Why do some seem to see it without having to be shown??

My first real pinky into the pond moment was when my mother for some reason sat me down in 1976 to tell me about JFK, and the assassination. Not sure why, but it was because of some money I found in a bible. The currency that JFK created. My mother explained to me that he was killed over money as much as she understood it.

After that, it was a fascination with UFO’s and all things unusual. Pretty soon you realize that you live in a world of manufactured reality, and you spend the rest of your life ignoring the stimuli or reacting to it. a reply to: MaxxAction

originally posted by: MaxxAction

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At no time in history has this ever been more true, however, as to your point about humans being uncontrollable, I disagree.
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I am so pleased! Don't get me wrong, I am not looking for a verbal battle, but for members with whom I can explore this topic - which means a bit more to me than others. You see, I have long chaffed against a couple of world-class often quoted memes and adages... just to provide some idea of what I'm referring to:

People/sheeple/cattle
People are easy to control
People are stupid

These memes have been propagated by media ad infinitum, reduced into cool phrases in movies, quips repeated over and over in theater and on radio. People exchange the sentiment without thought and embrace it as if it were some reality-evoking mantra. But I will not accept that as some 'wisdom' as if it were as real as "people breathe air."

Rather than embark on one of my long-winded monologues, I will provide you with an escape path to avoid the extra work a conversation of this nature might entail. Suffice to say that if we were so easy to control... this conversation would not be happening. I am drafting a thread which I intend to entitle "Humans cannot be controlled" at some point in the future I would hope that you visit and share your thoughts.

My parents are both in their 80s, and they have come to understand, much of it with help from me, what the world has been about for the last hundred years.

I am very happy that you achieved this connection with your parents (at least one of them,) it is something I never had the opportunity to do...

... People from that generation grew up taking the word of Walter Cronkite as gospel, and many cannot imagine a world where the government is against it's own citizens.

While I can't be certain, I suspect that Mr. Cronkite was of their mindset as well. And he wouldn't be the only one within that body of nascent "journalists" (back when there was such a thing) to be similarly afflicted.

That the thing that allows people to collectively "see" what's going on around them was sequestered away for an elites' agenda was noticed - and we were warned that it was happening. Social engineering as a tool for the imposition of control began long before the internet. The tradition of controlling the medium to control the message has failed to conform to the elites' agenda. Some might say it was an aspect of the internet that was not considered, I say it was inevitable because people can not be controlled.

I had a patient in his late 70s come in to the office last year all sniffling and coughing. I asked him why he was out when he was sick. "He responded something to the effect of:" Well, it can't be covid because I have had my vaccine and booster."

It seems to me that he simply listened to some media talking-head/celebrity "declare" that the vaccine would be the miraculously effective protection we were informed it would be. And he believed it. It is a newer form of ignorance, the one where the ignorant are not unwilling to learn, just lied to with a socially reinforced maxim which simply does not conform to reality.

... That would require the 10 of the 100 who are willing to fight to convince the rest that it is a battle worth dying in.

I'm exploring the idea that the basest illusion (along with the one about us being cattle, etc.) impeding meaningful change and growth of the human community is the idea that "they" control everything, "they" will kill us, and "they" will destroy everything if we resist them. There need be no death and death struggle for us. Only an awakening to reality. It may sound crass but, in the end, - they don't control # - they SAY they do, their media and academic fonts of words SAY they do, but you know... they have said a lot of things... and a great deal of it is mostly false and basely disingenuous.

I propose that this, almost ethereal "they," are failing, and their rate of failure is increasing and intensifying. In fact, I suspect that there is more reason for hope about the human race than they are comfortable admitting. Their idiotically ill-fated attempts to "harness" the human condition for fun and profit is driving all of them directly to hell... and their "life boat" only accommodates a precious few... the impending scuffle for the "get away with it" prize might even be amusing were it not for the suffering that will likely accompany it.

We may not actually need a revolution... we just need to wake the hell up.

