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What is Really Going on with Russia

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posted on Sep, 27 2022 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: cappie

Even CNN > ? DAMN !



posted on Sep, 27 2022 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: Overseeall

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: carewemust


Russia and the U.S. CAN BE Best Buds in the Next 10 Years IF they Chose to . All it Will take is Outright Honesty in Negotiations Concerning Economics and Military Cooperation Between these Two MOST Powerful Nations On Earth IMO .


Wont happen when there is competing interests. Both nations want to dominate/expand their sphere of influence.



Keeping up with the Russians
The world is nothing but a popularity contest like back is high school but it never ends there. The Grays: Humans are such a competitive species and it will be their downfall! πŸ‘½πŸ’₯
edit on 27-9-2022 by DoomsdayDude because: πŸ›ΈπŸ›ΈπŸ›Έ



posted on Sep, 27 2022 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: DoomsdayDude

Khosta 2: Hold my Stoli.



posted on Sep, 27 2022 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

If the Russia/Ukrainian Conflict were to be Compared to a Tennis Match , Who Outlasts Who here in Your Humble Opinion Sir Considering Logistics of Men and Supply > ? .........
edit on 27-9-2022 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 28 2022 @ 12:36 AM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

I really think all that Putin wants, are the breakaway regions under the umbrella of the Russian Federation no more no less. They will be stable members of the Russian state. Trying to suggest that he wants more might be good propaganda. But logistically dangerous. You don't eat more than you can digest. Ukraine would have sued for peace with the inevitable same outcome because without prolonging the agony with western help it would have all been over by now. Putin has called out NATO which is the USA, if they are wise they will switch focus to Iran the western population hasn't the will to get into a war the morale is too low. But having said that they could be beaten into it, by blaming Russia for all the hard times. Most of idiots will believe it. The USA does not want Europe relying on Russian energy, They don't want Europe to have a normalized relationship with Russia. Because it would require a complete change of governments to individuals who are free of leverage. So if the war could be kept in Europe America would fight it. But Putin and China will go for the American homeland they probably both have had enough. It depends on who is pulling the strings, they will be putting their intergenerational wealth on the line along with their lives. Their decision will be what they are told by their advisors, which will be what they want to hear, so I am not optimistic. As a war economy is the only real way out of the financial mess.



posted on Sep, 28 2022 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: cappie
a reply to: JAGStorm

a new law in russia made it a crime to falsely report on military activities....
so,....
WESTERN NEWS, rather than have to REPORT THE TRUTH...
packed up and LEFT RUSSIA

cannot have cnn russia reporting something totally different
than reported in united states, now can they??



They didn't make false reporting illegal, they made saying anything except the official russian propaganda a crime.


There is no defense for proving what you said was true.



posted on Sep, 28 2022 @ 01:06 AM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Ukraine Will Lose 20 Percent of it's Territory to Russia . That is just a Fact of Life even if they Continue to Fight .




According to russia?



posted on Sep, 28 2022 @ 01:07 AM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: BigfootNZ


The Russia Republic Holds All the High Cards here . They Could Squeeze Western Europe Until they Freeze to Death from Their Obvious Weaknesses of Self Sufficient Energy Sources , and along with their Insufficient Imports from Friendly Nations within their Borders for this Predicted " Harsh Winter or 2023 " , and They Will Finally Relent to the Inevitable and Give Ukraine as Tribute . Do I Project Too Much there > ?




Not anymore



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: MidnightWatcher

" Not anymore "


Oh Really ? Ok , Please Explain in Detail how you Personally Came to that Conclusion considering you Offer No SOURCES to Back Up such a LAME CLAIM . I'll Wait............



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

" Not anymore "


Oh Really ? Ok , Please Explain in Detail how you Personally Came to that Conclusion considering you Offer No SOURCES to Back Up such a LAME CLAIM . I'll Wait............



Russia no longer has a pipeline capable of providing gas to Europe.

Need a source for that?

What cards is russia holding exactly?



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: cappie

Even CNN > ? DAMN !



Don't worry, you still get tucker rebroadcasted with russian commentary.



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm
BUT then, what if this is a big disinformation campaign and Russians actually want to fight and this is one way to catch everyone off guard.
This kind of trickery has been used before.


I think that is exactly what this is, it sounds all too westcentric to me.

We're talking about a world superpower here that doesn't have many urban elves in their population.

You can see right through the attempts to make Russia look weak, I'm not buying it because it's best never to underestimate anyone.

USA is not directly involved in this conflict and a massive amount of the aid provided will likely be cut off after Republicans assume control of the lower house in the Nov elections, that's when I believe things will get really interesting.

edit on 29-9-2022 by iamthevirus because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus


Republicans aren't supporting the defense of Ukraine?

Why make stuff up?





Russia needed no assistance in 'making itself look weak', russia did that all by themselves.

All we did is pull back the curtain a little.

Perhaps we should pull it back a little more?



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: iamthevirus

Republicans aren't supporting the defense of Ukraine?

Why make stuff up?

Russia needed no assistance in 'making itself look weak', russia did that all by themselves.

All we did is pull back the curtain a little.

Perhaps we should pull it back a little more?


I believe the Republicans are quite neutral... but the Democrats have involved us in this conflict with their business dealings and regime tampering in the Ukraine which predates at least 2008.

The Democrats and their MSM cohorts have been pushing this russia russia russia narrative for a hard 6 years to prime the Americans for this very conflict.

Russia will make no drastic moves or measures while the Democrats have control of the national purse.

It will get interesting soon...

Republicans don't like war, it is a last resort always.

edit on 29-9-2022 by iamthevirus because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: iamthevirus


I'm a Republican.

Do you think I don't support helping Ukraine defend itself from invasion?





It is 'last resort' now, russia already invaded Ukraine.

While democrats had complete control of the country.

What was it you were saying again?





posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: MidnightWatcher

The EU and their billionaire global elite can handle weak ole Russia wouldn't you say?

Or is it the EU that is weak and only projecting the illusion of power with the backing of the US?

We shall see I'm guessing...

Besides we have bigger fish to fry and our house is in need of repairs.



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

The EU and their billionaire global elite can handle weak ole Russia wouldn't you say?

Or is it the EU that is weak and only projecting the illusion of power with the backing of the US?

We shall see I'm guessing...

Besides we have bigger fish to fry and our house is in need of repairs.





Many in the EU have made a long string of poor election choices and need our assistance right now.

The EU is FAR from 'weak', even with all the damage russia intentionally caused, even AFTER their long string of poor election choices.

But we are even stronger together.



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Republicans likely won't allow Russia to expand beyond Ukraine if it comes to that but I do not believe personally that is Russias ambitions as the narrative goes.



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Republicans likely won't allow Russia to expand beyond Ukraine if it comes to that but I do not believe personally that is Russias ambitions as the narrative goes.



So subtly repeating your absurd claim that Republicans don't want to help Ukraine defend itself?

I am a Republican, do you think I don't support the defense of Ukraine?



posted on Sep, 29 2022 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: [post=26700046]MidnightWatcher]

But we are even stronger together.



We are not together and we don't want to be, the EU needs to do EU and we will do us.

Republicans are not into Socialist corrupt Democracies who belong to the upper elite. We have very different worldviews.

We are an independent individual Constitutional Republic and it is not our fault Europe decided to divide everyone along racial and ethnic lines when drawing the new borders after WW2.

They should have followed our lead but they did the same bullcrap that spawned 2 world wars instead.

The EU represents NWO/Globalism and we're just not into it.

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