuses to give me access to their source data I have a tendency to smell a rat.

I can get access to the science from the people who support things like vaccinations and mask mandates, I can't even get the names of most of the people supposedly killed by the vax. They're just nameless friends or friends of friends.

If the anti-vaxxers want me to trust their science then they should publish their science, and not hide behind anonymous reports on Rumble or Bitchute. How many of these people do you think would ever return my calls, let alone send me their data?

If I had evidence that the vax was dangerous I could get tenure at the redbrick of my choice, and could probably retire on the money from the book deals and signing tours, so I've got every reason to expose any conspiracy that I could actually prove, but, so far ... nada.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I'm sure that you, not being an MD, are much smarter and well informed than a leading and highly published cardiologist.

Good job!

Yes, but which one of us is more qualified in this specific field?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Between you and him??

How many patients have you seen, diagnosed, prescribed meds or recommended surgery for??

My sister, who already had both vaccines and 2 boosters, received a flue and third booster at the same time. She became so sick, she had to be in bed for 3 days and it took her a few more days before she could go back to work. She even tested herself 3 times, and came up negative.

I do not think a flue shot and booster should be considered. If you are going to get both, get them separated by a few weeks.

What the hell do I know, except what happened to her was real.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You may or may not be aware of this, but some people on this forum are scientists or researchers, and are used to being given access to the root information rather than simply being told the conclusion.

When someone tells me to trust them but absolutely refuses to give me access to their source data I have a tendency to smell a rat.

I can get access to the science from the people who support things like vaccinations and mask mandates, I can't even get the names of most of the people supposedly killed by the vax. They're just nameless friends or friends of friends.

If the anti-vaxxers want me to trust their science then they should publish their science, and not hide behind anonymous reports on Rumble or Bitchute. How many of these people do you think would ever return my calls, let alone send me their data?

If I had evidence that the vax was dangerous I could get tenure at the redbrick of my choice, and could probably retire on the money from the book deals and signing tours, so I've got every reason to expose any conspiracy that I could actually prove, but, so far ... nada.

It is true that some members here are graduates, scientists, and researchers. You will be surprised if you really knew who these people are...

Appealing to authority isn't a way to advance your views, generally speaking. Evidence and facts are a much better way to argue and of course when evidence and facts are deriving from those who don't have conflict of interests.

You may not want to have a look at data that shows about the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccines not because data doesn't exist but because you don't want to see the data and evidence. They are several pieces of published data on this site and I have included many in my threads.

You are in a denial and are engaging in vaccine apologetics.

The irony is that someone has given you a star...
Oh dear! As you say in the UK (I suppose).

originally posted by: karl 12

Trust the science for now and wait for the data in 75 years!!!

Hahaha

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I'm sure that you, not being an MD, are much smarter and well informed than a leading and highly published cardiologist.

Good job!

Yes, but which one of us is more qualified in this specific field?

Let's put it this way. You are not qualified at all. But that's not where the issue is. When qualified scientists are discredited online or there are several attempts to discredit them, defame them, and assassinate their character, then there is something really wrong going on here. Especially when they are known to have spoken against this Covid ideology and pointed out to the flaws.

a reply to: charlyv

A friend of mine did the same the week of thanksgiving last year. He has had no appetite since. He has to force himself to eat even though he doesn't feel hungry.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I find interesting that you don't see any evidence of vaccine injuries. Strange.

Because most of us here have seen and linked plenty of evidence in the form of research papers, peer-reviewed or pre-prints as well as reports from journals and articles in reasonably good newspapers.

Either you haven't seen the evidence or you don't want to see the evidence.

originally posted by: charlyv
My sister, who already had both vaccines and 2 boosters, received a flue and third booster at the same time. She became so sick, she had to be in bed for 3 days and it took her a few more days before she could go back to work. She even tested herself 3 times, and came up negative.

I do not think a flue shot and booster should be considered. If you are going to get both, get them separated by a few weeks.

What the hell do I know, except what happened to her was real.

They are arguing people to get vaccinated with both of the vaccines at the same time. They also argue that the combination is safe and effective.
We have heard this dogma before. But it's up to the individual what to do.

Apparently you understand where I am coming from.

time.com...

The article argues why we should trust science when it comes to vaccines and climate change. It's from 2019, so not thet long time ago. But I wonder if they still hold the same views.

Trust the science when it comes to vaccines
Trust the science when it comes to climate change
Trust the science when it comes to manipulation and indoctrination of the masses.
Trust the science when it comes to the transgender ideology.

The article above needs further analysis. They even discuss about Greta Thunberg who is a well known left wing and climate change ideologist and she has is quite irrelevant with mathematics and physics as well as all other sciences. You may have listened online to her paranoic and delusional speeches.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

There's a thread on here where the OP posts endlessly about folk that have gotten Ill or died suddenly which have included suicides, car crash victims, gunshot victims, folk in their 80's - lately even Pele, for example.

That sort of evidence?

Do you call that evidence?

Just wondering.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I'm sure that you, not being an MD, are much smarter and well informed than a leading and highly published cardiologist.

Good job!

Yes, but which one of us is more qualified in this specific field?

As it relates to the science, you are the least qualified person on the planet.

a reply to: karl 12

Nope, 75 years was the time that it would take for a team of 22 people to release all of the documents in batches of 10,000 pages.

What they actually got was protection from people spamming them with FOIA requests.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I'm sure that you, not being an MD, are much smarter and well informed than a leading and highly published cardiologist.

Good job!

Yes, but which one of us is more qualified in this specific field?

As it relates to the science, you are the least qualified person on the planet.

Given your track record, which includes believing that the vax made people magnetic, and that people became Bluetooth transmitters, you're probably the least person here who's least able to determine that.

You have a record of literally zero hits.

Remember when that airline pilot who died in a mountain biking accident who you were absolutely convinced died because his vax reacted to altitude, or that time you said that masks would give children carbon monoxide poisoning, or was it carbon dioxide poisoning?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yet amazingly, it's all been released....

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

What qualifications do you have in science?

Genuine question, since you raised the issue?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I find interesting that you don't see any evidence of vaccine injuries. Strange.

Because most of us here have seen and linked plenty of evidence in the form of research papers, peer-reviewed or pre-prints as well as reports from journals and articles in reasonably good newspapers.

Either you haven't seen the evidence or you don't want to see the evidence.

I find it strange that you don't remember me specifically talking about the extremely small number of actual cases. I posted in detail about them and used them to demonstrate how different reports on real vax injuries were from fake ones.

Do you remember me lecturing you on how real reports included names, and came with coroner's reports. They had verifiable dates, and were often part of public inquiries. Lots of records, everything out in the open, no friend of a friend making an unsubstantiated claim.

In fact I used the extremely small number of real cases to demonstrate how this clearly wasn't being covered up.