"Cremation of Care" ritual at Bohemian Grove

Personally, I think this ritual is to clear the consciousness of the people running the global conspiracy and the burn away their sins and guilt to the fire of the owl.

Moloch or Molech is the deity to which the 45ft stone owl beside the lake at Bohemian Grove is symbolic of . Moloch is very old and it has been discovered that the people of Babylon and before it used to burn their children in the belly of an effigy symbolic of Moloch to forgive them of their sins they have done. Moloch is mentioned countless times in the Bible, New Testement and other biblical texts, also.

Alot, the things said during the ritual are stuff like "cast away your guilt into the fire".

I have no doubt this ritual is to forgive or to take away the guilt of the many people that are running this agenda on a daily basis becuase many are doing it against their wish in fear of their family, assasination or a scandal against them since to get into these high positions, you have to go through alot of really odd stuff like having anal sex with a man inside a coffin, ect. This is done to ensure you never speak up. Sex is the ultimate control and thats why so many secret societies require the initiate to do it.

I have writted alot of stuff on Moloch that you can view HERE.

Also, the video that was aired in the UK many years ago of Alex Jone's succesfull infiltration of the Grove and his footage of the full "Cremation of Care" ritual can be seen HERE.

If you dont want to download half a gig to see the ritual then download THIS.

yep, theyre making sure that the leaders loose all empathy for their victims before they start their mandates.
It makes giving orders that murder thousands of people even possible, without these kind of brain washing no sane person in the world could do it becouse we are all born with a concious mind.

But if you want power, you simply can not make concious decisions like that, so conciousness is an unwanted commodity. That is also the reason theyre all sedated beyond beleif. Check Rumsfield for instance, the guy is a complete junkie, Arnold is still high on steroids...and you want to know who is one of the providers? Ill give you a hint....watch the documentary titled "spin"

...ill help you some more...

illegal-art.org...


yep, theyre all sick beyond beleif



[edit on 5-4-2005 by nukunuku]

Ha ha ha, are you talking about Rumsfeld being addicted to Aspartame or who is it that drinks Diet Coke 9 am in the morning?

I think the name says it all, as you guys have already nailed it.

They are incinerating any part of themselves that CARES...

The part of dialogue right before the effigy is engulfed and everyone cheers (or drowning their sorrows?) is SO creepy, as is the scream playing over the loud speakers. Just encouraging people to cheer, I guess?

That was the way back in the day, dance crazy and yell so you don't hear the person in the middle of the bonfire screaming.... Sets up a nice trance.

Originally posted by nukunuku
But if you want power, you simply can not make concious decisions like that, so conciousness is an unwanted commodity. That is also the reason theyre all sedated beyond beleif. Check Rumsfield for instance, the guy is a complete junkie, Arnold is still high on steroids...and you want to know who is one of the providers? Ill give you a hint....watch the documentary titled "spin"

...ill help you some more...

illegal-art.org...

yep, theyre all sick beyond beleif

A must see documentary. Everybody who watches TV will stop to believe half of the junk that news networks are selling. Politicians on drug cocktails and advisors that are corrupt, manipulative and without any schread of concience.

Originally posted by Driver
Moloch or Molech is the deity to which the 45ft stone owl beside the lake at Bohemian Grove is symbolic of .

Doubtful in my opinion, but see this thread.

Moloch is very old and it has been discovered that the people of Babylon and before it used to burn their children in the belly of an effigy symbolic of Moloch to forgive them of their sins they have done.

What? What documentation supports this?

Moloch is mentioned countless times in the Bible, New Testement and other biblical texts, also.

Yes, the only real source for the ammonite israeli tribe's fire god Moloch is the bible.

Alot, the things said during the ritual are stuff like "cast away your guilt into the fire".

What chapter and verse state this?

yanchek
Politicians on drug cocktails and advisors that are corrupt, manipulative and without any schread of concience.

What politicians are actually shown as being there? The only parts of the thing that i have seen have been large faceless crowds?

here are some national geographic photos of some of the BC mock funerals.

