CNN Banned From Ukraine After Showing Nazi Salute

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: JinMI

So we have gone from the azov battalion that surrendered to the entire Ukrainian military is nazi?

Think there needs to be some support to that statement.

No.

Im saying if people want to toss around the term nazi qs it applies to russia, then it equally applies to ukraine. With the caveat that we are funding ome side with nazis.

Nowhere have i claimed all of ukraines forces are nazis. Theres even Americans over there.

The only people I have heard it used against is the Ukrainians.

I have yet to see any proof beyond the odd photograph with zero context, an argument could be made for the azov group but thats it from what I can tell.

Now if people are calling the Russian govt warmongering atrocity committing arse weasels you have a good argument considering the way they have conducted their long range strikes against residential areas, and power stations.

a reply to: JinMI

You say the information is easily found. But then where is it? You're telling me that "there are, maybe were at this point, legitimate nazis in ukraines military and govt." But where's the real information proving that?

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: Cutepants

I guess because of the not so distant history?

What do you mean?

a reply to: Irishhaf

Stephan Banderas ideals and his political lineage is still part of of the ukranian govt.

Wagner group on the russian side.

Entirety of any side consisting of only nazis claim is silly.

a reply to: ancientlight

haha they banned CNN for showing the truth.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: JinMI

You say the information is easily found. But then where is it? You're telling me that "there are, maybe were at this point, legitimate nazis in ukraines military and govt." But where's the real information proving that?

Seriously?

Is azov unknown to you as a very base level starting point?

Ive no desire to rehash months, years from the MSM, of fact digging and reporting.

a reply to: ancientlight

There are some who support Ukraine on this site.

a reply to: Cutepants

originally posted by: Cutepants
What do you mean?

A chronological record of significant events such as those affecting a nation or institution, often including an explanation of their causes.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I did not intend to ask you to define what the word history means. I want you to explain what you accuse me of

a reply to: JinMI

Just post it if you have it. ATS will scrutinize you well enough.

a reply to: Cutepants
I accuse you of nothing, you can quote me on that if you can. No idea why you think that.

I posted a rhetorical question to you. Let me explain what that is:

Rhetorical questions are questions where the answer is already obvious, or obvious to most. They are used to invoke and encourage deeper thoughts. They also do not require a direct answer because of the former. Just the receiving person to use the computing power that their brain provides.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: JinMI

Just post it if you have it. ATS will scrutinize you well enough.

ATS has already exhausted this topic.

Thus why im asking you the easy question.

a reply to: TDDAgain

That makes sense

a reply to: JinMI

Well that's what I'm asking, what was your question?

a reply to: Cutepants
I know, I wrote it

To be clear: Read up on latest history. Nothing to thank me for.

a reply to: JinMI

Then I probably misunderstood something.

My beef against russia in this is they are the aggressors, and we are spending way to much money we dont have propping ukraine up so money can be laundered... i mean spent.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I know you wrote it, I just replied to your post. But what do you mean, read up on the latest history? I'm honestly curious about what you mean, because I like to be knowledgeable about history.

I believe there is a lot of fascism in Ukraine ala Spain in the 1940s but I do not think there are any nazis per se.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: JinMI

Then I probably misunderstood something.

My beef against russia in this is they are the aggressors, and we are spending way to much money we dont have propping ukraine up so money can be laundered... i mean spent.

Youre correct.

My beef is that not only did biden, nulan, mccain, and graham cultivate the environment, they are still profitting from it. And they knew there were/are nazis that hold power in ukraine.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: JinMI

Well that's what I'm asking, what was your question?

Are you aware of the azov battalion?