Closer to nuclear conflict ? - Kyiv city council potassium iodide pills and Nuke sub deployment

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: JinMI

I didn't see Ukrainian men leaving Ukraine in droves like the Russian men are doing.

You dont see anything but what your are designed to see.

Fog of war.

Should i post the vids and photos of Ukrainian western borders back in Feb and March?

a reply to: JinMI

No post videos of Ukrainian soliders and other men from other countries taking back what Russian forces thought they had taken already.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: JinMI

No post videos of Ukrainian soliders and other men from other countries taking back what Russian forces thought they had taken already.

Why would I do that?


Are you gearing up and heading over to partake in the combat?

a reply to: glen200376


Who exactly is Ukraine 'invading'?

originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

You seriously think fighting is about GDP?
Western nations GDP is made up of mostly pointless service industry like Deliveroo.
Money doesn't make a warrior.
Brian has 4 times the GDp of Russia but could field an army of 70000,think about that.

Well, I don’t know who this Brian is… but I agree, Russia has some impressive numbers.

But in a full blown conflict with a formidable power, do they actually have the capability to keep there soldiers well feed, clothed and payed so that they stay motivated to fight for the cause?

Im not so sure they do.

a reply to: JinMI

The fog of war is in front of you.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: JinMI

The fog of war is in front of you.

How elucidating.


Like how we breath air and drink water.

a reply to: camain

These stakes are high if its real and not a NWO ploy, then a decisive first strike is the only real tactic.

originally posted by: camain
a reply to: camain
as an aside, if NATO took Belarus and Ukraine, and armed the border with Russia, even going south and taking the land along the Black sea, can you imagine China using it as an opportunity to take all of Siberia. Russia would have to defend against NATO and would not be able to counter China, china gets vast land and resources and they get them with the Wests blessing.

You could see Turkey moving through Georgia north, Ukraine pushing Directly East, and NATO supplying Ukraine and clearing the field while China moves North East and North West.

Heck Mongolia might take a shot at it and Move north as well as Kazakstan, there is some nice land they could both us, since both are deserts.

Camain

There already is a food crise in many parts of China. I don't think the soldiers are well fed mostly on the west side of China. Lots of open space there also.

a reply to: anonentity


Sure, sure, russia is gonna 'moonscape' London.




Tell us again how putin isn't insane!







Or that it's 'the west' making nuke threats!

putin is just following the leninist/stalinist global revolution, the peace we've seen between the west and russia since the mid 90's was a ruse to give them time to rebuild their capabilities and retake all the former Soviet republics that regained their independence from the USSR, everyone fell for it believing they wanted peaceful coexistence but forgot who created the concept in the first place, lenin, as a tool to execute the world socialist revolution. its not going to stop in ukraine.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: M5xaz

Launching a nuke at Kyiv, Kiev, that has fallout would be suicide.

Prevaling winds are a thing.

Perhaps Russia will use neutron weapons? Kills people, leaves the infrastructure in tact, with little fallout.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: M5xaz


russia is demanding Ukraine, and Ukraine isn't biden's to give.



Meanwhile, russia *could* remove it's forces from Ukraine today, biden or not.


Are any Ukrainian forces invading russia?

First, Biden/Obama started this with the coup in 2014

Second, this bloodbath could have been avoided if both sides had respected the Monsk accords whihc BOTH sides signed.

Third, escalating the military conflict will only lead to millions of dead. A cease fire should at least be tried.

originally posted by: Doxanoxa
a reply to: M5xaz

Is old nukes is bad nukes?

Back in 1994 the Ukraine agreed to destroy the 1,700 warheads based on their territory when they Soviet Union split up.

Given the Ukrainians had a bear in their back yard maybe a few slipped off the list and didn't quiet get destroyed.

Maybe handing out iodine in Kiev is anticipating retaliation, rather than aggression.

Maybe Ukraine is lining up a false flag to push the West & Rest in action?

Typically, tritium tirggers degrade with time and must be maintained. Not sure a 30 year old trigger would still work

originally posted by: Nickn3

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: M5xaz

Launching a nuke at Kyiv, Kiev, that has fallout would be suicide.

Prevaling winds are a thing.

