House Democrat Leads Charge to Bar Trump From Office, Citing 14th Amendment

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: putnam6

why does he frighten them so damn much?

It's so obvious that the people should decide who is going to be president and not congress or senate. If Trump is as finished as some seem to think, he won't get the nod from the GOP. And if he runs independent, he just solidifies a dem win. Let the people figure this out, and if he's the guy, suck it up buttercup.

Trump scares them because he's not part of "the system." They are the swamp Trump wants to drain.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: putnam6

Honestly, the best thing for the right would be the left being over zealous.

The worst thing for the right is possibly trump getting the ticket.

If you look at the candidates he endorsed and the individual referendums he didn’t perform too well. And I know a lot of people are saying it’s fraud, but anecdotally, I don’t know any of my circle pumped about trump. And I have liberal, moderate and right people in my circle. All of whom are pretty well versed since we all surround ourselves with like minded people even if we don’t agree.

I just don’t see it for him. He had a habit of purposely stirring the pot, all publicity is good publicity until it’s not. He stopped selling his platform and only focused on opponents.

I think it's fatigue from the media losing their minds over him for 6-7 years now. People are tired of the whole thing.

However, 230+ of the candidates he endorsed got elected compared to about 20 who didn't. I don't know how that could be construed as "not performing well". Sounds a lot like establishment media spin to me.

Also, I don't believe for a second that the media won't do the same screeching blitzkrieg on any other GOP candidate if they get the nomination instead. Rinse and repeat.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: putnam6

We all knew he was going to run again. That was a given. I don't plan to vote for him in the primary just like I didn't the last time there was a serious Republican primary unless his only competition is Jeb! level challengers. No one thinks Republican establishment "electable" actually gets elected, and I submit to you McCain, Romney and Jeb!'s own dismal primary showing as evidence.

The GOPe may be fighting hard to control the party, but they aren't it's main body, just an unattractive parasite latched on to its brain that refuses to see the reality of how its own base has changed. Carson, Cruz, and even Rubio had that figured out, but they didn't attract it like Trump did last time around. I imagine if DeSantis decides to run, and I think we won't know about it for some time if he does, that DeSantis can capture that element fairly effectively.

Thanks for your comments Ketsuko, I don't know and don't pretend to, but it is why I am asking questions. It's an interesting topic and perhaps all this is just normal proceedings but is it anything normal when it involves Trump?

FWIW this particular congressperson is entrenched, he isn't at risk of losing a future election so perhaps it is just a parting shot at OMB.

They’re going to arrest him. It’s the only way.

Then the real party starts.

a reply to: watchitburn

Thanls for clearing that up. User who try to push this "centralized" perspective give themselves away with Media Establishment spin.

200+ people under Trump performed well and are in office.

We won the popular vote.

The House is RED and Establishment goons power have diminished overall, which means they're have to bargain with American First people if they want things done.

All in all, Trump running in 2024 is something I support.

originally posted by: PurpleFox
They’re going to arrest him. It’s the only way.

Then the real party starts.

I think it's going to be really interesting looking back at this time -- 10 years (or so) from now.

One thing Trump has actually done -- is resurrect the book industry.

“Freedom of opinion is a farce unless factual information is guaranteed and the facts themselves are not in dispute. In other words, factual truth informs political thought just as rational truth informs philosophical speculation.”

“Even if we admit that every generation has the right to write its own history, we admit no more than that it has the right to rearrange the facts in accordance with its own perspective; we don't admit the right to touch the factual matter itself.”

—Hannah Arendt, Truth and Politics (Just found it interesting reading. She died in 1975 -- so not direct Trump related)

hac.bard.edu...

The exposures will hurt. That's why Democrats are trembling 😎

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: watchitburn

Thanls for clearing that up. User who try to push this "centralized" perspective give themselves away with Media Establishment spin.

200+ people under Trump performed well and are in office.

We won the popular vote.

The House is RED and Establishment goons power have diminished overall, which means they're have to bargain with American First people if they want things done.

All in all, Trump running in 2024 is something I support.

Let me clarify my position here, I support whichever Republican can actually win. There is a long way to go till November 2024. I completely get the being a bit weary of all the Trump noise, and not looking forward to 2 more years of the media barrage and leftist whining now that he is running.

FWIW recent odds have DeSantis as a slight favorite over Trump with them both more likely to be the next President than Biden

www.oddschecker.com...

So is there a pic (or at least good photoshop) of Trump charging up Capitol Hill wielding a Giant Pixy Stix or something as a weapon amongst the Jan6 crowd?

Because anything less is going to be hard to prove insurrection especially when the 3rd in line is on video commenting on wanting to assault the POTUS. Which is all that is needed to prove conspiracy of a coup attempt…because there were other officeholders present that heard her.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: PurpleFox
They’re going to arrest him. It’s the only way.

Then the real party starts.

I think it's going to be really interesting looking back at this time -- 10 years (or so) from now.

One thing Trump has actually done -- is resurrect the book industry.

“Freedom of opinion is a farce unless factual information is guaranteed and the facts themselves are not in dispute. In other words, factual truth informs political thought just as rational truth informs philosophical speculation.”