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Here is a website with BC photos from University at Berkely. And another.

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This is author Jack London

Here is an interesting story:
In his Memoirs, Warren tells of his effort to persuade Norman Chandler, the publisher of The Los Angeles Times. Chandler wanted his paper to take a strong stand against the faculty. He sat with Chandler during the summer encampment at the Bohemian Grove and persuaded him that the faculty opposition to the oath was not because the faculty wanted to protect radicals and Communists, but that it was a matter of protecting their constitutional rights and the principle of academic freedom. Warren appealed to Chandler's own insistence on freedom of the press. He wrote in his Memoirs the following about the conversation:

Elsewhere is noted..

Oliver Collection

The Oliver Collection consists of approximately 2,700 glass plate negatives and photographic prints taken mainly by amateur photographer William Letts Oliver and his son Roland Letts Oliver. The photographs date from ca. 1860 to ca. 1910. Subjects include maritime and yachting scenes, views of California and San Francisco Bay area, University of California at Berkeley, mining and the explosives industry, logging, the Bohemian Grove, and the Oliver family. Also of note are photographs of Chile and Peru from 1860 to 1867.

I was able to find a list of his stuff here. There are lots of bohemian photos.


[edit on 14-4-2005 by Nygdan]

Originally posted by Driver
Personally, I think this ritual is to clear the consciousness of the people running the global conspiracy and the burn away their sins and guilt to the fire of the owl.

Moloch or Molech is the deity to which the 45ft stone owl beside the lake at Bohemian Grove is symbolic of . Moloch is very old and it has been discovered that the people of Babylon and before it used to burn their children in the belly of an effigy symbolic of Moloch to forgive them of their sins they have done. Moloch is mentioned countless times in the Bible, New Testement and other biblical texts, also.

Alot, the things said during the ritual are stuff like "cast away your guilt into the fire".

I have no doubt this ritual is to forgive or to take away the guilt of the many people that are running this agenda on a daily basis becuase many are doing it against their wish in fear of their family, assasination or a scandal against them since to get into these high positions, you have to go through alot of really odd stuff like having anal sex with a man inside a coffin, ect. This is done to ensure you never speak up. Sex is the ultimate control and thats why so many secret societies require the initiate to do it.

Once again you have shown that what you post is pure DRIVEL. You KEEP making UNSUPPORTED statements and claims, without the least shred of evidence to back it up. All of your supposed "research" is based on circumstance and heresay, no hard fact, nothing conclusive. I hope you're proud of yourself for being the worst kind of troll.


[edit on 14-4-2005 by sebatwerk]

here is the above artists stuff specifically for BC

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Does this statute make them good guys? I mean, if a bird statue makes em bad guys, does the buddha idol make 'em good guys?

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AHA! So it all comes back to the French!

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Or is it the Japanese?


Seeing these makes me think, is it possible that the 'owl statue' was a one time event? That every once in a while they do something different?

Has anyone been back there since Jone's infiltration?

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Nevermind, old scratch himself is a member. Or could it be, *gasp* not satan, but a satyr? Could the people there be somewhat educated and interested in classical themes?

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This says its a guy in drag, for a 'fete d'nuit, jardin de calypso', which reinforces my suspiscion that they do different 'themes' at different outings, this is a night party, calypso garden.

Are they buggering each other, who knows. Does seem to be anythin to support it. Also, this pic, its probably taken in the day time before the festivities.

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This is great, these guys look like they put a good effort into it and have some fun!

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Now, ya can't honestly say that thats a representation of moloch.

Originally posted by Nygdan
[Seeing these makes me think, is it possible that the 'owl statue' was a one time event? That every once in a while they do something different?

Could the people there be somewhat educated and interested in classical themes?

I think I have to agree with you. They probably have different themes for the festivities every year, and they are obviously classical themes. Again, the simplest explanation is the most likely.

Sebatwerk, I agree with his [Driver's] assesment, and I think the God you pray to, is the wrong one. I think your post is DRIVEL.

