The Sun how much longer, Do we really know ?

One day we will be without our Sun and Beach front property will be worthless however Lava front will be all the rage .

Our summers are getting hotter much hotter then I remember when I was a kid the Sun really didn't bother me Now I cannot stand in direct sunlight more then 10 Min . Our winters are getting colder something is up with our good old reliable Sun.

Lets say it actually goes rouge would we be able to survive by migrating to warmer more internal sources of heat like Volcanoes hot , hot springs etc...

Or do you believe we will just burn up like science say's the Sun will expand grow and swallow up the Earth .

To this day I can't understand how the Sun keeps burning the same log and not run out of fuel it actually makes no sense at all , Burn a gallon of gas it's gone How does the sun replenish that much fuel to burn for eons ?

We have under ground Coal fires that burn for years but they burn out once the fuel is gone .

So does mankind retreat under ground closer to the core or will even that go cold ?

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

To be honest, where I live in middle Europe I don`t encounter drastic changes in weather over the last 40 years - but that may be a local thing when protected by many large mountains.

For the sun not burning out you have to realise the the sun is not actually burning. It is fusing hydrogen to helium wich creates massive amounts of engery - billions times more than burning would do.

Odds are your older so produce less UV blocking oils which is why you now burn faster in the sun. Also you might have changed locations geographically in relation to the equator which could give differences in sun intensity. That or the Suns gunna blow. The sun burns differently then a gallon of gas because it uses fusion. Yes the sun will eventually do all the things you say. It will swallow earth then it blows then it goes dark

No if the sun is gone so are we. Much of the earths on internal energy comes from the suns gravity pulling. No sun no magma.

I believe they can tell how long a sun has left by its colour and that corresponded to what elements it’s burning. Heavier elements means closer to death.
a reply to: Ravenwatcher

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

The Sun is not burning in any way. It is an open fusion reactor. It squeezes atoms together by gravity and they fuse into heavier atoms.

If the Sun goes out, all the air will freeze solid. How would you burn coal without oxygen in air?

No worries about answering that as you would freeze solid long before the air does. You are mostly water and that freezes at a much higher temperature than any of the other gasses in the Earth's air.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
To this day I can't understand how the Sun keeps burning the same log and not run out of fuel it actually makes no sense at all

Lucifer never runs out self-satisfaction.

a reply to: Ravenwatcher Yeah, I noticed that too about the Sun. In my 49+ years of being on Earth, this year I too couldn't stand being in the sun for more than 10 minutes. My face and neck would get it the worst. I read a lot about solar flares and sunspots in the news online this year. I don't know about living next to hot springs and volcanic sources though, I've never been close to one.

The earth is going through a cycle-something it's done for millions of years. The super rich found a way to financially profit from a very normal occurance that they have no control over, though.
This cracks me up.

On Oct. 13, the White House announced that it was funding a five-year-research plan into one of the most controversial proposals for fighting climate change out there: geoengineering, or the technologies and innovations that can be used to artificially modify the Earth’s climate.
[www.thedailybeast.com...]

The more man tries to control Mother Nature the bigger mess he makes.

Earth can regulate its own temperature over millennia, new study finds
[www.eurekalert.org...]]

'Important' people from around the world flew in to the climate summit meeting on their Private planes. If they're not willing to walk the talk, I won't be buying a darn thing they say. I'm too old to follow the dumbing down of the woke crowd, and I'm still cgonisant enough to know BS when I hear it.

More tax is the answer, that and reparations to other countries that have ballooned their population from 40 million to over 235 million in 50 years. Nope that’s not the cause of their issues, not having our taxes is the issue.

With your tax dollars/pounds being hiked you can be assured that all of the climate change panic will go away, like magic.

They actually monetised the climate, they know it wont change in any drastic way and will claim complete success when we are still here and not underwater in 10 years. Then they’ll claim that they need more of your taxes to stop that happening. It’s an amazing grift really.

I’m not denying that we are having some impact on the earth, we surely are. But more astonished that weather is dramatised in such fashion. There are of course areas of the world where we are having an impact, absolutely. But they won’t fix that, they’ll take your money though.