Honestly, the Deep State always seems to turn out even deeper than any of us ever thought. It’s like going diehard the rabbit hike…. Goes pretty deep. Just when I think I’ve heard it all I hear something that is far worse than even G Orwell wrote about. By the way, I read “Nineteen Eighty Four” at age 14 and somehow knew it was real. Im somewhere in the “late Bloomers” Boomer gen x so that can tell you how long ago that was.
The most diabolical thing I’ve come across is the post someone made on ATS recently about AI and all the light poles going up which have the ability to kill sone one on the door….very bizarre and tied into 5g and smart phones.
So they got the Tesla technology and have totally abused it. Back in the 80’s, I heard about the “psychotronics” which the Russians developed as a weapon. The elites always develop weapons of mass destruction whenever they can, instead of using technology foevtge greater good ( which is purportedly the ideal of the socialists but they turn out always to be totalitarian dictators).

originally posted by: MaxxAction
The term "Conspiracy Theorist" is a badge I wear proudly...

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How did I catch that without anyone having to show me, but many, these days especially, you could show hours of video, volumes of sworn testimony from those within that system telling us that such a system exists and it's horrific goals for humanity, and they refuse to even consider it a possibility? How does anyone?

Your question is psychological in its essence and it's very hard to give a comprehensive answer.

However I'm almost sure that those awoken people are so from birth and the secret lies at whatever happened to their souls/minds during their long existence before this current life, i.e. past lives. It's directly related to their personal negative/positive karma. In short the powerful analytical minds are "wired" differently.

I have a strong feeling that this is a very complex issue, there's no simple answer and only those evil beings (especially in the spirit realms) that control this universe know very well the said answer.

nsive answer. However I'm almost sure that those awoken people are so from birth and the secret lies at whatever happened to their souls/minds during their long existence before this current life, i.e. past lives. It's directly related to their personal negative/positive karma. In short the powerful analytical minds are "wired" differently.

a reply to: miri2019

We have been reincarnating for many thousands of years. Some of us longer than others. Since this is a conspiracy site, we can explore some different ideas, right? Thus, there is the story of “root races”. This concept was explored in the the Theosophical Society. The “seventh root race” is supposed to incarnate in South America sometime relatively soon. They are to be new sound who have never incarnated ever before! We have some housecleaning to do before an entire new group of souls enter.
Then there is the Book of Enoch, which tells the story of the fallen angels(or Nephilim gods) who fell to earth and took to themselves the “daughters of men.” That explains how mankind on earth were corrupted when they were taught by the Nephilim the art of war and the ornamentation of women …
These things might sound really crazy to some people, but then so does the idea that we will be living in these prison cell grids where everything we do is tracked by light poles and biometric information from our cell phone cameras. Sounds nuts doesn’t it? The interview with a techie guy was posted somewhere on ats recently.
So, anyway, personally I’m certain I had a number of Hindu embodiments, and thus I relate to the Vedic knowledge.
So what does this all mean? We have globalist power elites who are Princes of this World who seem to be very powerful, and we have young souls who seem naive and clueless, and older souls who have been around the block a few times. And a few gradations of every category. That’s the simple version I guess.

My first real pinky into the pond moment was when my mother for some reason sat me down in 1976 to tell me about JFK, and the assassination. Not sure why, but it was because of some money I found in a bible. The currency that JFK created. My mother explained to me that he was killed over money as much as she understood it.

After that, it was a fascination with UFO’s and all things unusual. Pretty soon you realize that you live in a world of manufactured reality, and you spend the rest of your life ignoring the stimuli or reacting to it. a reply to: MaxxAction

a reply to: Fairtrade141

Same...

Ghosts, spirituality, God, Angels, UFOs, anything that exists outside the main stream of thought for most fascinate me.

I have had a UFO encounter.

I have been in a house that had a mischievous ghost that would open every cabinet in the place every night.

I have had straight up old testament type visions.

I had a conversation with Jesus in a dream.

I cast a demon out of a possessed homeless woman.

