House Democrat Leads Charge to Bar Trump From Office, Citing 14th Amendment

Left isn't worried about Trump running in 2024
also, the left on Trump's running in 2024

What's going on here? has this got legs or is it just window dressing?

House Democrat Leads Charge to Bar Trump From Office, Citing 14th Amendment

www.commondreams.org...=1668630851

As former President Donald Trump prepared to announce his 2024 presidential campaign Tuesday, Rep. David Cicilline was circulating a letter to his fellow Democratic lawmakers calling on them to support legislation that would bar Trump from running, citing his involvement in the January 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"This language in our Constitution clearly intended to bar insurrectionists from holding high office in the United States."
Lawmakers have until Thursday at noon to sign on as original co-sponsors of the legislation, which states that the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution bars anyone from holding public office if they, "having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States... to support the Constitution of the United States... engaged in insurrection of rebellion against the same."

Trump "forfeited his right to ever hold federal office again for leading an insurrection against the United States," the Rhode Island Democrat wrote in the Dear Colleague letter. "This language in our Constitution clearly intended to bar insurrectionists from holding high office in the United States."

Cicilline noted that hearings held by the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol earlier this year demonstrated that Trump "engaged in insurrection on January 6 with the intention of overturning the lawful 2020 election results."

a reply to: putnam6

Oh, theyre scared.

CNN pushing Desantis is obvious.

a reply to: putnam6

They’ll try anything to keep him from being president again, they are that scared of him.
Impeachments, lawsuits, pandemic, stolen election, Jan 6th, 14th Amendment…you name it, they have tried it.
When the Demgenerates are that against something, I am all for it.

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: putnam6

When the Demgenerates are that against something, I am all for it.

Surely they're not that stupid? Maybe that's been their plan all along; to get Trump elected as the fall guy when they turn over a country as close to falling apart as they can get it.

a reply to: putnam6

Honestly, the best thing for the right would be the left being over zealous.

The worst thing for the right is possibly trump getting the ticket.

If you look at the candidates he endorsed and the individual referendums he didn’t perform too well. And I know a lot of people are saying it’s fraud, but anecdotally, I don’t know any of my circle pumped about trump. And I have liberal, moderate and right people in my circle. All of whom are pretty well versed since we all surround ourselves with like minded people even if we don’t agree.

I just don’t see it for him. He had a habit of purposely stirring the pot, all publicity is good publicity until it’s not. He stopped selling his platform and only focused on opponents.

No one has ever convicted Donald Trump as an insurrectionist. Instead of wasting tax payer dollars dude could’ve just went on twatter and just said # you Donald Trump and let Americans know how he really feels.

I know that people have a lot of fun pointing at the Democrats and their media allies who do not want another Trump in the White House again. Oh those liberals who hate him so much yada yada yada.

But how about these three guys.

www.rollingstone.com...

''Last week, Citadel’s billionaire founder Ken Griffin

revealed to Politico that he is dropping his support for the former president and instead endorsing Florida Governor Ron DeSantis if he chooses to run. “For a litany of reasons, I think it’s time to move on to the next generation,” Griffin explained. Asked about his potential support for DeSantis replied that “the bigger question is, is he going to run? That bridge has to be crossed.”

''Blackstone co-founder and CEO Stephen Schwarzman''
declared that he will not be backing Donald Trump in his renewed bid for the presidency. Schwarzman is the second high-level Trump donor to say he’s taking his money elsewhere in the last two weeks. ''

''longtime Trump ally and billionaire heir to the Estée Lauder fortune Ronald Lauder said he wouldn’t be supporting the former president’s latest White House run.''

How many more big money ''pals'' of Trump who have supported him in the past will be moving on from him I wonder. If this continues, how will he finance his campaign. I guess some here will have to get ready to pony up some cash if they want to see him in the White House again. Open them wallets folks.

