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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
I do think there is an intelligence factor here when determining not to get them. And that's what upsets people so much when they thought they were smarter than they really are.
originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: Asmodeus3
given the battle those who lost loved ones have which I follow closely through the coroner courts it'll be a while before I do.. after a year of trying to understand what happened, it looks like the placement of vaccine led to a vaccines escape which my immune system attacked creating a pf4 clot. Swansea uni did a study into it.. still unsure how common it is or not...
it really sucked having to relearn everything again.
originally posted by: nonspecific
Can you explain what happened in a way I might understand it?
When you say Swansea university did research I assume you mean on the issue in general and not on you in person?
originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: Asmodeus3
given the battle those who lost loved ones have which I follow closely through the coroner courts it'll be a while before I do.. after a year of trying to understand what happened, it looks like the placement of vaccine led to a vaccines escape which my immune system attacked creating a pf4 clot. Swansea uni did a study into it.. still unsure how common it is or not...
it really sucked having to relearn everything again.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
I do think there is an intelligence factor here when determining not to get them. And that's what upsets people so much when they thought they were smarter than they really are.
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originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: Boadicea
good points, as i see it the data (displaced mortality ect) its has highlighted the initial response (expected science) of a lockdown for 3 weeks was right the rest was a lurch into puritanical tyranny they can't let go and is now used as one of many sticks to beat the all dissenters with. the problem with this is it'll push ever more people into taking extreme positions.. especially as more people lose loved ones or homes and jobs, at this point no good can come of where we are still heading..
I agree, and it's the censorship of information -- the tyranny -- which creates this debacle. Can't tell anyone that Ivermectin works... can't tell anyone that ventilators kill... can't tell anyone that simple supplements like Vitamins C and D can help prevent complications and the most severe symptoms... can't tell anyone about the clear conflicts of interests of doctors like Fauci and the medical treatments being pushed...
Not everyone, but most people don't take extreme positions unless they're only fed extreme information.
William Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura won the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for its discovery and applications.[15] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines,[16] and is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as an antiparasitic agent.[17] In 2018, it was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 100,000 prescriptions.[18] It is available as a generic medicine.[19][20]
You have to stand up just as the good General said.
If you think Ivermectin works then you do so by supported evidence. If you have even basic knowledge and some evidence you can support a range of matters.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Asmodeus3
You have to stand up just as the good General said.
Of course -- You're preaching to the choir!
If you think Ivermectin works then you do so by supported evidence. If you have even basic knowledge and some evidence you can support a range of matters.
And it's impossible to "have even basic knowledge" when that information is withheld and censored. That's all I was saying.
If you do search you will find plenty eventhough much could be censored.
originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: nonspecific
simply put it was an auto immune response, what Swansea discovered is the vaccine escape part i.e. that if the vaccine got into the blood stream the autoimmune system could attack the vaccine and that could create a pf4 clot which is a jelly like clot, the median age of for this was 46 and with no underlying health conditions it creates a totally different recovery path to normal strokes, and I was asked to talk to give talks to healthcare professionals to understand the difference and that's why I'm writing a book on my recovery journey..
Its lucky I live close to gods waiting room and they have 6 hyper acute stroke wards and some of the best clinicians in the country given my fitness level had 3 weeks of investigations into why I had a stroke.. which was good as it took time to learn not to fall off the loo
originally posted by: Pointofview
Wow, this almost brought tears to my eyes as one of the 1% unvaccinated in my country.
Luckily, I had a seat at the Christmas table, but got into a little dispute when my mother wanted to sit on the opposite end of the table from me.
I watched the hysteria unfold with bottomless disbelief, and sometimes I felt really alienated and as if the whole ordeal was a dream, for so many reasons.
If you told me a year before that I would be planning an escape just in case the authorities decided to force vaccinate people, since it was called for in the media, in one of the safest and countries in the world, where the government is trusted by mostly everyone, I'd laugh and call you a liar.
These past years have been a real eye opener for me.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3
So how did you avoid the "pressure"
What did you do to avoid it?
If you are knowledgeable and powerful you are unlikely to get pressured.
However had I seen pressure coming on my way then I would have moved away at THE SPEED OF SCIENCE!!!
originally posted by: igloo
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3
So how did you avoid the "pressure"
What did you do to avoid it?
If you are knowledgeable and powerful you are unlikely to get pressured.
However had I seen pressure coming on my way then I would have moved away at THE SPEED OF SCIENCE!!!
True for me too, there wasn't a moment I feared the virus and never would have conceded to the shots because of the many years of preparation for this. Awareness goes a long way, but I was attacked on so many levels for my decisions. More the fallout of propaganda, feeling ripped from society. I grumbled about this but my friend reminded me I never had much love for society anyway but the issue is more being shunned/alienated against one's will.
I think what shocked me most was the censorship and how it cut people off from their communities and normal channels of discussion.
It now feels like it was a test but it isn't over yet.
originally posted by: McGinty
When someone gushes so passionately I can’t help wondering when the other shoe will drop. Maybe I have trust issues, but I guess that’s why I’m a member of ATS. He speaks of critical thinking, but flattery is often a sure way to interfere with someone’s critical thinking, you know, like a sh1t sandwich!
The vaccine was a game of weighing the odds between what’s more likely to frak you up least if it goes wrong, covid or the jab. That’s why I steered clear of the mRNA version. So I spose that to some extent I should get a nice warm fuzzy feeling of confirmation reading that speech, since he seems to be inferring that mRNA is riskier than covid. But, nah, I’m still exhibiting trust issues.