Trump on twitter takeover!!!

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Boadicea
I sure miss the days when former presidents melted into the woodwork and refrained from commenting on political issues...And I wish the MSM would ignore him and not give him any air time... and I really wish Trump would just STHU!!! He had his chance. He gave it his best shot. It is what it is, unless he declares for another presidential run, he is no longer relevant.

The rest of us need to get on with the people's business and Trump is just getting in the way.

Oh, the media lust to have Trump stories. They want to make any elections about Trump to rally their base because most of the MSM is nothing more than DNC political operatives and activists now.

Yes that's true. He brings joy and happiness to the news outlets. However he can bring discomfort and even horror to the democrats who are about to make a historical defeat in the mid-terms and then likely to see Trump become the President of the United States for once more.

Not to forget though... Trump is banned from Twitter.

And yes the MSM propagate what he said in the OP: Radical left wing nonsense and lunacy.
And you can see this clearly regardless of who you vote. I am sure many democrats are aware of this bizarre state of matters.

a reply to: TzarChasm

It will always be about Trump because he's now elevated to a near demigod status, he's the voice everyone hears when anything remotely conservative is mentioned and that's a problem. Not because he's unprofessional or unscrupulous but because traditional American values, the definitive pillars of democracy as outlined in the Constitution, precede and transcend his political doctrine so there needs to be a more inclusive emblem of liberty and sovereignty beyond the idolatry that follows his every word.

Yes, you're right. And I think this is a very important aspect of this, in both a micro and macro sense. No one person should be elevated to such a status -- not for the nation, not for the people, not for the political parties, not ever at all! And for exactly the reasons you stated, because the "definitive pillars" that define our Constitution transcends individuals, their parties, their politics, their everything.

No one person is going to save our Republic. Not Trump or anyone else. It's going to have to be a major team effort of the people and by the people and for the people, standing and fighting for our values and principles NOT persons and parties.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

Well the funny part is he is more relevant then the sitting President...

No, he's really not. Trump cannot make policy... or laws... or even properly and effectively address the fraud in the 2020 election -- not before, not during, and not after.

Trump can make noise. That's about it.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

You see Trump is still a political figure and active one although he remains controversial.

Yes, he's controversial, he's also divisive, defensive, and he's serving his own agenda... whatever that is.

He could be nominated again and if he is to go head to head with Biden then it's almost certain he will be the next President of the United States.

I'm not so sure about that. I think many of Trump's supporters would prefer to see someone else step up and run, like De Santis. Trump's chances of success depend on who else runs.

He is also banned from Twitter. You can see that Elon Musk knows what i have said above and he would like to have a very good relationship with the next President. He said he will lift the ban.

I believe Musk has already lifted the ban. And, yeah, I just bet Musk wants a very very good relationship with Trump! But that's for Musk's benefit. Not our benefit.

The situation with the social media is just unacceptable. They are promoting the vaccine ideology, the climate change ideology, and the transgender ideology. Clearly they are purging anyone who doesn't subscribe to these ludicrous and absurd ideologies which are regressive and antiscientific. They try to control the flow of information and dictate to others what is acceptable abe what is not.

Of course it's unacceptable! And Trump wasn't able to fix that either.

We'll see if Musk creates a better Twitter...

a reply to: nugget1

I've been thinking he's the Anti-Christ.

Everyone will love him, to paraphrase.

Neurolink and Starlink to complete the matrix.

He's definitely a likable guy though...

a reply to: TzarChasm

And then there's the part where, assuming he wins the 2024 election, he has until 2028 to "save America" and do it in a fashion that lasts more than 6 months the way things played out in 2020/21. He can't single handedly reinvent democracy, or congress, or legislature, or the propaganda industry, or assert enduring dominance in the arena of international trade relations and the so called economic reset predicted by the WEF. So what kind of permanency can we expect from any miracle he may or may not muster in the span of this decade during the peak of his career?

Yes. And I don't think he's up to it. He sure wasn't the first time, and I don't think he's learned any better, or he would have found a way to effectively challenge the election. He's had two damn years to do so!!!

I have always thought that Trump understands business, Trump understands wheeling and dealing, Trump understands greasing hands... But Trump does not understand the Constitution, the legal system, or our founding principles -- the "definitive pillars" of our Republic.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Asmodeus3

You see Trump is still a political figure and active one although he remains controversial.