And yeah, I know about Blackstone and Citadel and how they control so much, but was there any outcry from Trump fans or even from DJ Trump in the past when they helped him with their piles of cash?

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

That’s odd, Blackstone probably had one of the largest market cap gains in their history under Trump. And even in the fallout they’re way ahead. I mean, they got the seat as head of the table during the deployment of federal reserve asset buying. I can’t imagine why they’re salty. But at least they’re wise in the turn of the market. Just take a look in their real estate ventures.

Citadel on the other hand is an example of a hedge fund mad that they’re greed got the best of them while the market was basically trying to give them winning plays. And I’m not some GME fanboy, but citadel seems to be a masochist recently.

The two aiming their frustrations towards trump is confusing to say the least, for me.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
I know that people have a lot of fun pointing at the Democrats and their media allies who do not want another Trump in the White House again. Oh those liberals who hate him so much yada yada yada.

But how about these three guys.

www.rollingstone.com...

''Last week, Citadel’s billionaire founder Ken Griffin

revealed to Politico that he is dropping his support for the former president and instead endorsing Florida Governor Ron DeSantis if he chooses to run. “For a litany of reasons, I think it’s time to move on to the next generation,” Griffin explained. Asked about his potential support for DeSantis replied that “the bigger question is, is he going to run? That bridge has to be crossed.”

''Blackstone co-founder and CEO Stephen Schwarzman''
declared that he will not be backing Donald Trump in his renewed bid for the presidency. Schwarzman is the second high-level Trump donor to say he’s taking his money elsewhere in the last two weeks. ''

''longtime Trump ally and billionaire heir to the Estée Lauder fortune Ronald Lauder said he wouldn’t be supporting the former president’s latest White House run.''

How many more big money ''pals'' of Trump who have supported him in the past will be moving on from him I wonder. If this continues, how will he finance his campaign. I guess some here will have to get ready to pony up some cash if they want to see him in the White House again. Open them wallets folks.

And yeah, I know about Blackstone and Citadel and how they control so much, but was there any outcry from Trump fans or even from DJ Trump in the past when they helped him with their piles of cash?

griffin.

moved out of chicago to Florida.

brilliant to start it there anyway.

he's gonna add de santis to his pocket.

blackstone. sees gov money drying up.

lauder, who cares.

probably lost a fortune on FTX.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I don't know as it is ''frustration'' Stinker, maybe more realization that he isn't a good bet any more.

a reply to: putnam6
Trump hasn't been legally convicted, much less charged and tried of any such crime. He can't be barred from running until or before a conviction in a court of law.

a reply to: putnam6

I think quite a few heart attacks will wrongly be attributed to myocarditis in the near future.

So when did the offence occur? Except in their minds. I thought most in politics were lawyers I guess this one must be a horse doctor or something.

Wow, that 14th Amendment is uh-MAZ-ing. There is like, literally nothing it can't justify in the heads of the left. Every single tyrannical thing they want to do is allowed under the 14th. It almost makes me think we should treat it like people treated the 18th Amendment and pass an Amendment repealing it that simply says Here There Be Tyrants.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: putnam6

Honestly, the best thing for the right would be the left being over zealous.

The worst thing for the right is possibly trump getting the ticket.

If you look at the candidates he endorsed and the individual referendums he didn’t perform too well. And I know a lot of people are saying it’s fraud, but anecdotally, I don’t know any of my circle pumped about trump. And I have liberal, moderate and right people in my circle. All of whom are pretty well versed since we all surround ourselves with like minded people even if we don’t agree.

I just don’t see it for him. He had a habit of purposely stirring the pot, all publicity is good publicity until it’s not. He stopped selling his platform and only focused on opponents.

Thanks for the comment I agree it's a mistake for him to run too, but the point remains, however. If Trump is indeed making a mistake running why would the Democrats stop him? Seriously?

Let him run if his base is fractured or is weaker he isn't gonna win and at the same time a Trump campaign will still soak up votes and attention away from another Republican candidate. Virtually assuring whomever the Democrats want to run will win. If this is the obvious eventuality doesn't common sense suggest the Democrats would want this to happen?