Like the Simpsons bear patrols, you pay and no bears. “But there aren’t any bears” Yep so that works then.

is his the next climate
scare tactic?


give us money or the sun will
go out?

lol.

if the sun
refuse to shine,
i don't mind,
i don't mind.



it won't go out even after it goes nova.

a reply to: sarahvital

Fall mountains, just don't fall on me.

The sun won't burn out for thousands of years. Humans will be long gone by then.

I enjoy the FB channel suspiciousObserver He tracks sun anomalies and the earth magnetosphere. He has some interesting doom predictions

I enjoy the FB channel suspiciousObserver He tracks sun anomalies and the earth magnetosphere. He has some interesting doom predictions

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
The sun won't burn out for thousands of years. Humans will be long gone by then.

It should expand actually and swallow the 1st three rocks from the sun long before it shrinks.

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

Astronomers have labelled suns like our own G2 class stars and in a more friendly title Yellow Dwarf stars, our sun will live for approximately eight to ten billion years give or take and is about halfway through its life cycle according to some theory's.

Rather than getting cold the sun will get warmer, much, much warmer so that within just two billion years our earth will likely be uninhabitable to life as we know it, the sea's will evaporate into the atmosphere and over time the water will lose its hydrogen to space turning our earth into a true twin of what Venus is today.

But that is a very long time off so I would be more afraid of asteroids and comets than the sun going out.

And when it does finally go out it will be when it has consumed most of its hydrogen (there is plenty left) and starts to use up heavier and heavier elements as fuel swelling as it does so into a red giant whose outer atmosphere may even reach beyond the orbit of the earth so consuming the by then ancient planet but once again don't worry it is very long time off.

Finally, the core of the sun no longer able to fuse the heavier and heavier elements will collapse within thousands to just a few million years at most of it becoming a red giant, at this point it will explode violently throwing out it's outer atmosphere and whatever remains of the planets that were consumed by its expansion creating a small nebula leaving only a white dwarf star the core of our own sun which will eventually go cold but only after an extremely long time.

Time is vast, even trying to comprehend a million years is hard so trying to comprehend a billion even harder.

And you know there could possibly have been other earth like worlds long, long ago and scientists recently discovered the grave of one such solar system that may have been like our own once very, very long ago in which the remains of its ancient planets apparently may still be orbiting the dead star that was once their sun.
bgr.com...

But thinking about this WILL depress you, better to live in the light of the day, see the beauty and uniqueness of our world which we take for granted, the miracle of life itself and the greater miracle of a mind that can ask these questions.

Once long-ago scientists DID think the sun would burn out but that was before they had a better grasp on nuclear physics but still many ancient science fiction and even newer science fiction stories revolve around that ancient idea.

As the sun ages it's solar winds will become stronger, it's hydrogen will deplete to be replaced first by helium then it will turn that into heavier and heavier elements.

Every element in your body, indeed the world around you were made from Hydrogen in the core of long dead stars mostly giant stars, there the hydrogen atoms were squeezed together in the heart of the star in a process known as nuclear fusion, this released energy, light and heat but it also created heavier and heavier element's and some of the largest stars created the heaviest elements, some stars got so big that when they went nova and blew off there outer atmospheres the core had turned into a mass of pure neutron's so dense and heavy a tea spoon of it would weigh than the titanic did and some stars even bigger collapsed into things called brown holes which, somewhere out there some stars may even have become true black holes were time all but time stop's as time and gravity seem to have an inverse relationship and even light can't escape there immense gravitational presence.

The Sun how much longer, Do we really know ?

A couple of billion based on our knowledge of stars today.

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

"One day we will be without our Sun "

Relax , you won't be Around to See it in 1 to 2 Billion Years Bro ............

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
The sun won't burn out for thousands of years. Humans will be long gone by then.

About 5 billion years, actually.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
The sun won't burn out for thousands of years. Humans will be long gone by then.

About 5 billion years, actually.

That's when the sun becomes a White Dwarf and then....
Boom .
We will be doomed after the Sun starts the Red Giant stage, long before.

We are actually in a small anomolous warm period mid way through an ice age, so perhaps drastic changes in our environment is not to unexpected?

a reply to: nugget1