Unbelievable Lottery Anomaly (not Powerball this time)

Same New York lottery numbers drawn twice in one day

The same five numbers were drawn twice in a single day for the New York Lottery’s Take 5 five games Thursday — leading to a jaw-dropping display of astronomical odds, lottery reps and experts said Friday.

This happened on 10/27/2022. Pretty crazy, right? But if you know anything about statistics, you know it is possible (though highly unlikely).

Here is the unbelievable part:

In total, 52 people took home the first prize of $715 each during the evening drawing Thursday.

There were FIFTY-TWO first-prize winners. (The amount won was low, because they divide the top prize among all the first-place winners.)

Link to upload image is not working, so here is a link to that day's winner breakdown: 10/27/2022 NY Lottery Take 5 Winners

Looking back at past 60 drawings, there has never been more than THREE first-prize winners. Here is the breakdown:

Zero first-prize winners: 31 times
One first-prize winners: 16 times
Two first-prize winners: 8 times
Three first-prize winners: 4 times
Fifty-two first-prize winners: 1 time

Source: New York Lottery (use the drop-down menu to select select Take 5)

I have sent an email to NY Lottery officials asking for a breakdown of the number of first-prize winners each drawing for the past year (it is too time consuming for me to check each day individually). I also asked their opinion of how this could happen, and if it is being investigated. I will update this post if they answer my questions.

Edited to add: When you look at the breakdown on the NY Lottery page of where the winning tickets were sold, there are two retail locations that each sold three winning tickets.

a reply to: craig732

I'm not a statistician, but this seems impossible, or as close to impossible as it gets.

Which would lead me to think fraud of some sort.

Open our eyes to see most if not all our institutions are corrupted. This is yet another example. How much graft and false assertions need people see before getting the torches and pitchforks?
Personally I'm not surprised.

a reply to: craig732

Nothing is impossible statistically, just highly improbable; however, that requires things to be equal. In the real world, something like this is more likely to be a fluke illustration of the corruption involved than a true statistical anomaly...

Jaden

a reply to: craig732

I would be pissed cause my cousin Vinnie in Brooklyn didn't call me and let me in on this scam...

So statistically impossible is highly improbable?

a reply to: Masterjaden

Well first the numbers would need to be some series that many people would typically pick, so 18 21 30 35 36 don't seem to be anything with a pattern... Any geniuses here that can see patterns in series of numbers?

The odds were 1 in 331 billion, Powerball is 1 in 292 million...

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Well first the numbers would need to be some series that many people would typically pick, so 18 21 30 35 36 don't seem to be anything with a pattern... Any geniuses here that can see patterns in series of numbers?

The odds were 1 in 331 billion, Powerball is 1 in 292 million...

You do not even have to wrap your head around this one..

It was a scam!

So statistically improbable that it’s actually more likely to be fraud statistically. 🤷‍♂️

a reply to: craig732

a reply to: craig732

Pay-offs, buy-outs, scams, informants, witness-protection-programs, spooks, etc ...

- Oh Nothin ! That's unpossible !!

Oh yeah right...
Forgot that they all work for free ...

I'm thinking the only way this could happen is if 52 people intentionally picked the same numbers they got them from the same source.

I wonder if one of those fortune cookies with the lotto picks on the pack of the fortune finally hit.

Or maybe a horoscope.

a reply to: craig732

But if you know anything about statistics, you know it is possible (though highly unlikely).

Actually, no. Its the exact opposite.

Statistically speaking, every number drawn at any given time has exactly the same odds as any other number. The odds of drawing 1-2-3-4-5 are precisely the same odds as any other seemingly random numbers. After the fact we may recognize a pattern, but that doesn't change the odds of the drawing itself.

In most lotteries there are sets of numbers that have been drawn more than once. There are also sets of numbers that have never been drawn. The odds are always independent of previous results. Each is an event of its own with exactly the same odds as any other with the same number balls.

The only thing odd about it is duplicate drawings on the same day. It seems like the odds should be astronomical but as I said earlier, the odds of any number at any given time are exactly the same as any other number.

originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: craig732

I'm not a statistician, but this seems impossible, or as close to impossible as it gets.

Which would lead me to think fraud of some sort.

The 'lottery' is just another government way to steal/'obtain' more money from the people. In other words, legalized theft.

I worked at a circle k in flordia where 666 came in on the pick three twice in one month.

a reply to: Zarniwoop

I thought of that. If that was the case... that the numbers came from a legit source like a fortune cookie or lottery number prediction service... and a bunch of people played those numbers... then why didn't a bunch of people hit on the first drawing of those numbers too?

It's ATS. so obviously China was doing a test run for the November 8 festivities in the US.

a reply to: craig732

Sounds like they forgot to switch the sets of loaded balls.

a reply to: craig732

2015 - Ex-lottery worker in Iowa convicted of rigging system to win $14 million

DES MOINES, Iowa — A former lottery security official was found guilty Monday of rigging a computerized Hot Lotto game so he could win a $14 million jackpot then trying to get acquaintances to cash the prize for him without revealing his identity.

Prosecutors said Eddie Tipton inserted a stealth program into the computer that randomly picked the numbers then deleted it so it could not be detected. Although Tipton, 52, never got his hands on the winning total, he was charged with two counts of fraud.

Jurors found him guilty Monday after just five hours of deliberation. Tipton declined to comment after the verdict.

Tipton, of Norwalk, had been working for the Des Moines-based Multi-State Lottery Association since 2003 and was promoted to information security director in 2013. The nonprofit association is operated by 37 mostly state-run lotteries to oversee picking numbers for various games and other lottery game administrative functions.

As an employee, Tipton was prohibited from playing the lottery in Iowa. He was fired after his January arrest.

click link for article...


Granted its from 2015 but it sounds like a test run for the elections to me... or the 2022 NY lotto.

how many was the same person?

i play the same numbers for 5 draws at a time.

the lotto here draws once a day.

same number odds are crazy tho.

It's just a tax on the stoopid and I never fell for it! I'd rather keep my two bucks and let it devalue to nothing right before my eyes!

The mandatory death sentence lottery, now that's a real man's lottery system! 🤓