Yes, he's controversial, he's also divisive, defensive, and he's serving his own agenda... whatever that is.

He could be nominated again and if he is to go head to head with Biden then it's almost certain he will be the next President of the United States.

I'm not so sure about that. I think many of Trump's supporters would prefer to see someone else step up and run, like De Santis. Trump's chances of success depend on who else runs.

He is also banned from Twitter. You can see that Elon Musk knows what i have said above and he would like to have a very good relationship with the next President. He said he will lift the ban.

I believe Musk has already lifted the ban. And, yeah, I just bet Musk wants a very very good relationship with Trump! But that's for Musk's benefit. Not our benefit.

The situation with the social media is just unacceptable. They are promoting the vaccine ideology, the climate change ideology, and the transgender ideology. Clearly they are purging anyone who doesn't subscribe to these ludicrous and absurd ideologies which are regressive and antiscientific. They try to control the flow of information and dictate to others what is acceptable abe what is not.

Of course it's unacceptable! And Trump wasn't able to fix that either.

We'll see if Musk creates a better Twitter...

Ron Desantis is definitely a viable option for the republicans and clearly something many will want to see. However my point is that whoever is nominated will win against Biden.

www.cnn.com...

The CNN has reported a few months ago that 75% of democrats want someone else and not Biden in 2024 ejections.

At least what everyone wants is Twitter to become normalised again away from the woke ideologies.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

I don't disagree with you, but I'm not as confident about the 2024 election. A lot can and will happen between now and then. I'd say the chances of Biden being on the 2024 ballot are slim to none. I'd say the chances of Biden still being in office in 2024 are only slightly better.

It may be Biden and Trump... It may be Biden and DeSantis... it may be Trump or DeSantis against Heaven only knows who.

Anything can happen.

originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: nugget1

At this point how can he be any worse than the former rich people that owned it???? Most of the complaints about Musk buying Twitter have come from sycophants of the deplatform movement. Also it is not like Musk bought it with all his own money! His investors also are going to want their investment to pay off.

I'm on the fence about Musk. It remains to be seen whether he's controlled opositin or not. It usually takes 5-10 years after an event of this magnitude for all the ramafications to come to light.

Maybe he's just bi-polar- who knows? I just know you don't get to the top of the 1% heap by playing fair.

Elon Musk hates government subsidies. His companies love them.
A Grid analysis of Musk’s companies shows more than $7 billion in government contracts alone.
[www.grid.news...

There's plenty of Elon history to at least warrent eyes wide open.

These opportunities to leverage government programs, some designed for people much further down the income ladder, have driven Musk throughout his career: The megabillionaire built his companies on the backs of enormous government subsidies, tax breaks, and exclusive contracts.

[newrepublic.com...]

At least Twitter didn't get taken over by the Gates clan; that would have been too obvious.

originally posted by: Boadicea

No, he's really not. Trump cannot make policy... or laws... or even properly and effectively address the fraud in the 2020 election -- not before, not during, and not after.

Trump can make noise. That's about it.

Well Biden can't do any of that either, he can't even coherently say 3 words...

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well Biden can't do any of that either, he can't even coherently say 3 words...

True enough... but far worse is that Biden is in a position where others can do so in his name and authority. And they do.

a reply to: Boadicea

Must be elf season...?

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: nugget1

Musk is very vocal about his beliefs. They align more with out-of-touch uber-rich ultra-progressive elites than any common man. If you think he has the best interest of the cpommon man at heart you haven't been paying attention.

Everyone has their beliefs, this country was founded on the principal of freedom to pursue happiness. I think the thing most people here and all over the world like about the Musk takeover if you haven't noticed is the fact that he wants a more free speech based Twitter instead of a one group gets to express their beliefs yet many other beliefs or even facts are banned and or censored.

Yeah, that's what he says. Lets hope he doesn't use his new platform to try and influence/further his vision for the world; not all are in the best interests of humanity.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

If he does what he says, do you have a problem with freedom of speech as Musk sees it? If so what do you disagree with his new policies?

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: nugget1

Musk is very vocal about his beliefs. They align more with out-of-touch uber-rich ultra-progressive elites than any common man. If you think he has the best interest of the cpommon man at heart you haven't been paying attention.

