Blood clot risk remained nearly a year after COVID-19 infection

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: thethinkingman
In 2020 in the uk 66'715 died from covid. In 2021 in the uk, 63'263 people died from covid, a whopping 3000 reduction in people dying...... easily attributed to the fact a massive portion of the population would have already been infected and are immune. Omg thats worth literal BILLIONS.

Although world wide figures, 1.9 million people died in 2020 and in 2021, 3.6 million people died....thats nearly DOUBLE the amount.

These figures are 0.02% of the world population dying in 2020 and 0.04% dying in 2021.

Herp derp somehow thinks thats lower....cause herp derp doesnt know the difference between 2 and 4.

you can also look at the rate of death in the uk and look that there is a constant level between 100 to 250 deaths per day from mid 2021 to now, where as you can look in 2020 and first half of 2021, where there are periods of months where the deaths are under 50 per day down to almost none. So whats the vaccine doing exactly?????? # all?

Trolls bail when you use statistics.

And sensible people mention that for the first half of 2020 the UK had very few covid cases, but by 2021 it was endemic. So what you're actually seeing isn't a like for like comparison. It's a short year of infections vs a full year of infections. Thus the actual number of deaths was lower on a daily basis, not higher. On the grounds that there were fewer days.

originally posted by: thethinkingman
herp derps think a computer analyses hundreds of thousands of reports to see if something is wrong.........

What.....?????? Yeah they keep the records on a computer.....BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT and its impossible they could thoroughly examine HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF REPORTS ....they couldnt even just glance over them that quickly.

Hundreds of thousands of reports = ah nothing is wrong. ooooooook.

Literal thought processing levels of a zombie. I suggest going back to chewing on your pillow.

1% of the entire world population is around 90 million, around 6 million people have died so far since the pandemic started, do the #ing maths.
Oh wait, thats a touch too far. Just keep saying random stuff instead. there there.

You obviously have no idea how the MHRA work do you...
But you just want to be insulting as usual, have you ever had anything to do with the MHRA, do you know how it works? You like to make yourself feel important don't you? I think you may feel inadequate in some way?

I posted how the MHRA works, if you do'nt understand that or want to understand, then thats down to you.


a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Trolls bail when you use statistics.

You should know a lot about that......


MHRA

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For some perspective in the uk in 2020 people aged 0 to 59, 4727 people died from covid....thats 0.006% of the population.

(this is the number i wrote down in 2020 however 10'000 deaths have been removed from 2020 numbers and 10'000 from 2021 numbers since then.)

age 10 -19 - 34 people died.
age 20 -29 - 110 people died.
age 30 -39 - 314 people died.

OR in other words, they died within 28 days of a positive test.

But lets tell them to take 50 billion genetically modified chimpanzee adeno viruses to the blood stream or another untested modified mrna drug with trillions of mrna's per dose.

a reply to: thethinkingman

Yeah, you wrote it down but the numbers been changed, sure.........

The UK reached 50,000 deaths on 23 May, just short of two months after the country’s first national lockdown. It took a further six months for the UK Covid-19 death toll to pass 75,000 on 26 November but less than a month and half for the death toll to reach 100,000 on 7 January.

link

This is from january 2021. They're saying its 75000 in november and at the time i wrote down the actual figures from ONS which was recorded at 76,443 on december 31st.

now. go here death figures.

Then look at deaths and go on died within 28 days of a positive test, the first table, click total next to daily then hover your mouse over 31st december 2020 and you'll see it says 66'756 deaths (this has even changed since i last looked). Derpppppppp

Even compare the NOVEMBER 2020, 75'000 PEOPLE DIED in that article from 2021, how could 75'000 people have died if its saying 66'000 people died in december....HERP DERPPPPPPPPPP.

You guys dont even look at any of the stats at all. You's have no idea what you're saying.

There was no discernable optimal vaccine effectiveness to prevent infections among the third dose ≥ 18 years of age population since December 20, 2021 during the initial part of the Omicron variant surge in the UK. The increased SARS CoV2 cases in the vaccinated population (including the third dose) among over 18 years of age during the Omicron variant surge were associated with significant proportion of hospitalizations and deaths;

whereas the decreasing cases in the unvaccinated population were associated with decreased proportion of hospitalizations and deaths. Our data analysis identified heterogenous vaccinated (third dose, received two doses without booster) and unvaccinated populations with well-known variables that can increase the risk for hospitalizations and deaths based on ethnicity, deprivation score, and pre-existing conditions.

The vaccine effectiveness for hospitalizations and deaths should be adjusted for these variables by developing validated models to avoid bias. Despite decreasing total number of cases in the UK, there was significantly increased case fatality rate and risk of hospitalizations during the latter part of the Omicron variant surge (February 28-May 1, 2022), as shown in our study. Our study attribute this phenomenon to a significantly increased proportion of cases among ≥ 50 years of age that was associated with a significantly increased risk of hospitalizations and deaths among ≥ 75 years of age.

This underscores the importance of the public health measures directed at uniform screening protocols, and protective measures to prevent infection among elderly vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.

herp derp

a reply to: thethinkingman


Occams razor states...
The simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation.

The article from The Guardian is from Sat, Jan 30th 2021, the Government website was updated regularly...

Last updated on Thursday 22 September 2022 at 4:05pm

You really like to drift off topic??

