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Is it usual for a scientific journal to have legal specialists like these guys on the editorial team?
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: nonspecific
a reply to: ScepticScot
Look guys, this is what i do. I wrote a detailed post explaining the procedure and how things work above. You can choose to believe it or not; not my problem.
At this point, I am going to consider this side debate on what constitutes a peer review as similar to a debate where someone who has no idea how electricity works starts telling me how to build a guitar amp. I usually just walk away shaking my head sadly before my allergy kicks in and I start sneezing.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: nonspecific
a reply to: ScepticScot
Look guys, this is what i do. I wrote a detailed post explaining the procedure and how things work above. You can choose to believe it or not; not my problem.
At this point, I am going to consider this side debate on what constitutes a peer review as similar to a debate where someone who has no idea how electricity works starts telling me how to build a guitar amp. I usually just walk away shaking my head sadly before my allergy kicks in and I start sneezing.
TheRedneck
I can say the same in relation to the way peer review is understood or let's say misunderstood in this case. It is true from the arguments presented that the members above don't understand what peer review is. But that's fine as you don't expect everyone to understand what it is and how it works. However it should be noted and discussed.
The motivation behind these arguments is denialism of facts and evidence when it comes to vaccines and vaccine safety which is fuelled by a very strange from of vaccine ideology which includes a lot vaccine apologetics.
There are constant and desperate attempts to downplay the injuries caused by the mRNA vaccines. On the way though there are even more desperate attempts to cast doubt on the quality of the researchers who publish papers that don't support the narrative and even attacks against the editors or the journals themselves.
A classical example is what happened a few days ago where a very famous cardiologist Dr Akeem Malhotra has suggested that the vaccination program should pause at a global level because there are serious questions regarding vaccine safety. It looks from the conclusions that there is a greater risk of serious adverse reactions from the vaccine rather than hospitalised due to Covid.
Here is the paper which had been peer reviewed in the journal of insulin resistance
insulinresistance.org...
The reaction was expectable to be honest. Dr Malhotra was accused of bias, was branded a quack, a conspiracy theorist, and a crackpot, as well as being irresponsible and not a good scientist. Later on the argument expanded to whether Dr Malhotra had a PhD?! and finally the argument was made that the journal is obscure and of very low quality (whether this means).
Similar arguments when the Department of Health in Florida through Dr Ladapo advised 18-39 year old males not to take the mRNA vaccines. There is an obvious reason for this.
The irony is that these comments and accusations as well as attacks come from individuals who have usually no qualifications of any sort, no experience and no knowledge of science and medicine and/or how science and the peer-reviewed works but they are mainly fuelled by personal beliefs and political ideology. If it comes from the UK, as I believe to be the case, you are looking on left wing activism/ideology which is blended with vaccine apology and denialism of facts in the name of the 'greater good' which is formed in the minds of those who believe in these ideologies.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: nonspecific
a reply to: ScepticScot
Look guys, this is what i do. I wrote a detailed post explaining the procedure and how things work above. You can choose to believe it or not; not my problem.
At this point, I am going to consider this side debate on what constitutes a peer review as similar to a debate where someone who has no idea how electricity works starts telling me how to build a guitar amp. I usually just walk away shaking my head sadly before my allergy kicks in and I start sneezing.
TheRedneck
I can say the same in relation to the way peer review is understood or let's say misunderstood in this case. It is true from the arguments presented that the members above don't understand what peer review is. But that's fine as you don't expect everyone to understand what it is and how it works. However it should be noted and discussed.
The motivation behind these arguments is denialism of facts and evidence when it comes to vaccines and vaccine safety which is fuelled by a very strange from of vaccine ideology which includes a lot vaccine apologetics.
There are constant and desperate attempts to downplay the injuries caused by the mRNA vaccines. On the way though there are even more desperate attempts to cast doubt on the quality of the researchers who publish papers that don't support the narrative and even attacks against the editors or the journals themselves.
