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originally posted by: CloneFarm1000
Coined by Carl Jung, the concept of the collective unconscious helps to explain why similar themes occur in mythologies and religions around the world.
It is an October morning in the ancient city of Babylon. From atop a towering ziggurat, a priest beholds an important sign over on the eastern horizon! The constellation of Scorpio briefly rises before slowly fading beneath the advancing dawn.
TO THE superstitious Babylonians, this was most significant. Their stargazers had long noted that the stars of a certain constellation seemed to resemble a scorpion with a large curling tail. It was thus named girtab, or Scorpio. They imagined that this group of stars actually had the characteristics of a scorpion. As the scorpion is a nocturnal creature, Scorpio seemed a fitting symbol of darkness. Its brief appearance at dawn every October signaled the approach of winter.
In his book The Truth About Astrology, Dr. Michel Gauquelin explains: “They projected the earthly scorpion into the sky, and that, in its turn, was supposed to have an influence on those born under that constellation. This kind of astrological inversion still goes on today. Modern textbooks state that when the Sun moves into Scorpio at the time of birth, it confers on the newborn child some of the characteristics of the scorpion—a dangerous, aggressive and courageous insect [arachnid], with a fearsome sting.”
Is It Scientific?
The sun no longer rises with Scorpio during October. Over the centuries, the earth’s relationship to the constellations has gradually altered. Now during October the sun instead moves into the constellation of Libra (Latin for “scales”), which is said to confer qualities such as charm and ease. Quite different from Scorpio!
While Eastern astrologers have kept up-to-date with these celestial changes, most of their Western colleagues have not. They thus base their predictions on a heavenly scheme that is some 2,000 years old! Regarding this, Drs. H. J. Eysenck and D. K. B. Nias state: “If Western astrologers are right in making any particular interpretation, Eastern astrologers are wrong, and vice versa. Yet both sides claim to be extremely successful!”
This alone sheds much doubt on the reliability of astrology. In addition, one psychologist examined the marriage and divorce records of 3,456 couples. Did the compatibility of their astrological signs have any bearing upon the success or failure of their marriages? According to Science 84 magazine: “Incompatible signs got married—and divorced—as often as the compatible ones.”
Astrologers counter by saying that the sun sign, on its own, is of little significance and must be considered together with planetary influences. But this also creates problems because the Babylonians believed in the influence of only five planetary gods—Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The telescope, however, has revealed three more—Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. This has caused confusion among astrologers. “Some astrologers,” writes Louis MacNeice in his book Astrology, “made these an excuse for the inaccuracies of their predecessors; but others . . . argued that these new planets could not influence human beings because they could not be seen with the naked eye.” Most Eastern astrologers therefore ignore the distant planets. Western astrologers, though, attach great significance to them.
The time selected as the basis for a horoscope also raises questions. Most astrologers use the moment of birth. But the law of genetics says that hereditary traits are passed on to offspring at conception, not at birth. According to the book Astrology: Science or Superstition?, the ancient astrologer Ptolemy “neatly side-stepped this by claiming that birth will be under the same constellation as reigned at the time of conception, although there is in fact no reason at all to suppose that it is.”
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Now, what if the collective unconscious could be hijacked and how could this feat be accomplished?
It seems, those with big tulpas going, like to use humans to become their tulpas recipient.
Not only do we feed into some non local entity but there is more often than not one, or more human recipients.
Yes making your own tulpas gets you in trouble, as it holds a rather big piece to the puzzle of the shared dreamspace, and they'd rather keep it that way.
originally posted by: quintessentone
Coined by Carl Jung, the concept of the collective unconscious helps to explain why similar themes occur in mythologies and religions around the world.
Let's remember world trade by ships/boats was happening at a large scale back then and storytellers, holy men and others mixed and mingled their truths and experiences with others. Is there really any question why similar themes occurred?
originally posted by: DirtWasher
originally posted by: quintessentone
Coined by Carl Jung, the concept of the collective unconscious helps to explain why similar themes occur in mythologies and religions around the world.
Let's remember world trade by ships/boats was happening at a large scale back then and storytellers, holy men and others mixed and mingled their truths and experiences with others. Is there really any question why similar themes occurred?
There are ancient cultures so small, land-locked, and remote as to not have any outside influence from sea faring ancient civilizations, and yet their mythologies have similar structure and symbology.
I think a lot of people misunderstand the purpose of "myth" as a means of explaining the natural world. Myths are the collective symbols of dreams of a culture. The priests and shamans are gifted enough with insight into the dreams of the society to interpret as stories that speak to the spirit, or collective subconscious rather, and even have the ability to corelate such symbols to the cosmos as in the zodiac.
originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: CloneFarm1000
great post!
I'm a firm believer that we create our own reality through (collective) thoughts,
and been wondering for a couple of years if humanity is being manipulated into creating a repeating collective thought form. Looking at current events from this perspective, all the propaganda, fear mongering and repetitive media messages make perfect sense. We could be 'instructed' on what to think for years and no one even noticed...
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... Some of them believe in astrology or spiritism, and many use the horoscope to inquire about the future. Others turn to sorcerers, or kolduns, as they are known in Russian. Some of these people seek contact with the dead in hopes of finding relief from sickness or just for fun.
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“White Magic Is Good”
Pjotr *, a distant relative, had an accident while working in a coal mine and suffered head injuries that required treatment in a special clinic. Concerned about his health, he consulted a koldun. The sorcerer put Pjotr in touch with the spirit world. Although his wife and my parents told him that sorcery was foolish, he felt that he knew better. “What I practice is white magic,” he asserted. “Black magic is wicked, but white magic is good.”
Pjotr claimed to have powers that enabled him to foretell the future and protect people from harm. Nonetheless, Pjotr’s wife left him. Hence, Pjotr would come to stay with us, sometimes for weeks at a time. His influence on the family was terrible. At any rate, Mother and Father started to have serious arguments. Eventually, they separated and divorced. We children moved into another apartment with Mother, and Pjotr—her blood relative—moved in with us.
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“Your Dear Mother Is Dead”
When I returned from Gorlovka, the apartment was locked, and a notice from the police forbidding entrance hung on the door. A shiver went down my spine. I went to our neighbors. Olga was too upset to talk. Her husband, Vladimir, said kindly: “Tanja, something dreadful has happened. Your dear mother is dead. Pjotr killed her. Afterward, he came to our apartment, telephoned the police, and turned himself in.”
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... Father moved into the apartment with me, and Lubov returned from Uganda and stayed with us for a short while. At times, we had reason to feel that wicked spirit forces were harassing us. Additionally, Father had awful dreams. He felt that he was to blame for Mother’s death. “If only I had stayed with her,” he would say, “she would still be alive.” Before long, Father fell into a deep depression. Within four months of Mother’s death, he committed suicide.
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Pjotr explained that a voice had told him to kill my mom, and he went on to describe in detail what had happened on that day. As I listened to his horrible story, my disgust was mixed with pity, for he seemed nervous, like a hunted animal. ...