Protection of natural infection against reinfection wanes and may diminish within a few years. Viral immune evasion accelerates this waning.

Protection against severe reinfection remains very strong, with no evidence for waning, irrespective of variant, for over 14 months after primary infection.

herpy derpy dooo

DERRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPP. Herp derp yeah.....a vaccine can out perform natural infection....said nobodies.

a reply to: Kurokage

err.......what a moron! Just proven yourself to be an utter imbecile hahaha. You said the numbers didnt change......That article is PROVING they said it was over 66'000....and yeah .....its UPDATED because ....LESS PEOPLE DIED, THEY REMOVED THE NUMBERS.

Direct quote from moron " Yeah, you wrote it down but the numbers been changed, sure........."

I directly showed you how they changed and now you're saying its off topic.....legit moron.

omg im dealing with literal morons that dont even know left from right.

Effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 against transmission of Delta was 31% (−3%, 61%) and 42% (14%, 69%) for ChAdOx1, similar to their effectiveness for Alpha.

BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 reduce transmission of the Delta variant from breakthrough infections in the household setting though their protection against infection is low.

herpy derpy doo da daaaayyy

a reply to: thethinkingman

You really are a lacking any civility!


The government numbers are there to see and the article states.....

because of a time lag to allow for all deaths to be registered, it will be some weeks before equivalent data becomes available for January.
omg im dealing with literal morons that dont even know left from right

I just gave an example on why they changed. Better accuracy over time.
You only know your left from your right because your mommy/sister wrote it on your mittens.

Why is this moron still talking. Must just like the smell of their own bullcrap.

We analyse the relation between covid-19 vaccinations and all-cause-mortality in N=340 Dutch municipalities (17.3M people, ~99% of population), during the entire pandemic period. We do not use covid-19-attributed mortality, mortality predictions and excess mortality, thereby bypassing the ambiguities of case-identification and mortality-modeling. Municipal demographics such as age, culture and population density are strong confounders of mortality and vaccine-uptake. We account for these by normalizing results to prepandemic year 2019, where covid was absent but demographics were highly representative for later years. Normalized to 2019, we found no correlation between municipal mortality in 2020 with vaccination uptake in 2021, which shows the effectiveness of our confounder accounting.

We could not observe a mortality-reducing effect of vaccination in Dutch municipalities after vaccination and booster campaigns. We did find a 4-sigma-significant mortality-enhancing effect during the two periods of high unexplained excess mortality.

Our results add to other recent findings of zero mRna-vaccine effectiveness on all-cause mortality, calling for more research on this topic.

hurraaaaayyyy

originally posted by: thethinkingman

Effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 against transmission of Delta was 31% (−3%, 61%) and 42% (14%, 69%) for ChAdOx1, similar to their effectiveness for Alpha.

BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1 reduce transmission of the Delta variant from breakthrough infections in the household setting though their protection against infection is low.

herpy derpy doo da daaaayyy

This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

a reply to: thethinkingman

Why is this moron still talking. Must just like the smell of their own bullcrap.

I should ask you the same question, if anyone's a moron, it's the person posting none peer reviewed articles....

Preprints and early-stage research may not have been peer reviewed yet.

Just like your previous attemps at trying to look smart, it has the opposite effect!

Here's the original publication of the story posted in the OP, with links to the data collected.
Bristol University

The findings suggest that the COVID-19 pandemic may have led to an additional 10,500 cases of heart attacks, strokes and other blood clot complications such as deep vein thrombosis in England and Wales in 2020 alone, although the excess risk to individuals remains small and reduces over time.

The research – involving a large team of researchers led by the Universities of Bristol, Cambridge, and Edinburgh, and Swansea University – shows that people with only mild or moderate disease were also affected. The authors suggest that preventive strategies, such as giving high-risk patients medication to lower blood pressure, could help reduce cases of serious clots.

Researchers studied de-identified electronic health records across the whole population of England and Wales from January to December 2020 to compare the risk of blood clots after COVID-19 with the risk at other times. Data were accessed securely and safely via the NHS Digital Trusted Research Environment for England, and the SAIL Databank for Wales.

In the first week after a COVID-19 diagnosis, people were 21 times more likely to have a heart attack or stroke, conditions which are mainly caused by blood clots blocking arteries. This dropped to 3.9 times more likely after 4 weeks....

The data analysed was collected in 2020, before the mass vaccination rollout in the UK, and before more recent COVID-19 variants such as Delta and Omicron were widespread. The researchers are now studying data beyond 2020 to understand the effect of vaccination and the impact of newer variants.

The research is published in the journal Circulation and was supported by the BHF Data Science Centre at Health Data Research UK, the Longitudinal Health and Wellbeing COVID-19 National Core Study, Data and Connectivity National Core Study and the CONVALESCENCE study of long COVID.

And a link to the published paper.
AHA Journals

We studied vascular diseases after COVID-19 diagnosis in population-wide anonymized linked English and Welsh electronic health records from January 1 to December 7, 2020. We estimated adjusted hazard ratios comparing the incidence of arterial thromboses and venous thromboembolic events (VTEs) after diagnosis of COVID-19 with the incidence in people without a COVID-19 diagnosis. We conducted subgroup analyses by COVID-19 severity, demographic characteristics, and previous history.