Perhaps Russia will use neutron weapons? Kills people, leaves the infrastructure in tact, with little fallout.

Honestly, IDK. Attacking Ukraines main city would certainly reduce if not completely destroy any bit of support in Ukraine he may have outside of the Donbass.

Would also readily invite more NATO involvement.

Then again, putins state of mind is in question to a degree.

Regardless, the Rubicon has been crossed. Neither side can fold. All diplomacy undermined by the west.

a reply to: M5xaz


You talking about the impeachment of the guy that stole 70b and fled to russia?



Who exactly didn't respect Ukraine's territorial integrity?

(Minsk Agreement)




I agree.

russia should immediately cease firing and return to russia.

And definitely stop making nuke threats.





Do you think russia would ever stop fighting if a foreign invader occupied large portions of russia?

Why do you think Ukraine would?

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: M5xaz


You talking about the impeachment of the guy that stole 70b and fled to russia?



Who exactly didn't respect Ukraine's territorial integrity?

(Minsk Agreement)




I agree.

russia should immediately cease firing and return to russia.

And definitely stop making nuke threats.





Do you think russia would ever stop fighting if a foreign invader occupied large portions of russia?

Why do you think Ukraine would?

So it's ok for the US the overthrow the democratically elected leader of a foreign country. Got it

The Ukrainian feds broke the 2014 Minsk agreement by relentless shelling of Russian majority areas of Ukraine.2014 to 2022, e,g, 8 years BEFORE the russian invasion.

It's OK, people like you have difficulties with tough concepts like before and after

Even as much a warmonger as Kissinger stated:
“Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome,” he said. “Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante,” he added, apparently referring to a restoration of Ukraine’s borders as they were before the war began in February. “Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself."

But you want to march on into global nuclear holocaust just to protect your fragile ego.
You would rather see millions dead and nuclear war.

Piece of work


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a reply to: M5xaz


"So it's ok for the US the overthrow the democratically elected leader of a foreign country."


No.

I'm still waiting for evidence of that absurd russian propaganda.






"The Ukrainian feds broke the 2014 Minsk agreement by relentless shelling of Russian majority areas of Ukraine.2014 to 2022, e,g, 8 years BEFORE the russian invasion."


russia invaded in 2014 and never left, it's russia who tore up the Minsk Agreement, not Ukraine.






Again, only the putin madman and his supporters are threatening the use of nuclear weapons, everyone else understands how insane that is.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: Vroomfondel


biden invaded Ukraine?


Why make stuff up?

Its not made up...you need to get out more.

This did not start in Feb of 2022. It started in Feb of 2021 when Ukraine, at the urging of biden through the US consulate in Ukraine, turned off the opposition party tv stations. They went further and seized the assets of opposition party leader viktor medvedchuk, close friend of putin. In fact, putin Christened his daughter, Daria. The assets seized included a pipeline that carried Russian oil to Europe. Within 48 hours of those events Russia started massing troops on the Ukraine border. But they did not invade. They offered diplomatic resolutions but none were offered in return. Russia waited a full year before actually crossing the border into Ukraine. As soon as medvedchuk was arrested putin identified the ploy as a proxy war with the west. He was not wrong.

Under bidens influence, Ukraine was led to believe that the US would have their back. Instead the US stood by and let Ukraine take it full in the face. Then biden slowly started sending aid in the form of weapons, many of which were promptly sold.

You also have to remember that biden is just obama 2.0. obama was a major factor in the 2014 invasion. obama took a hard line on Russia but by 2018 Russia had formed the opposition party in Ukraine and came in a close second in the following election. Millions of people voted for their party. Ukraine elected zelensky, an actor and comedian, who played a fictional President on a sitcom. When covid hit putin and medvedchuk brokered a deal to get millions of vax doses to Ukraine and allow them to manufacture it for free but it was declined. When no vax doses from the US came in and the death toll was rising, faith in the comedian President faltered and the opposition party grew stronger. Then biden was sworn in and emboldened Ukraine to take the steps that led to the invasion because it was starting to look like zelensky wasn't going to last much longer as President.

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a reply to: Vroomfondel


Did biden invade Ukraine?

Why make stuff up?




Russia invaded Ukraine, in 2014.

russia hasn't left yet, and is now trying take even more of Ukraine.