I'm like lightning rod for it.

a reply to: Maxmars

I agree with a lot of your post...

and my disagreement with your previous post wasn't really a challenge, just discussion.

Suffice to say that if we were so easy to control... this conversation would not be happening. I am drafting a thread which I intend to entitle "Humans cannot be controlled" at some point in the future I would hope that you visit and share your thoughts.

I know that ALL people aren't easy to control. But there is a larger percentage now than at any time past because of the internet. It's a constant conveyor of distraction and delusion for most.

My oldest son tells people all the time how smart I am, and about the # I have taught myself to do over the years.He has heard me preach about how we should never trust our government. He also won't let me meet my first grandchild because I won't get vaccinated.

We had plans to go there last year, but he and his liberal wife decided that they didn't want her around us unless we had been vaccinated. Regardless of how much I talked, how much information I shared, no matter what research, empirical data, or anecdotal evidence showing that the vaccine is dangerous, he wouldn't believe me. I am not a doctor you see.

It seems to me that he simply listened to some media talking-head/celebrity "declare" that the vaccine would be the miraculously effective protection we were informed it would be. And he believed it. It is a newer form of ignorance, the one where the ignorant are not unwilling to learn, just lied to with a socially reinforced maxim which simply does not conform to reality.

I think many of these people just fed themselves a steady 24/7 diet of scrolling death on varying news networks, and therefore got the full impact of the propaganda being thrown at them. I know this to be the case with my M.I.L. that moved in with us back in April. She lived by herself in Florida, and she literally sat with CNN on all day. She was terrified out of her mind for a long time. She called us a few times begging us to get vaccinated because she was convinced we were going to die.

The good news is there is no news on in this house. She is more relaxed, happier, has put on weight, and she isn't scared anymore. I had omicron back in may and she got to see me get past it in three days through the use of Zinc, C, quercetin, Quinine, and IVM.

I propose that this, almost ethereal "they," are failing, and their rate of failure is increasing and intensifying. In fact, I suspect that there is more reason for hope about the human race than they are comfortable admitting. Their idiotically ill-fated attempts to "harness" the human condition for fun and profit is driving all of them directly to hell... and their "life boat" only accommodates a precious few...

I agree with this, but my spiritual view is mostly based on Christian tradition. It is, IMHO, (YOMV), not man's efforts that are holding it back. I believe that Lucifer, and his earthbound, and inter-dimensional minions are attempting to alter the timeline that God has already established eons ago. Once it is established, spoken into the timeline, it cannot be undone. Yahweh won't have it.

I believe I have been perceiving for a couple of years that something big is coming to blow a lot of these evil bastards right out of the water, and lay them naked for all to see their evil. Hoisted by their own petard, as it were. I personally think that whatever it is will occur in such a way as to be unmistakably done by the hand of Almighty God.

We will see.

That's a tough one. Why do some people retain fragmented memories from a past life. Or why Savants know what they know?

I guess for me it all started when I was a young child. Don't ask me how, I just knew the world was all wrong. People shouldn't be treating each other the way they do. Not all people just certain ones. It was as if I could look inside people and see a deeper truth in them.

Through research I have discovered that this world we live in, actually is, a world of hurt. And, it is by design. This corruption of the human spirit didn't start yesterday, it goes all the way back to the origins.

It may boil down to some may have simple divine inspiration. Some, may be inspired by "other" forces. But for the most part if they are not inspired to look, then they have no reason to do so. They live in a fabricated world with fabricated boundaries, and they haven't a clue to look further.

Most people live day to day clinging onto, hope. Hope for a better life, better world. And I pray, its on the way..

a reply to: MaxxAction

It can be really heart-breaking to experience the result of social-engineering on a personal level. I wish things like estrangement and shunning were less prevalent these days. But take heart - you may have noticed, these things lose their edge over time - the more unreasonable it is the more they must pound it into us - a la 9/11 and COVID porn. They haven't the resources and stamina to maintain a religious fervor about their "scenarios." And the internet didn't work out for them as they obviously hoped it would.