Everyone has their beliefs, this country was founded on the principal of freedom to pursue happiness. I think the thing most people here and all over the world like about the Musk takeover if you haven't noticed is the fact that he wants a more free speech based Twitter instead of a one group gets to express their beliefs yet many other beliefs or even facts are banned and or censored.

Yeah, that's what he says. Lets hope he doesn't use his new platform to try and influence/further his vision for the world; not all are in the best interests of humanity.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

If he does what he says, do you have a problem with freedom of speech as Musk sees it? If so what do you disagree with his new policies?

I don't think any reasonable person will have any issue if the platform is normalised. Nothing exceptional but just to abandon the ludicrous and radical left wing rhetoric and the ideologies supported and promoted not only in this platform but everywhere else. Either this is the climate change ideology, the transgender ideology, the vaccine ideology, or the recent discussions about property and whether humans should be able to possess goods and property in the future. Hint: weird form of communism

a reply to: iamthevirus

Elf season? Sounds hectic... but I really have no idea what that means!

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Xtrozero

Well, Trump is going to run again so he is still relevant, and that makes his crappy tweets still relevant too.

When Trump actually declares and stops playing silly games, taunting/titillating his audiences, then he will be relevant.

Right now he's just a former prez at best, and a loser former prez who lost his second term at worst.

And then there's the part where, assuming he wins the 2024 election, he has until 2028 to "save America" and do it in a fashion that lasts more than 6 months the way things played out in 2020/21. He can't single handedly reinvent democracy, or congress, or legislature, or the propaganda industry, or assert enduring dominance in the arena of international trade relations and the so called economic reset predicted by the WEF. So what kind of permanency can we expect from any miracle he may or may not muster in the span of this decade during the peak of his career?

Oh we witnessed what he can muster in a short period... and it was beautiful, we were on the right track again so fast it was mind-boggling really.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: iamthevirus

Elf season? Sounds hectic... but I really have no idea what that means!

Elves everywhere! they must be those who would sacrifice their freedom for a little bit of security?

The security not to have their feelz hurt...

a reply to: Butterfinger

Odd how seemingly overnight twitter has become racist and a platform for hate groups lol, damn the MSM works fast!

Now we have people actually crying and calling for limits on their speech, it's like they can't win any other way unless everyone is brought down to their level, their level is the playing field.

Can't help but wonder if it's not really the people begging for their chains to be put back on or if it is just the MSM media saying so... (social engineering 101)

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: Butterfinger

Odd how seemingly overnight twitter has become racist and a platform for hate groups lol, damn the MSM works fast!

Now we have people actually crying and calling for limits on their speech, it's like they can't win any other way unless everyone is brought down to their level, their level is the playing field.

Can't help but wonder if it's not really the people begging for their chains to be put back on or if it is just the MSM media saying so... (social engineering 101)

Is this what had been claimed?!?!

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: nugget1

Musk is very vocal about his beliefs. They align more with out-of-touch uber-rich ultra-progressive elites than any common man. If you think he has the best interest of the cpommon man at heart you haven't been paying attention.

Everyone has their beliefs, this country was founded on the principal of freedom to pursue happiness. I think the thing most people here and all over the world like about the Musk takeover if you haven't noticed is the fact that he wants a more free speech based Twitter instead of a one group gets to express their beliefs yet many other beliefs or even facts are banned and or censored.

Yeah, that's what he says. Lets hope he doesn't use his new platform to try and influence/further his vision for the world; not all are in the best interests of humanity.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

If he does what he says, do you have a problem with freedom of speech as Musk sees it? If so what do you disagree with his new policies?

Oh, absolutely not! But when something seems too good to be true, it probably isn't.

I look at everything coming from those above us as being false, or havine a nefarios agenda....fewer surprises that way, and more time to prepare.

Could Musk suddenly have become altruistic? Sure! But how often do leopards change their spots? He has a long history of espousing socialstic ideals, while saying things like AI will be the demise of civilization. Makes me wonder if he just wants to ride the hisest wave while he's here and exploit those beneath him for the lavish lifestyle he's creating for himself.

His Twitter takeover will be a great thing- until it's not. To ignore the potential Twitter has to lead the masses, or be used against them isn't an option for me. I predict things will slowly caalm down, Twitter will fade from the front page and several years down the road we'll all be surprised to learn they've been instrumental in gathering data for the 3 letter agencies and are the main source of directing agenda-driven policies.

(It's not my fault I've lived long enough to become 100% jaded on all things. )