“Even if we admit that every generation has the right to write its own history, we admit no more than that it has the right to rearrange the facts in accordance with its own perspective; we don't admit the right to touch the factual matter itself.”

—Hannah Arendt, Truth and Politics (Just found it interesting reading. She died in 1975 -- so not direct Trump related)

hac.bard.edu...

Interesting quote there Annee, already checking out the link, I had never heard of her, but enjoy reading about those that influence others and why.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: PurpleFox
They’re going to arrest him. It’s the only way.

Then the real party starts.

I think it's going to be really interesting looking back at this time -- 10 years (or so) from now.

One thing Trump has actually done -- is resurrect the book industry.

“Freedom of opinion is a farce unless factual information is guaranteed and the facts themselves are not in dispute. In other words, factual truth informs political thought just as rational truth informs philosophical speculation.”

“Even if we admit that every generation has the right to write its own history, we admit no more than that it has the right to rearrange the facts in accordance with its own perspective; we don't admit the right to touch the factual matter itself.”

—Hannah Arendt, Truth and Politics (Just found it interesting reading. She died in 1975 -- so not direct Trump related)

hac.bard.edu...

Interesting quote there Annee, already checking out the link, I had never heard of her, but enjoy reading about those that influence others and why.

Politics is certainly not new. It's something I don't think we get the full effect of in real time.

Even though real time affects us directly.

These controversial times are certainly going to be talked about in depth for years to come.

Here's an opinion piece of what Hannah Arendt might have thought of Trump.

What philosopher Hannah Arendt would say about Donald Trump by Courtney Tenz -- 08/16/2017 August 16, 2017
Donald Trump is not a totalitarian, but his creation of a social movement is very dangerous - and the left is enabling it, explains Roger Berkowitz, a scholar on renowned Jewish-German philosopher Hannah Arendt. www.dw.com...

a reply to: putnam6

I will be perfectly honest. I have always been Trump ambivalent. I know that's not how people see me, but it's true. If Trump is the army I am going to war with, so be it. I will take him over Democrat crazy in a heart beat, but I also don't happen to be an emotional voter.

a reply to: putnam6

Actually Put, I agree. As Maher put it a week or so ago, Trump is a Limp Dick. In 16 the dems laughed and joked and thought they had a shoe-in, that prettily orchestrated Clintonianism they had been constructing for twenty years. I think they were so wrapped up in their heads with their plans for one party rule that they had no idea what was coming at them. It wasn't Trump, it was the ground-swell that for myriad reasons had had enough with the course of modern civilization.

And Trump knocked them silly. He was a trickster that this modern civilization had created. It offered him loop-holes to squeeze though in the face of failure after failure and bankers that happily lent him more and more money because in a way he was his own Bernie Madoff scheme. In a way.

And then the system gave him a job working for it because it thought of him as a joke. Eight years on the tube pretending. It fit him perfectly because he was always a pretender. Pretending to be what his father insisted for him to be. Learning to say whatever needed to be said to keep daddy believing he was a ''good little boy''.

The Republicans were not ready for him first and the stupid Democrats laughed and joked, simply because'' they are not us'', and then the trickster he is punched em in the face and they continue to be so stunned by that blow to the nose that their heads are still buzzing with little more than what he did to them. Are still buzzing.

That's why they don't want him to run, because he knocked them silly. Silly.. But now, I think his bag of tricks is empty. More and more who backed him realize this and his little tricks will no longer serve their purposes. Like those three big donors and now likely others as well. His entertainment value is finished cuz he now is nothing more than re-runs.

However, there are an awful lot of people who like re-runs. Look at all the channels that play re-runs. Re-runs form ten, twenty, thirty years ago. In a way, Hillery was a re-run of old Slick and Bushy was a re-run of his daddy and Jeb would have been a re-run of him, so he still is entertaining to a lot of people which leads me to another question.

We know he said he was running for POTUS again. But,,,,, did he say he was seeking the Republican nomination? From that speech do we know that he will run under the banner of Republican or will he have one last trick in his bag and veer off and run independent? He might you know.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
If this continues, how will he finance his campaign.

Gullible people and donations.

Order your Trump mystery box now, folks!

a reply to: putnam6
I nearly had a heart attack at reading "This language in our constitution clearly intended to bar insurrectionists from holding high office in the United States". I do hope you all realise that everyone who wrote the constitution and all those that signed it were insurrectionists.
One mans insurrectionist is another mans freedom fighter.

The media and the Dems have a love hate relationship
with President Trump. They need him, they want him
for click bait headlines, they have no platform without
him. But they do not want his winning, like he did before
with fantastic policies that made American strong and
very prosperous.

Can't have that!

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: putnam6

I think quite a few heart attacks will wrongly be attributed to myocarditis in the near future.

era of fake media

originally posted by: PurpleFox
They’re going to arrest him. It’s the only way.

Then the real party starts.

they don't

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Just remember that we have two more years of Biden and his ilk. They are already making noises about destroying people and companies who support Trump. Just look at the crap Hilary and her useful idiots are trying to pull on Musk and Twitter.

www.foxbusiness.com...