Time is on our side.

I encourage my friends to take succor in their faith. That's what its there for. Therein has always been wisdom.

The conversation about luciferian plans and satanic practices is a 'conspiratorial' angle which merits a thread of its own. I will admit that I foresee a terrible fall for many of our world's "operators" as well. And I suspect they see it too. Their prideful unwillingness to make amends will be the salt in their wounds.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

I would like to flatter myself, and say that I too discovered early on that something was wrong. But truthfully I never started 'seeing' things differently until my second or third exposure to a new culture. Then, a couple of things became clearer to me...

1 - People are not so different from one another as our governments, spiritual ideologues, and certainly NEWS agencies seemed to be TELLING US WE ARE.

2 - It is easy to report that "everyone thinks/feels this way" when in fact they don't.

3 - Some people "get off" on proclaiming things.

4 - People are not stupid.

5 - In many cases, the louder and more insistent some people are - the less genuine their resolve turns out to be.

a reply to: Maxmars

I dont flatter myself for my childhood, its been more like a curse.

The conversation about luciferian plans and satanic practices is a 'conspiratorial' angle which merits a thread of its own. I will admit that I foresee a terrible fall for many of our world's "operators" as well. And I suspect they see it too. Their prideful unwillingness to make amends will be the salt in their wounds.

We have been raised into a closed world, closed to ancient truths. As you point out the media help to support this false narrative.

1 - People are not so different from one another as our governments, spiritual ideologues, and certainly NEWS agencies seemed to be TELLING US WE ARE.

We may come from different cultures and backgrounds but the vast majority of us, all have the same color soul, spirit.

4 - People are not stupid.

Sadly, some are. And honestly, the vast majority are ignorant. But it is no more their faults for that as a sheep standing in a pen.

That Luciferian plan isn't a conspiracy, its fact. And as I said goes back to the origins. Its hard to put into words but we really do live in a Matrix, I call the matrix of lies. There are a small percentage of Operators that are actually human Chameleons who walk with us, live with us, but programed to deceive(Ancient family bloodlines). They worm their way into positions of power or influence manipulating the system to serve themselves at our expense. Though the generations they have grafted together self serving scams we do not see, but yet guide our destinies.

3 - Some people "get off" on proclaiming things.

It is the above class that are the pied pipers directing humanity into conflict, religions, or educational paradigms, always at our expense of one form or another. This class is reflected in the movie "They Live" as the soulless aliens who are all about profit.

Our world and spiritual views have been given to us by the institutions they formulated long ago. And wrote themselves out of history. And as time has gone by more and more people such as yourself start to see the cracks in the story line. This or that just doesn't make sense, then people may start to realize everything must have a reason, and then, they search for it. And one day, they may find it. And that is the day the final countdown for the Adversary starts.

And its almost here..

So your comments are true and false at the same time. All depending on which side of the matrix you stand

originally posted by: TheGhoul
In history class our teacher played the movie J.F.K for us.

Unless he was showing it as an example of revisionist history, he should've been fired. About the only things that are accurate in that movie are the names and dates.

The problem these days and back then is people are being conditioned to consider tptb as their new God, a reply to: MaxxAction

originally posted by: MaxxAction
The term "Conspiracy Theorist" is a badge I wear proudly...

My first glimpse behind the curtain came after my first son was born. Up until that time, I didn't pay a lot of attention to what was coming out of the TV, politics, or how the media, even thirty years ago, was conditioning the people of earth to think a certain way. After he was born, I thought maybe I should start paying more attention.

When Bob Dole was running against Bill Clinton, every time they showed Clinton, he was laughing, or looking cool wearing sunglasses and playing a saxophone on Arsenio Hall's show, or walking hand in hand with his devoted wife (puke) on the beach.

Conversely, every time they showed shots of Dole, he was looking dour, or angry, and they always had to make sure they got his gimpy hand in the picture.

Not that Dole was a great man, and would have been any better of a president that Clinton was, and I know to many it doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is precisely how the system works to alter how we look at the world, what we think, eat, consume, buy, who we support, and who we vote for.

