What is Really Going on with Russia

a reply to: dollukka

Yeeh i was thinking the same, and in Crimea they seem to get tatars mobilized .

Dagestan is also quite rough, they have muslim people there also and someone allready claimed that the mobilization is against Allah .

The scary thing about Russia is, they have massive internal security forces in there , not just police but armored vehicles, army stuff ...

Since the start of the war against Ukraine, 54 army recruitment centers and government offices have been set on fire in Russia.

originally posted by: Kenzo

Since the start of the war against Ukraine, 54 army recruitment centers and government offices have been set on fire in Russia.

Far less since the announcement of mobilisation.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It also occurs to me that all these Russian guys "fleeing the draft" could have a subset of special forces operatives mixed in, to soften NATO before a military strike. Hopefully they are vetting every soul that is setting foot in Europe coming in from Russia.

a reply to: openminded2011

Why, and whaaat?!!!

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: JAGStorm

Can't trust ANYTHING being reported on this....from either side.

Yes, it is sort of like two Bagdad Bobs Facing off.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
On a lot of social media I’ve seen big backlash with people not wanting to fight in Russia.
They are being drafted. There are some clips with protests and people being carried away.
There are also some clips of Russia recruiting inmates.

On the surface it would seem they are desperate and things aren’t going well.

BUT then, what if this is a big disinformation campaign and Russians actually want to fight and this is one way to catch everyone off guard.
This kind of trickery has been used before.

Or is that not possible with the way things can be filmed and shared these days.
Or is this entire generation of youth just different and they REALLY don’t want war?

Hmm, not sure what’s really going on but if history were to repeat itself here, which it appears may be the case, Russia may not be done yet.

From Wiki but I’m sure there are much better sources. Being lazy.

en.wikipedia.org...


“Poland 1939
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When World War 2 began with the German invasion of Poland, Stalin instituted a rapid forced expansion of the Red Army, which resulted in even more poorly trained and inexperienced officers being placed in commanding positions they were not ready for.[citation needed]

Winter War
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The Great Purges had a significant impact on Soviet ability to set and achieve operational objectives during the war in Finland.[1] Shortfalls in terrain analysis, intelligence on Finnish disposition, equipment, and personnel plagued early Soviet attempts at deep battle.[2] By December 1939 Soviet advances began to stall out and despite initial success with doctrinal mass and penetration across a broad front.[3] A lack of dedicated mechanized exploitation forces allowed the Finnish army to stem and repel Soviet advances with counterattacks on Soviet flanks.[3] Tactically, the Soviets lacked cohesive combined arms maneuver and tanks were regularly committed without infantry support.[1] Soviet success was achieved ultimately through a strategy of attrition, using a significantly larger resource base to wear away at the Finnish army.[1]“

a reply to: JAGStorm

" Ukrainian Territories To Be Absorbed Into Russia By Week’s End: Lawmaker "

" With four occupied regions of Ukraine currently in the midst of a five-day referendum on whether to join the Russian federation, a Kremlin lawmaker told state media over the weekend that the territories are likely to be absorbed by Russia on September 30.

“Taking into account the preliminary results of the referendums and Russia’s readiness to acknowledge them, the accession of the territories is likely to take place as early as on September 30,” the unnamed member of Russia’s State Duma said to TASS.

Voting is set to conclude Tuesday in Donestk, Luhansk and the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, meaning as early as Wednesday or even Thursday announcements of results are likely to trickle out, paving the way for a potential Friday official declaration.

While Russian forces do not yet control the entirety of each of these territories, their annexation would constitute Ukraine losing almost 20% of its geographic territory.

Given that on Saturday Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov vowed new territories would be under Russia’s “full protection” – there is more than likely to be a major uptick in the intensity of fighting to follow the referenda results announcement in eastern Ukraine.

Meanwhile, much has been made of both Putin’s and top national security official Dmitry Medvedev’s nuclear rhetoric of the past days. What’s being largely overlooked in Western media headlines are the Friday statements from Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, who stressed that Moscow’s nuclear doctrine hasn’t changed.

“We are not threatening anyone with nuclear weapons,” Ryabkov said. “The criteria for their use are outlined in Russia’s military doctrine.” He said that their use can only be contemplated if Russia is facing an “existential threat” and is forced to defend itself on that basis of a direct attack on its soil. "



That Pretty much says it all concerning the Russia/Ukraine Conflict as of Now . Ukraine has No Choice but to Comply .


www.infowars.com...

Seems the Deputy Mufti of the Crimean Muftiat has told Crimean Muslims to surrender if made to fight, and if they cant to basically turn their guns on those making them fight.

Reddit

putlers mobilizing alright... just not how he expected. Is nice to see the larger whole of humanity standing up together for the most part from all of this.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Oh, those totally not sham referendums?

Get a grip.

Infowars?

Are you having a laugh?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Oh, those totally not sham referendums?

Get a grip.

Not sure how anyone can claim they arent, if you have ruZZian officals coming out and saying only 15% of a region came out to vote... (and you have to remember how many fled at the start of the war or have been killed). Thing is its exactly the same as it was back in 2014... yet they still site all that as legit.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It's REAL NEWS Old Man . Get back to your Denile Cruise because Sheet Happens in this World Regardless of your Opinions.......

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Spelling not your forte at this time of night?

Goodnight, old chap.

a reply to: BigfootNZ

The Old Soviet Union Invented the " Buffer State " , It Served them Well these Past 70 Years . Now the New Russian Federation is Following Suit with that Strategy Because it knows no Other Yet .

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Spelling not your forte at this time of night?

Goodnight, old chap.

I got A's in English Comprehension in School Old Man , I Know Sheet Good ! .............*)

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

It's not showing.....

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

It's not showing.....

Ok , I'll Bite . So , in Your Own Personal Opinion , and for the ATS Forum Archives , What is REALLY Going On in Russia Today Oldcattyfishdeux > ?

putin is trying to avoid the expense of creating a veritable
Iron Dome to protect Russia from a NATO attack with tactical warheads...


he cannot just protect the Europe side of Russia & leave both Siberia and the Asia parts of Russia indefensible....
Vlad is perplexed

originally posted by: St Udio
putin is trying to avoid the expense of creating a veritable
Iron Dome to protect Russia from a NATO attack with tactical warheads...


he cannot just protect the Europe side of Russia & leave both Siberia and the Asia parts of Russia indefensible....
Vlad is perplexed

For starters, because NATO has no interest in attacking russia.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit


"Ukraine has No Choice but to Comply"


Since when did Ukraine ever show any interest in complying with absurd russian demands for it's territory?