[edited to remove quote - nygdan]

[edit on 15-4-2005 by Nygdan]

It definately looks like the "Gay 90's"me!!!

i think the fact that they mention babylon in the ritual about 10 times or more speaks for itself.

Also, the whole world, except the ATS masons, knows the grove is where the rich and powerfull gather, there are photos that prove that. Of course, i am expected to belive, they are only there for the sandwiches and small talk.....

...or that it is just a big joke....

Sabatwerk, you should do your homework before you start spitting, its already been blown wide open

I think the boss would like to see you now

Where has it been demonstrated that they are there for more than high jinks, camping and drinking?

Originally posted by Nygdan
Where has it been demonstrated that they are there for more than high jinks, camping and drinking?

im sorry, the stinch of world leaders running naked around the woods, performing pagan rituals and dividing the world so it suits THEM does not go well with my idea of leadership.

I am not sure if you will manage to convince anyone that they do this with good intentions. Have you watched the ritual ?

How exactly will you convince me its not evil...it friggin looks like a satanic black mass! How will you convince me these are not mentally disturbed individuals that need professional help? Listen to what theyre saying!
Look at the games theyre playing! Mock children sacriifice, hiding under robes? This is what...A PRANK? A RETARDS PRANK!

I am not even a christian, if i were, and i was living in USA i would go completely berserk knowing that this is the kind of thing really goes on behind the curtains!

How can you compare budhism to cremation of care??????????????????
Did one budhist ever shown blatant disregard for human life? EVER?
Will you try to convince us that cremating your care for nature and others is actually a good thing?

HIGH JINX? Are you mental?

Nice pics btw, dont forget to post the original flyer for the event, the picture of Reagan and others in the grove, and the statement of US presidents advisor for the newspaper in 70s (i think) in which he claims he doesnt like to run around naked in the woods like the rest of them. Boy did they spank his monkey butt when it hit the papers


[edit on 15-4-2005 by nukunuku]

Originally posted by nukunuku
Also, the whole world, except the ATS masons, knows the grove is ...

The 'whole world' huh? Care to back that up with anything? Websites? Quotes from books? Anything will do actually.

Originally posted by Trinityman

Originally posted by nukunuku
Also, the whole world, except the ATS masons, knows the grove is ...

The 'whole world' huh? Care to back that up with anything? Websites? Quotes from books? Anything will do actually.

No i dont care.....perhaps you missed the links that Driver posted? That should get you started....you lazy boy you

I concur with Nygdan on this topic.

The owl is far more likely to be the representation of Athenas owl. I was unaware that there were other religions and "themes" going on at BC but it would explain a lot.


I am perplexed by one thing alone, why has Alex Jones --or anyone else-- never returned?

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Sebatwerk, I agree with his [Driver's] assesment, and I think the God you pray to, is the wrong one. I think your post is DRIVEL.

It's easy to be ignorant, isn't it?

Originally posted by nukunuku
Sabatwerk, you should do your homework before you start spitting, its already been blown wide open

I think the boss would like to see you now

And you should get some conclusive evidence before you claim someting as being fact.

And by the way, I am the boss. But nice try.

Originally posted by nukunuku

I am not sure if you will manage to convince anyone that they do this with good intentions. Have you watched the ritual ?

I saw the video

How exactly will you convince me its not evil...it friggin looks like a satanic black mass!

As someone who has actually seen an honest to god (So to speak ) Satanic Black Mass... That looked like nothing of the sort. Not even a naked lady alter in site!

Originally posted by sebatwerk

Originally posted by nukunuku
Sabatwerk, you should do your homework before you start spitting, its already been blown wide open

I think the boss would like to see you now

And you should get some conclusive evidence before you claim someting as being fact.

And by the way, I am the boss. But nice try.

Yeah, youre the boss, but you are certainly not THE BOSS....

and evidence is right there, you fail to see it.....youre looking at it, but you obviously dont want to see it....

DENY DENY DENY !

suit yourself, you must have your own reasons for it