Since figuring that out, my trust of anything that comes out of government, movies, music, or media has grown to the point where I don't trust anything without doing my own research.

How did I catch that without anyone having to show me, but many, these days especially, you could show hours of video, volumes of sworn testimony from those within that system telling us that such a system exists and it's horrific goals for humanity, and they refuse to even consider it a possibility? How does anyone?

All media outlets do it... on both sides of the political spectrum.

a reply to: MaxxAction

It’s called ‘narrative intelligence’ and requires critical thinking.

originally posted by: ketsuko
I have an intuitive style of thought. It sets me up to see patterns. You just start seeing it.

True consciousness. An open mind, and yet more. You have been given the gift to recognize (see what isn't so readily seen; intuit) patterns, direction and perhaps even along with that a sense of intent.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: Fairtrade141

Same...

Ghosts, spirituality, God, Angels, UFOs, anything that exists outside the main stream of thought for most fascinate me.

I have had a UFO encounter.

I have been in a house that had a mischievous ghost that would open every cabinet in the place every night.

I have had straight up old testament type visions.

I had a conversation with Jesus in a dream.

I cast a demon out of a possessed homeless woman.

I'm like lightning rod for it.

What did Jesus say to you?

a reply to: BiffTannen

When the Dream started, Jesus and I were sitting at a table of an outdoor seating area of a coffee shop drinking coffee...

Jesus looked like a non descript middle eastern man, dressed in what he would have worn during the time he was on earth. We were talking, but not verbally. We were communicating mind to mind. I finish my coffee, and Jesus says: "Let's go for a walk."

So we are just walking around in this big city, and as we passed people on the sidewalk, Jesus would prompt me to look at them, and he would explain about their backgrounds, what had hurt them. Like their father abused them, they were neglected as a child, they had lost their family to a hateful wife, and everyone we passed had something terrible in their past that was holding them back.

So wherever we were was a big city with huge buildings and skyscrapers. After we had walked for awhile longer, we stop, and I look over, and in between two of these big buildings, there is an ornate Iron fence that is absolutely covered with lush vegetation, and huge flowering plants.

He motions for me to follow him, and we open the gate in this fence, and step inside. He closed the gate behind us, and immediately, all the noise of the cars, traffic, air conditioners, etc., was gone. This place was like the outside of the fence, large lush trees and plants, flowers, a running brook, singing birds, I imagine it was the way most would imagine paradise.

So I am just there taking all this in, and Jesus says: "I need to get going" and he opens a door on the right side of this little paradise and starts out. When he's almost out, he sticks his head back in and asks me, "Hey, what was that beat you were playing in church today?" I thought for a second, and I said, "Oh, this one?" and I start beat boxing this drum beat I was playing during a worship song that morning. What was interesting about it is that that morning, I played that song completely different than I ever had before.

Jesus says: "Yeah, that's the one, keep going!" So I am there, beat boxing for Jesus, and pretty soon I start to dance, and Jesus is grooving with me, and he says: "Man, that is really funky! Keep it up!"

Then I woke up.

There is some deep meaning there that pertained to my spiritual walk at that point in my life, and this dream confirmed something for me that I had been struggling with.

a reply to: MaxxAction

Jesus says: "Yeah, that's the one, keep going!" So I am there, beat boxing for Jesus, and pretty soon I start to dance, and Jesus is grooving with me, and he says: "Man, that is really funky! Keep it up!"

I am presently being haunted by a tune, it is a short little song that carry's a deep deep meaning, similar to your dream. The melody is, to say the least, enchanting, but the lyrics vibrate my soul. Vibrations are a magical thing. What tune, vibrations, would unite, the world...

And if you continue the vibration, sooner or later the entire earth will be vibrating, in unison. Except maybe, those that are not from here, and vibrate to different gods tune, they, wont be vibrating And the clowns will be seen, for what they truly are.

You got to love, dreams...............




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