The proverbial NEVER STOP YOUR ENEMY WHEN THEY ARE MAKING A MISTAKE, yet we have Democrats doing exactly that.

Makes no sense. Except it may garner the congresspersons floating this some positive attention from thier constituents and of course the DNC.

a reply to: putnam6

We all knew he was going to run again. That was a given. I don't plan to vote for him in the primary just like I didn't the last time there was a serious Republican primary unless his only competition is Jeb! level challengers. No one thinks Republican establishment "electable" actually gets elected, and I submit to you McCain, Romney and Jeb!'s own dismal primary showing as evidence.

The GOPe may be fighting hard to control the party, but they aren't it's main body, just an unattractive parasite latched on to its brain that refuses to see the reality of how its own base has changed. Carson, Cruz, and even Rubio had that figured out, but they didn't attract it like Trump did last time around. I imagine if DeSantis decides to run, and I think we won't know about it for some time if he does, that DeSantis can capture that element fairly effectively.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
I know that people have a lot of fun pointing at the Democrats and their media allies who do not want another Trump in the White House again. Oh those liberals who hate him so much yada yada yada.

But how about these three guys.

www.rollingstone.com...

''Last week, Citadel’s billionaire founder Ken Griffin

revealed to Politico that he is dropping his support for the former president and instead endorsing Florida Governor Ron DeSantis if he chooses to run. “For a litany of reasons, I think it’s time to move on to the next generation,” Griffin explained. Asked about his potential support for DeSantis replied that “the bigger question is, is he going to run? That bridge has to be crossed.”

''Blackstone co-founder and CEO Stephen Schwarzman''
declared that he will not be backing Donald Trump in his renewed bid for the presidency. Schwarzman is the second high-level Trump donor to say he’s taking his money elsewhere in the last two weeks. ''

''longtime Trump ally and billionaire heir to the Estée Lauder fortune Ronald Lauder said he wouldn’t be supporting the former president’s latest White House run.''

How many more big money ''pals'' of Trump who have supported him in the past will be moving on from him I wonder. If this continues, how will he finance his campaign. I guess some here will have to get ready to pony up some cash if they want to see him in the White House again. Open them wallets folks.

And yeah, I know about Blackstone and Citadel and how they control so much, but was there any outcry from Trump fans or even from DJ Trump in the past when they helped him with their piles of cash?

Thanks for the reply, but respectfully so what? that's my point if Trump is losing so much support publically and corporately conventional wisdom says the Democrats would want him to run. It's that simple.

NEVER STOP YOUR ENEMY WHEN THEY ARE MAKING A MISTAKE

One last failed campaign from Trump should end OMB once and for all. Again conventional wisdom.

As mentioned elsewhere if this is gonna be a close election, one would think a fractured Republican party would be perfect for all the Democrats.

not to bring out all the cliches in one post, but actions speak louder than words. These Democrats' actions don't support the Trump is toast mantra, did they not get the memo from the DNC?

Find it difficult to believe this isn't endorsed by ALL the Democratic leaders in Congress.

a reply to: putnam6

why does he frighten them so damn much?

It's so obvious that the people should decide who is going to be president and not congress or senate. If Trump is as finished as some seem to think, he won't get the nod from the GOP. And if he runs independent, he just solidifies a dem win. Let the people figure this out, and if he's the guy, suck it up buttercup.

a reply to: putnam6

I’m in full agreement. If the left intervenes with Trump it validates (even further) the disgruntlement of many voters that got Trump elected in the first place.

Even some Bernie bros flipped after the DNC forced Hillary through.

a reply to: putnam6

I’m in full agreement. If the left intervenes with Trump it validates (even further) the disgruntlement of many voters that got Trump elected in the first place.

Even some Bernie bros flipped after the DNC forced Hillary through.