A classical example is what happened a few days ago where a very famous cardiologist Dr Akeem Malhotra has suggested that the vaccination program should pause at a global level because there are serious questions regarding vaccine safety. It looks from the conclusions that there is a greater risk of serious adverse reactions from the vaccine rather than hospitalised due to Covid.
Here is the paper which had been peer reviewed in the journal of insulin resistance
insulinresistance.org...
The reaction was expectable to be honest. Dr Malhotra was accused of bias, was branded a quack, a conspiracy theorist, and a crackpot, as well as being irresponsible and not a good scientist. Later on the argument expanded to whether Dr Malhotra had a PhD?! and finally the argument was made that the journal is obscure and of very low quality (whether this means).
Similar arguments when the Department of Health in Florida through Dr Ladapo advised 18-39 year old males not to take the mRNA vaccines. There is an obvious reason for this.
The irony is that these comments and accusations as well as attacks come from individuals who have usually no qualifications of any sort, no experience and no knowledge of science and medicine and/or how science and the peer-reviewed works but they are mainly fuelled by personal beliefs and political ideology. If it comes from the UK, as I believe to be the case, you are looking on left wing activism/ideology which is blended with vaccine apology and denialism of facts in the name of the 'greater good' which is formed in the minds of those who believe in these ideologies.
More spectacular dishonesty.
Just as a single example the the PHD only came up as you seemed to believe it was a requirement to question the study (in fact the opposite of rednecks argument).
You also seemed to think he must have one based on being a doctor not understanding the difference between a PhD and a medical doctor.
Just as a single example the the PHD only came up as you seemed to believe it was a requirement to question the study (in fact the opposite of rednecks argument).
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
A classical example is what happened a few days ago when a very famous cardiologist Dr Akeem Malhotra has suggested that the vaccination program should pause at a global level because there are serious questions and concerns regarding vaccine safety. It looks from the conclusions there is a greater risk of serious adverse reactions from the vaccine rather than hospitalised due to Covid.
...
The reaction was expectable to be honest. Dr Malhotra was accused of bias, was branded a quack, a conspiracy theorist, and a crackpot, as well as being irresponsible and not a good scientist. Later on the argument expanded to whether Dr Malhotra had a PhD?! and finally the argument was made that the journal is obscure and of very low quality (whatever this means).
Not sure where you got that from but it's false/out of date info.
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: TheRedneck
Not sure where you got that from but it's false/out of date info.
There's 1000s of peer reviewed journals. Impact factors are used as measures of credibility of scientific journals, Beall's list and similar - there's a list of credibile ones here:
Top 100 ranking journals
Fake journals, like this one, are a major problem in research and academia. Anyone working on or writing papers in the last 20 years will have been trained in the warning signs to look out for. Though this one is a lot more obvious than most.
This 'journal' is politics and conspiracy theory masquereding as scientific papers - it's authors do their own peer reviews, has no impact factor, has never been referenced, is a known predatory publisher and is run by known hoaxer, John Oller (has a long line of made up anti-vax claims from MMR jabs cause Autism to Tetanus jabs are to make everyone sterile as part of NWO depopulation agenda.
There's plenty of open access non-predatory publishers for paper authors to submit their work to - submiting a scientific paper to a 'science journal' that cites the Bible as references, claims covid vaccines are mind conrtol by the devil etc... shows the original authors have failed to conduct basic five minutes background reading/research before paying the $300 submission fee which should raise red flags in anyone.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Asmodeus3
No you asked if I had one and were incredulous when I asked if the author had one, you believed he had one based on him being a cardiologist.
Are you actually denying that it was you who brought up PHDs in that threat?
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: TheRedneck
Presuming that your biology or an adjacent field you should be able to tell me what the was done to the samples in the slides that claim to show damaged cells to make them look like that.
I will give you a hint, the membrane are ruptured.
It's real easy if you have a related background.
Or am I expecting too much from the world of scientific journalism in the year 2022?